-President Bush being elected president! jk, dont want to spark a whole debate there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_John
-WOMEN!
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-President Bush being elected president! jk, dont want to spark a whole debate there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_John
-WOMEN!
Essentially it is a similar process when using a wick and a hydrocarbon reserviour that is liquid at room temperature. The only real difference is that the wax (solid hydrocarbon at room temperature) has to be liquified first before being consumed. The candle wax melts and then the hydrocarbon flows up the wick to burn in the flame. It creates heat through an exothermic chemical reaction which involves the fuel (hyrdocarbons) and the air (oxygen).Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
are you being facetious? i'm no candle-ologist, but i can't see how that'd be a mysterious phenomenon...Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
IIRC it was Rudolph Hess who introduced the Thule to Hitler when they were imprisoned after the coup (with Hess being a pupil/acolyte of a Thule member, the name of which I can't remember).Quote:
Originally Posted by A.Saturnus
I wouldn't call Nazi Christians though. Have you seen this documentary where Himmler was in charge of building a castle complex as an equivalent of the Vatican and he was to become the high priest. They even have plans and models.Quote:
I just find it a bit offensive to say that Nazi Germany was an atheist society when atheists were one of the minorities prosecuted in Nazi Germany.
They though that they were Christians, but instead they badly misinterprited the bible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quietus
Just like what Bush does today.
We should make a distinction between "cannot be explained" and "haven't been explained".Quote:
Originally Posted by Lehesu
Women are among those things where an explanation doesn't really matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by {BH}Goalie
Take yawning, for example.
Anyway, my point is that for some people, they come to a point in their lives at which a supreme being becomes very palpable to them, often when they are at their worst. This spiritual experience is enough proof to them that religion is good and that it works. One that has not had that experience is more willing to quantify and refute on a lack of solid evidence. For people that have experienced such a period in their life, all the evidence they need has been provided.
It's like refuting someone's mathematical theory even though you haven't gone through the calculations yourself, or disagreeing with someone's scientific method without actually knowing the science the guy is working with.
for example of what? a life mystery that cannot be explained by logical reasoning?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lehesu
religion and the "spiritual experience" are two different entities.Quote:
Anyway, my point is that for some people, they come to a point in their lives at which a supreme being becomes very palpable to them, often when they are at their worst. This spiritual experience is enough proof to them that religion is good and that it works.
this is the bunker that the "faithful" can command. however, an incommunicable experience forms absolutely no basis for understanding. and so taking this position is not very helpful to a discussion of the merits of theism, atheism, religion, spirituality, etc.Quote:
One that has not had that experience is more willing to quantify and refute on a lack of solid evidence. For people that have experienced such a period in their life, all the evidence they need has been provided.
actually, it's not like that at all. one can sit down and work through a proof if they feel like it, and scientific experiments are reproducible. demonstrate a spiritual experience in an equivalent way. only then will these situations be similar.Quote:
It's like refuting someone's mathematical theory even though you haven't gone through the calculations yourself, or disagreeing with someone's scientific method without actually knowing the science the guy is working with.
Than define the spirit, if you so choose.
People will attack religion as being fake and illogical, unprovable and incomprehensible. And yet, strangely, many believe in spiritual experiences despite the fact that they, too, cannot be completely explained and quantified. What makes up the human spirit? Why does it exist and how does it work? What makes a spiritual experience what it is? People take the spirit for granted, and yet are willing to count out religion.
It's like a bunch of flies sitting on the back of a rhinocerous, confident that they are the only real living things in the area. What senses do we lack to see our surroundings with and probe the depths of our own being?
speaking for myself, i don't believe that anything i would call a "spirit" has a physical reality. so i would never pretend to define such beyond the conceptual definition i could read in a dictionary. that would be a task for a believer, i suppose.
Considering the profound effect brain damage can have on the personality, the "spirit" is heavily linked to the body, or we can exclude personality from the concept of human sprit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lehesu
As for religion itself, it got several problems added to it, outside the spiritual matters. Are they all right? All wrong? Who is right and who isn't?