The Ilsamiren Wars

I'm really interested in the Northern kingdom. I guess what the logical thing to do here is to hammer out (more or less) the look of the ilsamiri and then do the other 3 kingdoms. The rest can be worked on right away. Good idea?

The rebels would just have the units of whatever homeland they came from, right? You havn't mentioned it yet so, will there be free rebel kingdoms at the start of the game?

Maybe we can put a few subtle elements into the other kingdoms towards maybe Indian, Japanese, and ancient Greece? In a ~very~ sutble way though so that they remain visually similar to Ilsamir.

This is a good list Ilsamir Lord, should we stick this in our own forums too?

Okay, the concept pieces and models we'll need ~so far~:
Ilsamir: 10
Mechathenain: 9+
Seaborne: 8
Ocean Tribes: 6
Northern Kingdom: 12
Western Kingdom: probably 10 to 12
Southern Kingdom: probably 10 to 12
Total designs and models we'll need
(so far): 63+ - 67 +

NodachiSam - Yeah, I like the NK too, and yes, if we do the Ilsamiri first we should find it easier to do the W and S Kingdoms.

In terms of Indian, Japanese etc. references in design, we need to be really careful about doing that, I think the Mechathenain concepts are walking a fine line as is (they are just ok) we really don't want to tip ourselves over the edge :) .

Thanks for that adding up too!

Most of the designs are influenced by Middle-Eastern lamellar armour design drawing upon Central Asian. I'm just a lamellar fanatic!!

Still takes time to develop a unique style away from historically based ones.

Here are some new ones and half completed ones.

https://img396.imageshack.us/img396/...01880ci.th.jpg

Haha, no, he's not Japanese, he's just a guy who wants to cover his face. He wears leather armour and is a medium infantry soldier type for fully armed mobility.

https://img412.imageshack.us/img412/...01891hh.th.jpg

I started drawing it already so the flat helm on this would have to be added later :san_grin:

As for the half completed guy, I dunno what he is, I'm thinking maybe an Ilsamir peasant. JK, maybe a pikeman.

very nice concepts...good luck for your mod!!!!:san_cheesy:

Thanks al! We should have some architectural concepts soon as well.

I also have an announcement to make about the mod. We are (as you may have noticed in my signiature) developing the mod for Barbarian Invasion and The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. The concept work will be employed for both versions as will the setting and many of the unit types. Follow my signiature to our forums for more information.

Here's the latest version of our map. Some of the islands will be moved.

http://s14.invisionfree.com/The_Ilsa...ost&id=1660283

great map!

Kataphraktoi: I really like your concepts, are you still with us?

yeah still am, just haven't uploaded anything for ages. Started uni so just a bit busy.

I have concepts for an Ilsamir swordsman, pikeman and cavalry and some ocean tribes stuff.

Being busy is perfectly understandable then. Have you being given the password to the Ilsamiri development forums yet?

I can't wait for more of those concepts! You've set a such a high standard!

Hey there ppl ~;) I am part of this team. WebDesigner/3dDesigner
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Welcome to new site for "The Ilsamiren Wars" MOD.
We going to update website soon with more info about mod. That were all new information and media will go.

WebSite

We really need anyone with any skill in modding at the moment
But also we need....

• Mappers
• Part-time Modelers
• Skinners
• Voice actors
• Music Composers

One minor correction: we have two part time modellers and a mapper, butwe do definitely need new modellers, voice actors and composers!

Update (but no pictures posted up yet) on whats in the concept notebook:

- Beta Ilsamiren Archer
- Beta Morchanin Scout
- Ocean tribe infantryman
- Beta Ilsamiren swordsman
- Ocean tribe champion
- Seaborne spearman
- Beta Ilsamiren pikeman
- Beta Ilsamiren Knight

Ilsamiren concepts are the worse because theyre hard to draw on paper, "DEATH TO ILSAMIR" :furious3:

:laugh4: :laugh4:

Yay! More to look forward to!

Indeed! I'll soon be posting a progress report/feature on a few forums around the place. Keep a look out!

some concepts, some not finshed, others in desperate need of limb adjustment, but u get the idea of what they might look like. Some cannot be adjusted because the pencil is too dark. Yawnnn. Its too early to upload images....me Grimlock say me want to sleep.

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Great. #1 look good.

:furious3: :furious3: :sweatdrop: https://img79.imageshack.us/img79/46...13pm4sq.th.jpg

One legged knight. No, NOT really, I havent finished legs.\\:furious3: :idea2:

https://img79.imageshack.us/img79/42...00pm1yt.th.jpg

Morchanin Scout maybe, Morhahahaha
Iron plates covered back and front with leather backing so they won't make noises when they touch each other. Carries a blowgun and a four-sided saber for penetration and armour piercing.
Carries a small shield with clothe as extra coverage. :furious3:

https://img79.imageshack.us/img79/92...36am5bb.th.jpg

Originally for something else, but thought could be useful. Heavy-infantryman with bow, sword and mace. Could be Western Kingdom. helmut is rivetted segmented build. :furious3: :furious3: :furious3:

https://img79.imageshack.us/img79/11...20pm5ci.th.jpg

Old image from the archives, possible lancer/archer for the North Korea (my nickname for Northern Kingdom) :furious3: :furious3:

https://img79.imageshack.us/img79/87...20pm4iz.th.jpg

Possible Octribesmen. And no, tis not a see through blade as cool as it would be as a weapon. Wooden armour is the norm, as is the wooden carved mask(top guy) and the obsidian face mask (bottom guy)

https://img79.imageshack.us/img79/83...59pm4gq.th.jpg

Peasant Conscript. Actually, this was the inspiration for a past concept, but there is no way this is going to be used for the mod. I mean, come on, it just doesn't fit. Its for a pet project of mine. :laugh4: :laugh4:


https://img79.imageshack.us/img79/41...58pm0vj.th.jpg

Meant to be something else for something else for something else, but could be useful reference for clothings and blah blah blah

https://img79.imageshack.us/img79/78...detc8jv.th.jpg

Ilsarchers, possible OCT guy who wears a carved wooden cuirass over his Stomockh. Carries an obsidian blade in the Kharshakryi manner. :no: :no: :no: :idea2: :idea2: :idea2:

Gosh, I wish we had some Transformer Emoticons.

Me Grimlock say we should.

My shortcuts for factions if u find it hard to follow me:

Northern Kingdom = North Korea//NK/Nuke
Western Kingdom = Wikis/WK/Workers
Ilsamiren = Sammies
Ocean Tribes = OCT
Seaborne Tribes = Seaweeds/Seabies
Mechthenain = Mechies/Mecha
Rebels = Rebs

Quote:

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This will look good for maybe image of god, or cloth of some king, noble.

My God! That stuff is great! So much to comment on!

I'll start from the beginning of post #107 and work down:

First concept - Possibly good for a more lowly Mechathenain or SK unit. If for the SK there should be less scale armour and more plates, if for the Mech there should be smaller plates, more tied together, to make a more lamellar-ish armour.

Second Concept - I'd say an Ilsamir knight or Darineth guard. :D I love the armour on the chest and thighs! I also like the armour stretching up the neck and onto the face. The pauldrons (shoulder armour I think) are a little too big. Quite a nice shape though. The armour on the upper arm is excellent! The vambraces (which I think are the forearm armour) are quite good, but a little too organic looking. The helmet, which I think we should use somewhere, covers too much of the face. I'd quite like either a helmet with a visor for someone, or perhaps something like a sectional Corinthian helm, though that may look a little too Gondorian :) .

Third Concept - Very nice! Perhaps for a warrior of Malice or some religious figure for the NK.

Fourth Concept - Probably a heavy knight, as you say. Again, the helmet is nice, but not right for the Ilsamiri. The vambraces are nice, the chest armour is good as is that of the legs. The shoulder armour may be a little too bulky though.

Fifth Concept - NK possibly. I think for the NK that a shortage of materials would result in armour being built up in sections, so the more numerous, smaller plates are a good idea. I like the cloth from the shield too. This guy, with a little more decoration on his armour, should be an ethed knight with the helmet from one of your earliest concepts, the guy with the muscle like armour. I'll post the pic if it's not clear which one I mean. He could be a Morchanin I s'pose, but I think they'd wear more cloth. They are a bit like ninja I suppose... but don't take that too literally.

Sixth Concept - He's very Japanese looking. We have to remember that the SK, NK and WK are all Ilsamir in origin, material availability and tactics have changed their designs, but inside the Ilsamir framework. I rather like this guy though, he could be Seaborne perhaps, as they would have very little metal, only what they could steal and melt down really, they'd use anything; cooking pots, coins etc. so scale armour is good for them as they'd only need small quantities of metal.

Seventh Concept - I think a lancer archer for the Mechathenain actually, only available in horse producing provinces. Probably a mounted hunter.

Eighth Concept - My GOD! Superb! I love the masks! It's interesting, both you and Nodachi came up with having masks for the OT. Very cool idea! I think the armour is quite nice, though it should be a little more sectional on the arms and legs, and perhaps in vertical segments for the torso. Seeing those masks, and having the OT with many ambush units makes me think that they should cause fear to enemy infantry. Imagine that damn black obsidion mask screaming and charging at you!

Ninth Concept - :) I think we can use some elements of that for the NK perhaps. Really only the armoured collar though... He would fit in great in a more extreme fantasy setting though, and I must say that he is very cool, again, imagine him on an ethed charging infantry! Still, if you tone it down, make it a little less spiky, a little less bulky, their may be a place for him.

Tenth Concept - Maybe, as Kdar says, for an image of the Weaver, possibly for a statue or in a painting or something. I like it very much.

*phew* Eleventh Concept Page - a) The clothing is very Ilsamiren, but the bow is OT all the way.

b) I like the heavily carved pieces of armour, but he looks like a mexican wrestler :) . Either take his mask or give him armour.

c) Again, sweet carving, good mask, good head-dress. Make his general armour (chest, shoulders etc.) more like his arm guards or a bit more like vertical slats or something.

All in all - A++

PS - we are eventually going to need designs for spies, assassins and diplomats as well as for statues and such in towns. Thanks again Kataphraktoi!

All the concepts done so far, can u finalise which ones will be which (for Ilsamir) and post some comments on changes.

Plus, do we have a modeller/skinner, we've got to get some units on screen as much as it has been fun drawing them.

Indeed we do. Recruitment of modellers is always very difficult. Kdar has offered to do some, but he has never modelled for R:TW.

I'll post comments on all of the concepts in a thread at our forums.

Next time I'll send all concepts to Sammie Lord. I hate flicking up and down the webpage to see which comments are for which concept...yeah, I hate using cognitive skills...lazzyy...

This is so he can upload the images and place comments underneath.

So its gonna be Sammie Lord's resp. to upload them :D

Phew....offloaded another task.

I'd like to finalise the Ilsamir list as soon as possible, so I can use them as reference points for North Korea and the Wikis.

In addition, are we going to expand factions??? Would be nice to have a few more factions with the same dynamics with the Sammies (several factions emerge from a common source and share common traits, etc, etc)

As for my proposed Morchain scout, two options:

Put a cape/clothe over him and make him a Morchanin Scout

Make him an Ilsamir archer or a special Imperial Archer regiment (in which case I'll add embellishments to the armour)

I just don't see the concept as an NK, in fact, it makes want to me cry to see it as NK hahaha....

k, I'll post 'em all on our forums too, then the team can discuss them and assign them to units. I haven't got anything set in stone about the NK look, I just think that they have to look like the Ilsamiri, but effected by life in the wastelands and mountains of the North.

I hope someone decides to model for you guys! It'd be a shame if those concepts went to waste!

Indeed, Lonely Soldier! I have just had an offer, but I can't really say who from until it's been finalised :) .

I've updated our forums with all the concepts so far, at least on my main PC anyway. Check them out in the members section!

Hey, nice work in here...
normally im more of a historical fan, but i really like the art and the concept.
Kudos und Viel Gluck.

Here's a news update I posted at the ModDb profile:


The mod is proceeding quickly and we have nearly pinned down the visual styles for our main factions, thanks to Kataphraktoi, but now, onto the media.

First we have two banners for signiatures:

http://moddb.com/images/cache/mods/6...ater_36178.jpg
http://moddb.com/images/cache/mods/6...ater_36179.jpg

Next, some conceptual faction icons by Nodachi Sam:

http://moddb.com/images/cache/mods/6...ater_36177.jpg

We've already made decisions on which to use, but if anyone has further ideas we're open to them!

Finally, and most importantly for a R:TW mod we have our map, kindly finessed for me from my original by Nodachi Sam. We also have political division and road/feature maps, but these have not been finalised:

http://moddb.com/images/cache/mods/6...ater_36175.jpg

That's all for now. Soon our site (expertly designed by Kdar) should be up and ready to enlighten you on all aspects of the mod! Until then our forums are where to find all the information we have available!