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Originally Posted by Real Deal
Hi Greg,
Actually the Mirmidons belong more to the late than to High period ... but I think the Greeks should have an elitish sword unit in High ... I feel they will bring a good aspect in the game though they really tare apart any other unit. So I might brake them to High and Late Mirmidon.
They represent the elitish warrior class that had the money to get armor. In Late period the Greeks have the Promahos unit that is very similar. Bell shaped armor, helmet, arms and keg protection armed with spear, javelin and sword. They formed the first rank of troops (that’s what the name stands for). So the Mirmidons are the elite of these troops ... actually the Mirmidos are described fighting in similar tactics as the Romans not as the other Greek troops.
so they are a bit problematic.
Hey Fella's with Sumerians and Hittite's already mentioned would it be fair to say we are finally gonna see Assyrians as well ? ~:)
Yes ... if I remember they should be mentiond above in the faction list.
"but I think the Greeks should have an elitish sword unit in High "
Yeah, that sounds like a good idea. Some fanciful yet rather "historic" units seem proper to give the factions each their own dose of intriguing units!
Once again, if I could get a hold of a large picture of what the map looks like, I can start doin' some work on the region attributes. I'd rather not have to download anything, but just look at it, as my PC isn't in tip-top shape at the moment!
-Gregory-
Hi Greg,
Get this file where there is an image of the map and the spliting of the areas.
Update, 2 new units, the white dressed guys, Doriforos and Light_foot
http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/BA/ba14.jpg
http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/BA/ba13.jpg
Bronze Age is alive! ~:wave:
This mod looks great! I have been playing HTW for a while now and I love tyhe stuff you guys do. Just one question, when do you think this mod will be ready?
Hi there,
Well by Xmas you might be able to download a first betta of it but RTW is on the way so things will develop depending on the interest of you people.
Now it is back to work for us :whip:
Update, Myrmidons, horned leather cap
http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/BA/ba15.jpg
http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/BA/ba16.jpg
http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/BA/ba17.jpg
Hey, sorry it's been so long since I've been around here. I'll get that map downloaded and try to get as much information poured out as I can within the next couple of weeks, 'Kom!
The new units look Great Flip! I like the Myrmidons!
Lately this is what I've been up to...
www.bronze-warrior.com
Hope you like:D
-Gregory-
Holy Shiznat! Those look totally Awesome, Flip! Kudos on the Chariot cars, and ESPECIALLY on the horse teams! They look coool!
-Gregory-
So hows it coming guys? I've been reading all about bronze age warfare recently especially ancient Near Eastern. Just wondering will any of the following factions be in?
Ancient Egypt
Nubia
Israel
Caananites
Hittites
ASSYRIA!
Moab
Babylon
Sumer
Gidday Cao Cao , I asked the same questions and the answer is yes .. :yes: .. NOW back to HTW .. :charge:
So when is the bronze era mod comming out? Whats the reales date?
What??? The new mod is ready? ~:confused: Can't you guys wait til I finish my exams??? :undecided:
No not yet.
for the moment we have made a series of Greek units that can be used in a BA-HTW mod that will be releashed to get your attenstion and comments. Then we will move to the BA-TW with the big map.
Till now we have almost acomplite set of units for the Greeks (bearly fitting the empty positions in HTW :( and a set of 25 faction that reuse many stuff from the original HTW.
Great work guys !! bring on the new units Komninos they look fantastic .. well done Flip .
Hi HTW fans,
There has been too much silence in these forums lately, especially after the release of the RTW. Though it was as expected I continued to build some stuff it I get it too.
So with the help from flip we managed to built a small test bed for the BATW over HTW. The mod is a small derivative of the BATW and simply named BA-HTW. It starts at 2000BC and ends at ~800 when HTW takes over.
Though still under development it looks very promising.
25 Factions from which 5 eastern, 4 Barbarian and 14 Greek. Greek factions are all the same but I plan on braking them depending on the Tribal background Achaean, Minoan. These were quite different cultures with the Achaeans being more warlike and the Minoans more peaceful traders and seafarers. It can also be an Achaean & Dorian separation between the south more civilized and the North more warlike factions.
Till now we have all the units till high with the exception of Myrmidons that will soon be released from flip. Also the Eastern and Barbarian factions still use the standard HTW units but with new shields.
Yesterday I had a nice big battle with the Trojans that went an expectedly well. I had 2 Dendra chariots, 1 Myrmidon, 3 light loot, 4 archers and 6 Octaspis units while I gave them 2 Heavy chariots, 2 light chariots, 4 spear, 4 sword and 4 archer units. (The Trojans use Hittite units).
I put the Octaspis in a nice line with the Myrmidons on the right covered by light foot and two light foot covering the left flank. Finally the two Dendra were placed far on the flanks. H started with his chariot force all forward then the Archers and then foot units. His chariot force has all missile weapons and plenty of them.
Him moved them in the center and close to my forces where my archers could do a lot of damage. I moved the flanking Dendra forward with out much nose about it and when they came in position charged them on there General now stuck in the middle of it all. His chariot force was in disarray and was cat down to pieces with his General barely making it out of trouble and behind the spear screen.
I withdrew the chariots to the flanks once again and moved in the foot units. My Octaspis had barely engaged his spear units when I moved the chariot force one again in the flanks. I was faced with a massive retreat!!! Suddenly most of his forces fled, I charged them down and cat them to pieces. Some were regaining there will to fight only to block the way to those fleeing and making my work easier. It was Excellent! At the end most of his force ended up captured than dead.
Thats one excellent battle scenario Komninos , I been busy with custom battles on HTW myself .
I look forward to trying out Flips new units as well ..
Has he started on any early Mesopotamian types yet ?
Assyrians !! Babylonians !! Sumerians !! .... yipee ....
Regarding the overall project , as it progresses , I can contribute information if required for both historical and military aspects + pictures of soldiers , images for parchments etc etc ..
cheers ~:cheers: ..to the GEROUSIA
Ps..Hey Kom how about a snapshot of your next test battle to wet our appetites ~:)
Ave honoured Gerousia.
I was wondering will this mod be made for RTW as well?
Gotta put those rediculous yet well done Pharonic Egyptians to some good use!
Hi dimitrios,
Yes it would be helpfull but note just yet since the test bed is on the standard HTW map. We will need a hand full of stuff of Mycinean and Hittite origin though.
Sword of Cao Cao, We will try. I have RTW for two days now. It looks very promising but I have not jet looked in the files since I would like to play it for a bid ... if I start modding it then I simply stop the play I only test the stuff.
Hey Kom',
Sorry I'm gettin' around to those region attributes so late... Tomorrow, hopefully, I'll start gettin' what I can.
What exactly are you wantin' me to record? I've got lists that show which types of materials were traded, where, when each place was controlled by a certain people (to an extent), but this is all mainly around Egypt and Greece... Not much beyond there, though, but I'll hopefully get another atlas soon.
Lemme' know what you're lookin' for!
-Gregory-
Hi Greg,
What I am looking is for each region of the map to have some basic terrain, climate and tradables/minerals.
So Terrain can either be, Mountain, Hilly or Plans (there is also Flat but don’t use it we will use to build a handful of special locations)
Climate can be Lush, Temperate, Arid, Rocky Desert and Sand Desert
We have only three mineral that we can use Gold, Silver, Iron, Salt. We can change them to Gold, Silver, Copper and Iron so we can use copper and Iron to make smiths that will upgrade these. We can also have mines for Salt that we can use as we like.
Finally there are about 20 tradables that we can manipulate and disperse for every region.
Each region need a Terrain type, Climate conditions and up to 3 minerals and 3 tradables and wether it has a river or not. Large rivers must be noted but they will be treated seperatly.
What I need from you is to look in the map and give me a text like this
(from the map but I will put in there order later in the day)
(Mountain, Hilly or Plans)
(Lush, Temperate, Arid, Rocky Desert and Sand Desert)
(Gold, Silver, Iron, Salt)
(I will put in the labels that we can use later in the day)
i.e.
ID_SCOTLAND Hilly Temperate Iron bronze salt Honey Wood fish
...
I will give more later today when I will have all the labels that we can use and some more stuff on how to work this out.
Cheers
Okay, as soon as you get the rest of those details to me, I'll start work as soon as I can. What can the twenty tradables be, exactly? Just the one's listed in the Medieval file, or can their be different ones as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by komninos
-Gregory-
Hi Greg,
The total tradable goods is the sum of the good found in MTW and VI. We can change the labels so if you would like you can rename one but then ive me a list of what is what cause in the file I would prefer to have tha labes so we don't have to see any conflicts! We will have to remake in this case some images but that is nothing very difficalt.
My problem is that every body is turning to RTW but still this will be a fine study so we can pust it if needed to RTW engeen later on.
Hello people....plz continue with the HTW project, I think I speak for many that played/loved the first but like me dont post much.....RTW is different but it is NOT better and a lot will get tired of it soon and like me looking to dl "bronze age".
Build and testing a BA expansion if this version works it will be available for public download soon.
Remember it is a unpolished beta version so not a finished product you still will have gameplay fun though.
LZoF