World Socialism Will Ultimately Prevail over Capitalism and Individual LIberty

I'm also pretty sceptical of the supposed ability of those privately-owned firearms to "protect the People from the Governement" in the first place - look at the West Bank or Iraq to see just how well untrained civilians, no matter how motivated, can fight against well-equipped modern armies. And over there the "governement" side doesn't have good legal records on the gun-owners in the first place like it does in the US...

Seems to me a way more sensible way to curtail "tyranny" or whatever would be to actually pay attention to and participate in the actual politics and governing of the state so the possession of firearms as a defense against "the Man" doesn't become an issue in the first place, rather than to strut and posture and gesticulate at the Sacred Gun and refuse to have anything to do with "damn Feds".
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Anyway. A bit of a peeve of mine and not necessarily wholly relevant to the topic, that.

Reason has no place in the gun debate, OK? Please forget about modern day tanks etc etc and think of the industry as a whole.

If you stop Americans killing each other not only are there going to be more unemployed from reduction in manufacturing, but also due to the increased people that won't be killed.

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You are indeed correct. I misread the table. I was flat out, dead wrong on that part. :bow:

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Oh I am surprised that you admitted that your incorrect. Very good.

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That only slightly changes the nature of the argument; however. The 30,000+ 706 forms filed number still stands. That's it and it doesn't appear to vary much over the last few decades, hovering around 100K returns, until the 2001 law was passed, then it decreases dramatically. And that was before the number went up again this year. Just around 30,000 people filed taxable estate tax returns. You can refute that now if you wish.

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That was never my point. My point has always been potential.

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Are you prepared to admit you were using the wrong estate tax limit numbers yet? Probably not.

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You might want to go back and read one of the posts - been away for a week but a remember clearly stating this statement.

You got me on not paying attention to when it went to 1.5 million - but that doesn't give one sufficient reason to make certain statements now either does it?

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And yet, you seem to think that that isn't an ad hominem attack. You do it all the time in these forums. It's on of your favorite phrases. It there such a thing as a pompous ass-u-me? You're the poster child. That's OK, as long as you're making pompous ass-umptions, I'll be here to call you on it.

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How funny might or might not be an ad hominem fallacy or it could be simple sarcasm at the arguement. What is an ad hominem arguement is making accusations of bad math and bad numbers directed at the individual when one is indeed themselves guilty of doing exactly that.

What does ass-u-me mean?. Break it down you might begin to get a clear picture of the term. Here I will help. Assume makes rearends of both and all involved. (And I thought you spent time in the military - its a pretty basic saying. The saying has been around for many years.)

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Why wouldn't they? That's the cap! No one is really this stupid. It's got to be an act. Why would they focus on those below the cap? Those below the cap don't have a tax liability!

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I questioned the percentaged based upon what I knew. That I did not pay attention to the cap being raised to 2 million this year is indeed my error. However we both have clearly demonstrated by the IRS numbers that the potential to be greater then .27 percent does indeed exist when one considers that their is 3510000 millionaries in the United States. You may believe it to be correct - that is your choice my opinion is something else. However when you yourself are guilty of using incorrect data - it is easy to see how the data can be used to develop the picture that one wants to paint.

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Tax examiner, eh? How funny (your phrase not mine). I know the qualifications needed for the job. In fact, I know a couple of people with just GEDs doing it right now. You haven't impressed me.

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Making assumtions again - you might want to re-read what was written.

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Run away child. Enjoy your time away from our lovely forum. Unlike you, I can readily admit an error. Are you heading out to take a pompous ass-umption class? :laugh4:

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ad hominem comments because I had to go on a business trip. To bad your still haven't learned a few simple lessons about behaviors.

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When you return, I promise to bow before your superior pompous ass-umptions. Or is that anterior? Hmmm...

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Not necessary - you have demonstrated exactly the reason why one fails to learn from their own mistakes quite well.

As promised, I hereby and forthwith bow to your pompous ass-umptions. :bow:

You're still wrong; but Xiahou was having a hard time of it, so welcome back. We were running short of silly arguments to dissect. Things should pick up now! :wink: