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Not necessarily. The 'Great Elector' (a Hohenzollern)was essentially the ruler of Brandenburg and joined the nobility of the Prussians(noble leftovers of the Teutonic Knights). All the more reason to research this out more. I do like the idea of factions being royal families as opposed to states. I just wonder how we'll be able to make them join with rebel states(princesses and the like). Electors were still rulers by right. Perhaps we can work this in.
diBorgia
A very brief history of Sweden during our time period. I will expand it as i get more information
Ever since the days of Gustavus Adpholus, Lion of the North, Sweden had been the dominant Baltic power. But with the accession of the young king, Charles XII Poland-Lithunia, Denmark and Russia formed an alliance to exploit Charles inexperience. The campaign opened with large Swedish success. But due to military reforms in Russia and Swedish over extension, Russia led by Peter the Great eventually gained the upper hand. In 1721 Sweden signed a peace treaty giving away most of there Baltic territories to Russia and there allies marking the end of Swedish hegemony. What followed was an age of constitutional monarchy known as the Age of Liberty. Sweden’s king was reduced to a puppet by the Swedish parliament. Sweden gradually disappeared from the global scene.
What i am thinking for economic conditions
Size of market
Port present? size of port
tax rates
maybe new building representing civilian manufacturing?
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Any other ideas?
I just spent time in class mapping out a buildings list which I will pm to you for review. Let me know any other ideas you may have.
diBorgia
I think that's a great idea. But like you said i don't know if we'll be able to script/code in princesses. Diplomacy is hard coded and getting the AI to use this feature at best will be a pain. But it would be a more accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cesare diBorja
Heres what i have for the economic conditons so far
and the actual traitCode:Trigger economy_good
WhenToTest CharacterEndTurn
Condition SettlementBuildingPresent= hinter_land roads
and SettlementBuildingPresent >= fourm
and EndedInSettlement
Affects econemy_good 100
Code:Trait GoodEconemy
Characters family
AntiTraits bad econemy
Level good_econemy
Description good_econemy_desc
Effects description good_econemy_effects_desc
Threshold 1
Affect_trade 10
Affect Tax 10
[QUOTE=Destroyer of Hope]A very brief history of Sweden during our time period. I will expand it as i get more information
Ever since the days of Gustavus Adpholus, Lion of the North, Sweden had been the dominant Baltic power. But with the accession of the young king, Charles XII Poland-Lithunia, Denmark and Russia formed an alliance to exploit Charles inexperience. The campaign opened with large Swedish success.
Poland-Lithuania didn't join the alliance it was a private war of the elector of Saxony who happened to be the king of Poland and Lithuania. Unfortunatelly his private enterprise affected the Republic nonetheless. :book:
Just to explain one detail.
Good luck with the mod, but if you want to do something including 30-years war I can promise very tough competition. Pike and Musket TW 2 ends in 1700 after all :inquisitive:
Regards Cegorach :2thumbsup:
That's why i think we should do a 1701- on campaign.Quote:
Originally Posted by cegorach1
some ideas for traits
Admires the French: This man believes that the french had the right idea about government. +1 influence?
Admires Gustavus Adolphus This man has thoroughly studied the reforms of Gustavus Adolphus. +2 command +1 management
Hi guys,
Been keeping track of EMTW... listen... In between modding ZTW I sometimes have time for other units. Like I did some Crimean War cavalry (11th Hussars and 2nd Dragoons) on a lark. And since I love this period I'd be more than willing to do textures and skins if you can do the models. I would recommend looking at the Sarmatian cavalry with their pith helmet type headgear for grenadiers and Greek archers for your line tricornes.
Just send me the models and I'll get to it.
best wishes,
Clare (Harlechman)
OK, dclare4, I will send them this Sunday morning. Enjoy!
diBorgia
Oops need time to modify these models give me a week.
I have the tricorne/archer modified. Just need to modify the Pith-Sarmation Cavalry
Hi everybody!
I found this forum totally randomly, lurking around the TWC forum.
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WOW! :dizzy2: What a great (wonderful, amazing, take whichever you want :laugh4: ) idea!
Though I have no competences in modding, and too few on scripting, if I may be of some use, I will be really pleased to give you guys a hand!
Keep it up :-)
First off welcome to the org TiFlo
What we could use now is mainly research, but if you can think of anything else your wecome to work on it. I am researching sweden and prussia rght now so any other faction would be great.
Most of my knowledge turns around the British and the French armies from mid-XVIIIth century, especially the Brits.
I'm not sure which era you want, but I can do both countries from the War of Austrian Succession to the Seven Years War, maybe with some work extending it to the era from the War of Spanish Succession to the 1780's (American War of Independance) :inquisitive: .
What info do you want me to get (uniforms, units, regiments, tactics on battlefield, logistic, commanding system, recruiting system, battles, etc...)?
Let me know exactly, it shouldn't take much time to do :book: :laugh4:
P.S.: sorry for the maybe wrong spelling of the wars of succession, but since english is not my 1st language, that it's half past 1 in the morning and I've been up since 6AM, I am just too lazy to get into my books to check :laugh4:
I am reseaching or have researched Prussian, Austrian, Russian, Polish, Saxon, Hessian, Hanoverian, Bavarian, Wurttemburger, de Ligne, Piedmont-Savoy,Two Sicilies, Danish, Dutch, Swedish and Ottoman units(c.1701-1763). I am glad to have you, TiFlo. I would that you familiarize yourself with 3DS MaX7, AND PHOTOSHOP 7. We need, of course, someone whom can design forts and fortresses and cities. We plan to expand this over to MTW2 when it arrives. Just 'play catchup' for now. It takes about three to six months to get up to speed. Our mod will go into the next year.
diBorgia
Hi Cesare diBorja,
So it's only about the XVIIIth century then?
I guess I must extend my researches so as to provide you guys as well with politic, diplomacy and social life of France and England. That' all right, I think I can handle that :2thumbsup: Is there any "checkboard" of what info you exactly need, just for me to know what exactly I look for?
BTW, how many of you are involved in this mod?
Final question: You want me to work on models? Uuuuuuh... :inquisitive:
I have neither 3DS Max7 nor Photoshop, and, except if I find it on the ground, I'll have to buy it, right? Then it might requires some time to get used to it (I'm really not a "math brain").
I don't have it either so its not that big of a deal. I do suggest you look at some of the tutorials in the Scriptorum on scripting.Quote:
Final question: You want me to work on models? Uuuuuuh...
I have neither 3DS Max7 nor Photoshop, and, except if I find it on the ground, I'll have to buy it, right? Then it might requires some time to get used to it (I'm really not a "math brain").
Me Cesare, declare4, and swordmaster is giving us some info on Spain.Quote:
BTW, how many of you are involved in this mod?
@Cesare are you're working on the actul campain map right? Any chance you could get me a list of setellment names for scripting purposes.
I wonder if theres a way to repersent imperaial elections. I guss i could always make a trait showing if you hold an electorship then have a script check for diplomatic standings then decide the election that way.
Working on that now. Map is slow going. models even slower. got finals this week and then I can rest. I will get you a list asap. til then peace be unto you.
diBorgia
I was mistaken here if we take out the senate we'll have enough faction slots with out having to remove Hanover.Quote:
Originally Posted by Destroyer of Hope
some ideas for reforms in the 18th century
Prussia: The reforms of Fredrick I Trigger- date could be used or a high command star faction leader Effects: Very well trained infantry.
The reforms of Fredrick II Trigger: i think i defeat or close victory were the Prussian calvary faired rather badly would be good, as these reforms only happened to fix the short comings of the Prussian force in the first Selissen war. effect: better heavy calvary and artillery.
Russia-
The reforms of Peter the great- Trigger: Seeing Swedish Calvary on the field of battle maybe, and/or defeat at the hands of a faction with better Calvary/artillery. Effects: Greatly better Calvary, artillery recruitment and farming.
Sweden-
the reforms of Charles XII Trigger: Not sure possibly date Effects: Better recruitment, and economy.
Excellent!
I think you are on the right track. However, just think, if they give us more fations to work with in the upcoming release, we may have to expand ourselves. Meeting; this Saturday 12pm PST for all members in the chat zone designated in your PMs'. TBA tonight. Good night and good luck.
diBorgia
by the way good luck on finals :2thumbsup:
hey thanks!:dizzy2: :balloon2: :2thumbsup: :sweatdrop:
Sorry, I didn't make it to the chat guys. HUGE presentation due this week and I had to do my research.
Just ask me for whatever you need.
Our meeting was delayed due to chat zone afouling so we are looking into a different option.
diBorgia
TiFlo do you want to start getting unit list together for the french and English armies? and maybe some trait ideas for there generals?
I'm currently working on the traits if anyone has traits or anclinary ideas please post.
Thanks DoH
All right then, first shot.
I tried to make a list for the Brits, according to what you guys have wrote (there are several posts, I won't quote them).
All units from 1700 to 1780's.
Infantry:
-Musketeers (basic line infantry).
-Grenadiers (if there is room enough, I stick to what has been said about the 3 types of grenadiers units: line bat., sapper comp., guard bat.).
-Foot guard bat. (elite musketeers).
-Light infantry (not before the 7 years war, as they were formed in order to counter the French & Indians in America).
-Scottish reg. (not commonly raised before the War of Austria succession), no better firepower than musketeers, but tougher guys.
Cavalry:
-Dragoons (common cav.).
-Horse reg. (elite heavy close quarter cav.).
Artillery:
This will depend on what different types are choosen, as you already proposed a lot.
As you see, there is not so many different kind of troops. Still we can add some, such as german reg. (AOR), as many of the british reg. were made of german soldiers, or sailors, as they where used (mainly in the colonies, but still) to man the artillery and carry on siege workshop.
Then we have to consider the british army, if not big, was one the most disciplined of that time (platoon system when deployed on battlefield), and that it was mainly designed for colonial warfare, so you should'nt see them by themselves on a european battlefield (maybe give them many AOR troops, according to their allies and the ownings of king George on the continent).
This is far from being exhaustive, feel free to correct everything :laugh4:
Concerning officers traits, I would have some, but (me apologize), they're all for officers who served in America (some served in Europe before, but of no great use)...
I can fix some swedish more history if you want. I know pretty much of this period of time in sweden and have some books I can take a closer look to it if it can be for any use.Quote:
Originally Posted by Destroyer of Hope
Awesome!
Here come the Frenchies.
Infantry:
-Musketeers (basic line infantry).
-Grenadiers (same as for the Brits).
-"Arquebusiers de Grassin" (light infantry, unique organized reg. of that type until late XVIIIst cent.).
-"Gardes Françaises" (French Guard, same as Foot guard for the Brits).
-"Gardes Suisses" (Swiss Guard, maybe similar or close stats as for the Scots).
-"Royal Ecossois" (French Scotish reg.).
-Irish reg. (not many, but used in battle, ie Fontenoy).
-"Compagnies Franches de la Marine" ("marines", mostly used as colonial infantry, they excelled in irregular warfare in America. Only used for garrison duty in ports in Europe).
Cavalry:
-Dragons (dragoons, main cav.).
-Cuirrassiers (heavy close quarter cav.).
-Hussars (lite cav.).
Artillery:
Still to be chosen...
Remarks: One of the main bases of the power of France by that time was its population. In order to reflect that manpower, I think France should be able to field more troops than other "factions" (at least, most of them), ie by lowering units cost, but as a balance to it, the battle stats of the infantry (musketeers, not elite troops) should also be lowered.
What do you guys think of this (and of my previous post to)?
:2thumbsup:Quote:
What do you guys think of this (and of my previous post to)?
I wonder if we should move our start date one up to past the Hanoverian succession to the English throne in 1702? That way we free up another faction slot.
the finals are over, for health or detriment
I say go back to the start of the 'Nine Years' War'. Lets throw a few pikes in there for sh*** and giggles. I have seen the video from lord Adherbal at the Lordz site and I see potential. Yep! we can do this.
I am free for the next two weeks. lets get this thing on the road. Please.
I will be online tomorrow all day.
find me a monkeytool2000@yahoo.com..............yahoo messenger for live chat............for members and all serious persons. Every topic will be dicussed.
Cheerio
diBorgia