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SIgurd's trying to tell us the MANNER of death is important. He made it clear in the story, then had the old geezer reiterate that while one was stabbed, the one getting choked was unusual. I also find it odd that only 2 kills were perpetrated, not three. Looks like a Jotun missed the deadline on PMs.
Vote: Pevergreen (with a close eye also on CR)... cheering for the town so early on.... why?
In fact, let's make this interesting.
Challenge: Crazed Rabbit (to complement my vote).
Sigurd, it probably would have helped if you had let us know who our teammates were in our PMs. I have no idea if I'm challenging a kinsman or not...
Edit: Never mind. Until I can figure out who's in my clan and who isn't without putting myself at a disadvantage, I'm not issuing any challenges.
that my friend would have been a seriously unbalanced game...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom_Hagen
Although we should by no means base a lynch on such evidence as that Frame attempt intends to do, we should keep an eye on those who might have known of Disco's love of the broadsword. It's an interesting piece of the kill description, perhaps a frame, perhaps a clue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
I am of to bed now.
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Kagemusha
Ichigo
Caius Flaminius
Husar
GeneralHankerchief
Proletariat
Lord Motep of Kendermore
Discovery1
So at least one of these people is mafia?
Vote:GeneralHankerchief as the most likely to attempt a frame, FoS:Ichigo for being the first to bring it up.
Just how often has Disco mentioned this broadsword thing? Could be someone who just happened to pass through.
Interesting point on the emphasis of manner of death.
The unusual nature of the neck breaking received emphasis, while the other form of death -- the stabbing -- was clearly presented as the "normal" choice.
This suggests one death as "supernatural" -- jotunnish?
This implies the other death was "normal" -- serial killer, random killing?
Hugh had called upon me to talk. Fair enough, since that was my vote's call for Sasaki.
For me, the normal route to a townie victory is to analyze the available data: kills, votes, posting content/frequency/variation.
I'm on track so far, though the evidence is limited.
For me, the normal route for a mafia victory is to appear to do the above, but the threads don't quite come together -- meanwhile killing people.
Were I the "mafia" this time, I wouldn't have taken down either of those as targets. I would have aimed for someone with a tradition of backing off participation after death so as to curtail interaction (e.g. Caius, Kralizec, Prole -- possibly Hanky, though sometimes he's active while dead and sometimes not).
I voted for Sasaki because:
1. I love his bandwagon smilie, which comes out on these occasions.
2. He won't be lynched this round, even if I forget to change my vote.
3. Pretty much everyone in the .org is aware that even were he to die it would affect his play only a little.
Tally:
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What makes you think you have to vote me to get me to say something? You know I'll comment anyway, so your vote was not needed if that was your only intention.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
Interesting, so the chose of kills proves your innocence you say?Quote:
For me, the normal route for a mafia victory is to appear to do the above, but the threads don't quite come together -- meanwhile killing people.
Were I the "mafia" this time, I wouldn't have taken down either of those as targets. I would have aimed for someone with a tradition of backing off participation after death so as to curtail interaction (e.g. Caius, Kralizec, Prole -- possibly Hanky, though sometimes he's active while dead and sometimes not).
Number 2 and number three conflict. You say I won't die and then you go on to explore the possibility of my death while making light of the lynching of a pro-townie. I will keep playing, but we often can only afford to lynch 4 or 5 townies. Carelessness in such matters is suggestive.Quote:
I voted for Sasaki because:
1. I love his bandwagon smilie, which comes out on these occasions.
2. He won't be lynched this round, even if I forget to change my vote.
3. Pretty much everyone in the .org is aware that even were he to die it would affect his play only a little.
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Answered above. What you say is very likely true, and the likelihood my vote will finish upon you is small. Please unearth the smiley!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Well, Sasaki, as you know, I cannot prove my innocence any more than any other poster at this stage of play. Any vote pick, barring a mess-up by one player, is essentially random at this point.
I'm not even sure that my death would prove my innocence, since I haven't got a handle on all of these roles yet.
Why don't you switch votes from Hanky to me and see if my death clears anything up.
Skoal! Thanks for the wagon smiley!!!!!
Nevermind...Sasaki posted it
Is there any motivation for the 3 clans to work among themselves? That is, is it a simple matter of the the 3 clans, collectively, form a town? Or, are the 2 warring clans supposed to try to eliminate each other in addition to killing off the Jotun?
Not true, I've been in plenty games where mafia were lynched day 1. Often the people who say "it's all random really" are mafia trying to avoid giving an opinion, see Ducky in "Interficio".Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
Why do you suggest I switch votes from hanky to you?
It is a known fact that Ichigo's vote will always be on Sasaki. It's sort of a joke, an Csar/Ichigo-tradition. This is common knowledge. So HughTower has a point when he says Seamus is just looking for an excuse to vote Sasaki.
He stated he voted Sasaki to make him talk. We all know that if there is one mafia player who will always post in the thread, no matter what his role is, it is Sasaki. So voting him to make him talk is not convincing.
He also became almost immediately defensive, posting "if I were mafia, I wouldn't have picked those targets".
Asking to get lynched to prove one's innocence can be bluffing.
On the other hand, the game has just started and maybe Seamus was just unlucky in his choice of words. For now I'll vote abstain. I'm going to wait how this thread develops. But I'll be watching you, Seamus :inquisitive:
Vote : Abstain
Those are the chat regulars. About half the game are in the chat every couple of days. That's been his name when he joins the chat for around a week now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
UnvoteQuote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
My vote will stand until I can prove your innocence or someone more suspicious comes along. FYI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Not enough time to truely think through the scenerio of the deaths. The information being based out seems based upon pure guesswork - In otherwords more information is needed.
Vote:Abstain
That's a cop out. Don't want to pretend to look for mafia?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
Well, your just as likely as anyone else to be mafia at this point in the game so I'll stick with you for now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Do you advocate doing things by random chance?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
Vote:Abstain
If i was to vote all i would do was bandwagon as there is no reely evidence pointing to anybody. We have no clue atm at all too whether a No lynch will be benefitial or not so i would prefer not to vote, however if any reely evidence does apear i will imedietly change my vote.
Vote: Abstain
I'm sick, I'm tired, I can't think straight and I have to go out later tonight.
Yes, Seamus. Why is it that you want Sasakis head on a platter so badly? There has been no action of his so far to condone such actions. So, Talk.
Vote: Seamus
Vote: Motep
I feel like it. Really thinking is too much effort for me at the moment.
And why is it that you vote me, hmmm? Because I vie for logic raher than blindly throwing the dart?Quote:
Originally Posted by Orb
Unvote; Vote: Orb
I'm unsure about my candidate.
Seamus seems to jump on Csar's choice while Sasaki doesn't give a good reason either.
I'm leaning towards Seamus but I will give it a while until i decide, someone else may turn up crying "lynch me, lynch me!"
Sure why not. Not like there's anything better to go on at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
I'm sure that's what you want me to say ~;) So what was your vote for GH?
I had the impression Disco had mentioned it a couple times in chat, not changed his name to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
I beg to differQuote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
uhh, on your knees thenQuote:
Originally Posted by Lord Motep of Kendermore
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