Re: Poll: Thumbs Down on Prez Hillary Clinton
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Originally Posted by Tachikaze
I would give more credit to your post, but a few pages back, I was pointing out that the US was behind other countries in electing a female head of state. So, I'm not just complaining that we haven't had one, but that Pakistan (et al) beat us to it. Pakistan and the others I listed earlier decided they could have an alpha female. Hell, even Japan had Himiko 1300 years ago.
I'm still not understanding the need for having a vagina or darker skin pigment in order to somehow be fair in the electoral process? Do you think there should be an affirmative action process in the electoral process now? If a candidate had six tits, a trunk, and three penises but supported my beliefs I'd vote for it. I think your loathing of the United States and its foundation only blinds you to a point that you consider any person white "European" as you say, Christian, or Conservative, you consider them sexist and racists because they don't elect anything except for whites (which isn't true except in Tachi's little Hate America agenda). I think you "misunderestimate" your fellow Americans. Maybe its not your fellow countrymen that are the true racists or sexists in this discussion.
Re: Poll: Thumbs Down on Prez Hillary Clinton
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Originally Posted by Tachikaze
I would give more credit to your post, but a few pages back, I was pointing out that the US was behind other countries in electing a female head of state. So, I'm not just complaining that we haven't had one, but that Pakistan (et al) beat us to it. Pakistan and the others I listed earlier decided they could have an alpha female. Hell, even Japan had Himiko 1300 years ago.
Fair enough but in the overall scheme of things those examples are still the exceptions to the rule. Regent by birth or per appointment by a body of nobles acting out of self interest is one thing but I find it interesting that as far as democracies are concerned it is countries like Pakistan, India, Israel, the Philippines, Indonesia, etc. that are leading the pack. Interesting in that all of those countries were or are places where women either by law or tradition are primarily relegated to the traditional role of homemaker. It seems men are more inclined to elect or support a female leader if their perception of the average woman is one of a moral, motherly figure and wife instead of a non-serious girlfriend or career path professional. Failing that voters of either sex seem to be more likely to support women who also espouse those same values (i.e. Thatcher & Merkel). I don't think it's that surprising. The west (especially America) may lead the world in terms of women's rights and the percentage of women in the workplace but with their newfound freedom western women also lead the world in terms of infidelity and practically corner the market on 'less respectable' careers like modeling, stripping, porn, etc. There also seems to be no shortage of women in the west who are single minded in their obsession with attracting the attentions of men by either dressing provocatively and adopting the growing trend of wearing as little as possible to clubs and wearing next to nothing at the beach, etc. It may be unfair to judge the average western woman based on the actions of a select few but if the rank and file of those few seems to grow steadily with each year since women were granted the right to vote I can understand how it may affect how the average western male views the opposite sex.
Re: Poll: Thumbs Down on Prez Hillary Clinton
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Originally Posted by Spino
Fair enough but in the overall scheme of things those examples are still the exceptions to the rule. Regent by birth or per appointment by a body of nobles acting out of self interest is one thing but I find it interesting that as far as democracies are concerned it is countries like Pakistan, India, Israel, the Philippines, Indonesia, etc. that are leading the pack. Interesting in that all of those countries were or are places where women either by law or tradition are primarily relegated to the traditional role of homemaker. It seems men are more inclined to elect or support a female leader if their perception of the average woman is one of a moral, motherly figure and wife instead of a non-serious girlfriend or career path professional. Failing that voters of either sex seem to be more likely to support women who also espouse those same values (i.e. Thatcher & Merkel). I don't think it's that surprising. The west (especially America) may lead the world in terms of women's rights and the percentage of women in the workplace but with their newfound freedom western women also lead the world in terms of infidelity and practically corner the market on 'less respectable' careers like modeling, stripping, porn, etc. There also seems to be no shortage of women in the west who are single minded in their obsession with attracting the attentions of men by either dressing provocatively and adopting the growing trend of wearing as little as possible to clubs and wearing next to nothing at the beach, etc. It may be unfair to judge the average western woman based on the actions of a select few but if the rank and file of those few seems to grow steadily with each year since women were granted the right to vote I can understand how it may affect how the average western male views the opposite sex.
Good post and a thought-provoking perspective.
Re: Poll: Thumbs Down on Prez Hillary Clinton
Well now, we have an interesting topic with intelligent and rational debate.
We are right were the Founding Fathers wanted us. From over 230 years ago they have managed to lead us down the right path. We as a country just have to open our eyes and get "back on the path". And we get there by working together.
