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like this
http://www.oriental-arms.com/photos/...01618/ph-0.jpg
and this:
http://www.strongblade.com/prod/prod...hamshir1_l.jpg
and this unit is good i think we will call them almoravide spearman:
https://img387.imageshack.us/img387/...bed18ti.th.jpg
but can you make them saharien unit blue-black colors,and i don't like the helmet.
for the lamtuna you can do the same thing but the shield must be large and the spear very long
ok?
That last spearman with green shield, what need to be changed? I didnt got it :)
this is nice but you have to make them more saharian unit,i think you may make the head like the almoravides javeline,the face is headden but you can preserve the white but i didn't like the yellow ok?is it clear?
Okay will do i nthat way
ok man thanks.
for the al moravide warrior i want you to change the shield,the shield seems like a european men-at-arm.
https://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bbb12gk.jpg
change it to round shield.
Okay, this is that one fixed.
https://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3657/fr17yq.th.jpg
So this is stored, i hope.
Changed shield (oval islam) and sword (not so much but can be seen i hope)
https://img426.imageshack.us/img426/2807/fr17qr.th.jpg
for the spearman it's ok,and for the secund the sword is ok.
for the shield i didn't like the color,if you can change it with another colors like white and black or white blue(more darkness).
the secund possibility you add a simple round shield.
i will search some pictur of islamic shild.what is the next unit we will do?
I try another shield, if find one decent.
Next unit? I dont know :) let go in order :)
Here new shield.
Added some particulars too.
https://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8864/fr18bn.th.jpg
ok,what is the next step? lamtuna or berber infantry?
for the lamtuna, iwan't it like the almoravide spearmen but you change the white to blue and the they must have a large shield
Berber cavalry with a stendard, or such.
https://img235.imageshack.us/img235/2587/fr12aa.th.jpg
https://img235.imageshack.us/img235/289/fr22mt.th.jpg
can also go on foot, i guess.
he is like a ninja,the banner is too big, and don't hide his face becaus berbers of andalus or of morroco don't hide there face and they don't live in sahara ok?
this is firts the secund thing the berber cavalry is a missil cavalry throw javlines:
13-Berber cavalry: T: missile cavalry, N: 60, A: average, C: good, M: excellent, D: average/weak, W: javelin, sabre, H: no, Ar: no/leather, S: oval or bilobed, Mo: good, St: excellent. Co: average
Ah yeah, i wanted ask if veil face or not :)
I will uncover face, and can add javelin. Spear or sword, when ended javelin?
Ah sabre, i read it.
https://img93.imageshack.us/img93/7923/fr17dh.th.jpg
(sabre is there but hidden as secondary weapon)
Ah, figure it is on horse, i forget to add horse :)
Ok.the head need to be change.he 's like a chinese
that is what CA pass in BI for a moor raider....
Same model, same skin.
Need change face or the had totally?
I can put some other face, maybe with some beard.
This is how shows the lamtuna
https://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4527/fr10uj.th.jpg
https://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1981/fr28rb.th.jpg
Again need critics. Added a new type of shield, somewhat oval. And changed armor, added some kind of armor, found on vanilla :)
Almazor, scans the faces in bi/data/models unit/textures, and if find a good face for that berber, i add it :)
for berber i think the face maybe the head too,
for the lamtuna can you change the color of the shield to black and the cloaths to white?this unit is good for me.
I think will put back a turbant head on that berber, and leave face uncovered.
Will put white dress and make shield black. But black isnt a good color, for skins, i fear.
Maybe a very dark blue? Let see how comes the variant.
Then after this 2? what remain outside?
We msut find a good picture for a general and his bodyguard.
Must tell me how resemble a general of almoravides..
if the black isn't a good for skins you don't use it ok?you can do 1 thing,if you play the Medieval total war you remember the murabitin infantry,
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/hobby.one4/i...bes/arabe2.jpg
you can use the same shield (simple shield)?
for the al moravide general they didn't hide there face,you can take this as a model:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/hobby.one4/i...s/youssouf.jpg
and use this links:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/hobby.one4/Kremlin.htm
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/hobby.one4/Almoravides.htm
the sources of arab medieval is too poor i didn't find something interresting,
if you want you can use:the opsrey publishing of "islam armies of the west:the moors".
https://img81.imageshack.us/img81/1239/fr10pe.th.jpg
This is that lamtuna changed.
Now i change head at that berber.
https://img99.imageshack.us/img99/337/fr12mk.th.jpg
Here i hope definitive berber cavalry. is on foot, but can mount, no problem.
Now i work some on the general, i guess
https://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7972/fr12gk.th.jpg
https://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4124/fr22po.th.jpg
Here a wip general. what think about it?
ok the berber is good now i will i update the new shield,but the lamtuna we must search another shield or you can add the shield of murabitin infantry(simple shield).
Okay can change the shield, but want big one? i will put a simple wooden like shield, and see how come. So big shield, let hope wood come out okay.
the general is good,can you add spear with banner in the left of general?
Mmm, banner on general? I think must make a musician for banner.
Will study something. General dont use banner, i fear. But am not expert on that thing.
Need a general, a captain and a musician i think
Here a simple wooden shield.
https://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6531/fr17bq.th.jpg
for the shield is not good,i don't know if you have another suggestion show me.you can see this form chivalry total war "murabitin infantry"
https://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?...rabitin9id.jpg
yes we seed a capitain and camel musician
You like that shield? Can do similar, maybe rectangular shape.
Will see what can realize
Here is the other berber. infantry or mounted, dont know, can choose.
https://img307.imageshack.us/img307/4223/fr19rj.th.jpg
https://img307.imageshack.us/img307/4725/fr20ah.th.jpg
Now will try to add that shield of murabitin.
Here is with a similar shield.
https://img228.imageshack.us/img228/421/fr18mt.th.jpg
for me the lamtuna is good,i will add a link in the progress list,for berber i have some critics,they didn' seem from berber or from islamic cultur.the problem with muslim is we didn't have ,but i find some picture
http://www.dutkins.com/catalog/photos/MA/1120.JPG
http://urduseek.com/images/heroes/ajdel.jpg
http://urduseek.com/images/heroes/somnath.jpg
http://www.sfusd.k12.ca.us/schwww/sc...converted).gif
http://www.sfusd.k12.ca.us/schwww/sch618/War/helmet.jpg
http://urduseek.com/images/heroes/sind.jpg
you can make them like that and add djelaba youwill find some of unit with djellabah in DBA armies(i forgot the link)
http://urduseek.com/images/heroes/sind.jpg
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/conquest1.jpg
http://urduseek.com/images/heroes/spain.jpg
http://urduseek.com/images/heroes/turkestan.jpg
http://urduseek.com/images/heroes/turks.jpg
http://urduseek.com/images/heroes/jerosalem.jpg
http://urduseek.com/images/heroes/mongols.jpg
and this is the pictur of sultan of morocco in the 19th ad i post it to give you idea about djellabah traditionnal moors clothes
http://urduseek.com/images/heroes/morocco.jpg
http://www.danheller.com/images/Afri...show/img2.html
with amamah
http://www.danheller.com/images/Afri...show/img3.html
http://d89156.i50.quadrahosting.com..../ospmaa125.jpg
http://gatherer.wizards.com/gatherer...orish_Cavalry#
http://gatherer.wizards.com/gatherer...Army_of_Allah#
Awsome work everyone! Im really liking this faction alot, Can't wait to utilize these dudes to kick some Spanish a**.
Those berber i did on osprey plates.
https://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7013/fr14ad.th.jpg
https://img154.imageshack.us/img154/7017/fr24sp.th.jpg
This is what osprey say about andalusian cavalryman
https://img445.imageshack.us/my.php?...1thcenturi.jpg
ok it's ok but dress him with some armor or cloaths and you can make berber cavalry like in oprey ok?
you can inspire inthis
http://www.dutkins.com/catalog/photos/MA/1120.JPG
and this link is usefull:about andalucians
http://www.dbaol.com/armies/army_103_figure_1.htm
and berbers(almoravides berbers units:):
http://www.dbaol.com/armies/army_125_figure_1.htm
http://www.dbaol.com/images/faces/1081_face.jpg
you can use this shield
Well, andalusian cavalry is exactly like in all those pictures, so i think can go for it.
Andalusian infantry i am doing one like i nthat plate, let see if like it.
Those berbers dont seems much berber, seems like all beduin I did till now.
Will change some the infantry berber, next.
Bye
Andalusian infantry, again based on that plate posted above.
https://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9638/fr19va.th.jpg
https://img129.imageshack.us/img129/5346/fr26am.th.jpg
That are sources i have, else, can make them all covered in mail like in that site you posted.