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Originally Posted by econ21
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yes like post 19 of this threadQuote:
Originally Posted by econ21
They leave healthy animals of any type alone for a reason. They cant risk getting hurt.Quote:
There's some pretty good reasons why carnivores tend to leave gorillas alone.
A lion will tear a gorilla up never mind a Tiger. Cats are the best killing machines on the planet today. Even your cat at home will give a big dog a good fight
Tiger vs Polar r Grizzly bear would be my match of the century
Well I found Grizzly vs Cougar. Damn that Grizzly is big and muscular.
Cougar vs Grizzly
Oh yes. Check out this absolutily amazing tiger attack. It just appears, and then WHAM. Poor guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/1387...8c7/index.html
If that guy lived he woulda need a new pair of underpants
HoooooWeeeeee - nice vid
If I was in a swimming pool and one of those would jump in I would scare myself to death.:fainting:Quote:
Originally Posted by Husar
Must eat peanuts mode.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Now if a cougar can do that imagine what a tiger could do
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The Cougar is a slender and agile cat. The length of adult males is around 2.4 m (8 ft) long nose to tail, with overall ranges between 1.5–2.75 meters (5–9 feet) nose to tail suggested for the species in general.[11][12] Males have an average weight of about 53–72 kilograms (115–160 pounds). In rare cases, some may reach over 120 kg (260 lb). Female average weight is between 34–48 kg (75–105 lb).[13] Cougars are smallest close to the equator, and increase in size as they approach the poles.[2]
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Tigers are the heaviest cats found in the wild.[8] Although different subspecies of tiger have different characteristics, in general male tigers weigh between 200 and 320 kilograms (440 and 700 lb) and females between 120 and 181 kg (265 and 400 lb). On average, males are between 2.6 and 3.3 metres (8 ft 6 in to 10 ft 8 in) in total length, and females are from nose to tip of tail between 2.3 and 2.75 metres (7 ft 6 in and 9 ft) in length. Of the living subspecies, Sumatran tigers are the smallest, and Amur (or Siberian) tigers are the largest.
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Male Bengal tigers range anywhere from 200 to 295 kg (440-650 lb) and females range between 120-180 kg (264-400 lb). Males in the wild usually weigh 205 to 227 kg (450-500 lb), while the average female will weigh about 140 kg (310 lb). However, the northern Indian and the Nepalese Bengal tigers are considerably bulkier than those found in other places, with recorded instances of shot males that weighed more than 300 kg (660 lb). One large male killed in Nepal in 1942 weighed 320 kg (706 lb), while another, killed in 1910 in India, weighed 317 kg (700 lb). The largest Bengal tiger ever shot was a male 3.3 m (11 ft) in total length and weighed close to 390 kg (857 lb); this giant was killed in 1967.
You wont even see it coming as the guy on that elephant found out. I just realised that means they can leap over a one story house. OMG.Quote:
In the wild, tigers can leap as high as 5 m (16 ft) and as far as 9-10 m (30-33 ft), making them one of the highest-jumping mammals (just slightly behind cougars in jumping ability).
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On average, male Siberian Tigers weigh about 300 kilograms (660 lb) [1] and female Amurs weigh about 160 kilograms (350 lb). However, males can weigh as much as 350 kilograms (800 lb), the largest documented wild Siberian Tiger weighing 384 kg (845 lbs). At these sizes, the Siberian Tiger is the largest natural creature of the cat family, a title it may share with the most northern living Bengal tigers. This, however, is not as large as the liger, a panthera hybrid only found in captivity. The largest captive Siberian Tiger was 3.9 metres (13 ft) long and weighed over 423 kilograms (932 lb). Apart from its size, the Siberian Tiger is differentiated from other tiger subspecies by its paler fur and dark brown (rather than black) stripes. As well as colour their fur is thicker and longer to keep them warm in the freezing temperatures of their habitat. Siberian Tigers also have larger feet than most other sub-species to facilitate movement through snow.
Pretty amazing how he manages to fool even the elephants. That said, it's pretty amazing and brave for the tiger to attack the man on top of the giant elephant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
I do imagine a Liger vs a Gorilla or Polar Bear would be an intensive battle.
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That dude is nuts. They had a guy on the discovery channel do the samething. I thought it was going to jump him or at least swat him a few times.
I saw a news story about an old man who got attacked by a leopard and killed it with his bare hands by ripping its tongue out.
Given that, the fact that gorillas traditionally fight eachother, and this:
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/5...rillabaux7.jpg
I would have to say gorilla.
Oh yeah Take that
http://img1.photographersdirect.com/...m/pd419105.jpg
And lets not forget these
http://www.vituperation.com/journal/2006/July/2620.jpg
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Tiger claws:
Claws are up to 5 inches in length. Forefeet have five claws, including a dew claw, while hind paws have four claws with the dew claw being absent.
Because dew claws are placed high on the limb they do not suffer wear from contact with the ground. This means they become particularly long and sharp, very useful for holding prey.
Great video! Awesome! Especially the last sequence whenQuote:
Originally Posted by TosaInu
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If it attacked him he would be dead LOL . It made a threatening jesture at him so he made one back.Quote:
the lion attacked him and he did a boxing move in the air at the last moment to scare it back
More tiger pwnage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbbVxkMRqXA
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Well he said himself at the end of the video that if he hadn't distracted it it would have continued the attack all the way. The last move was definitely more serious than the earlier ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
No he didnt. And yes the last move the cat was thinking of giving him a little swat. Of course as he said it could take his head off. These lions act exactly the same as my pet cat. You need to understand their body language and habits. The lion was exploring and testing the man. Again if he attacked we wouldnt be talking about this and neither would he.Quote:
Well he said himself at the end of the video that if he hadn't distracted it it would have continued the attack all the way. The last move was definitely more serious than the earlier ones.
Man that has to stink. Ever smell a pet cat spray his territory PUQuote:
There's a show on Discovery indeed. He's known as Mad Mike and has an equally vivid side-kick (fond of African Wild Dogs). This is one of the most daring things I've seen him do, but approaching elephant bulls isn't a walk in the park either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
There may be the adrenaline kick and pushing the edges, but I also guess they add sensation to the movies to keep us normal people awake about wildlife. We've seen the Lion King and there's enough other entertainment these days, more interesting than seeing lions take down a zebra.
There isn't only the size of the jaw, but also the muscles to shut it down. Pussycat jaws are made to bite soft meat, gorillas bite off bamboo. Seems a tough coconut is no problem at all for them. Mind you, they won't make holes in it, they will completely crush it.
Harmless herbivores vs meateating lions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRwT...elated&search=
The lions had cubs, so a very good reason to fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBem...elated&search=
Why do you run lion? They are only grasseaters, not the top of the foodchain.
Hunting and striking from ambush (selecting the already weak, sick and cripple), yes they may win that.
I don't understand the difference. Someone about to cut your head off isn't an attack? Well, excuse my poor English, it's not my native language.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Don't confuse leopards and lions/tigers. Leopards don't tend to kill many people - when they attack, it is like don't really know what they are doing and usually bug out realising they have made a mistake - having inflicted only a few scratches on their shaken victim. They are smaller than men and not used to tackling man-sized prey (they make short work of small kids, though).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Man is close to natural prey for tigers and when they attack they will tend to take you by surprise, going straight for the neck. I doubt your bare hands would avail you. They kill serious numbers of people in the wild (even with their depleted numbers) and seem to regularly pick off unlucky zookeepers around the world.
Lions have pretty much the same armaments as tigers, but are unlikely to see us a natural prey. If they do get a taste for man-eating, they are overpowering - although often it seems to be the older cats who turned to this, being unable to hunt more fleet footed natural prey.
I'm not sure how much any of this relates to contests with gorillas, as they are obviously much more formiddable prey than an unarmed man.
Why do you hate felines :clown:Quote:
Originally Posted by TosaInu
I just say they are overrated.
I think that the Gorilla would snap the Lions back or neck.Hands are very good for that kind of stuff. Lets throw some more gasolin to the fire and pair us a new fighting pair! Polar Bear vs, Gorilla. I think that could be too much for poor ole cousin of us. Polar bear can use its hands also for fighting and i think that its heavier and stronger then the Gorilla.:smash:
Only because they were vastly outnumbered.Quote:
Harmless herbivores vs meateating lions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRwTQ...elated&search=
The lions had cubs, so a very good reason to fight.
I explained that earlier. Why do you think they hunt the young and sick? They cant take a chance of getting hurt or they die.Quote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBemh...elated&search=
Why do you run lion? They are only grasseaters, not the top of the foodchain.
Hunting and striking from ambush (selecting the already weak, sick and cripple), yes they may win that.
Ill tell you what you try taking on a leopard and try to pull its tongue out. You be a mess trying that with my pet cat. Or even trying to give him a bath. He weighs 20lbs and has real sharp teeth and claws :laugh4: Hes one big cat. And no he isnt fat either.
cat attack
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Wild Cat Attack
Yeah, leopard < lion; human < gorilla.Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
I think bite damage would be about the same, then it becomes a matter of hands vs claws. Gorillas are more intelligent and can use the trees better. The hate water however. I still say gorilla.
And just how many times do you think the human wins that encounter? Yeah I thought so. Thats why this was an amazing story. It would be the same if a gorilla killed a big male tiger. Some here seem to have watched King Kong a few too many times :laugh4:Quote:
Yeah, leopard < lion; human < gorilla.
Some good stuff from a site I found
The World's Baddest AnimalQuote:
The Bengal Tiger--By far the most impressive of the Big Cats, the Bengal tiger easily overwhelms other creatures close to its kin, moving easily into the BACMT after winning the Baddest Big Cat Cage Match Tournament (BBCCMT) running away. The lion is a pathetic pretender, massively outsized and outworked by the fearsome tiger. Leopards can climb trees, but they're simply too small. These beasts can get up to 12 feet long and 600 pounds. But their advantages are speed and stealth; they can approach in silence and then WHAM! Once the claws are in, it's going to be tough to get away. But can they deal with the sheer bulk of the elephant and the fierceness of the shark? No way. No freakin' way.
Mountain Gorilla--A sentimental favorite for many, and certainly the smartest of the contestants, the African mountain gorilla is a tough competitor. Incredibly strong, fast, and strategically smart, the mountain gorilla is a grappler at heart. Once his hands are on you, you're done for. The Tiger v. Gorilla matchup would be one for the ages, with strength and smarts battling strength and speed. My good friend Brad Thompson once commented that the Gorilla would surely win this Clash of the Titans, ostensibly by "tearing the face of the tiger in half." Powerful imagery. Thanks, Brad. Points against the Gorilla for its vegetarianism.
Hello Gawain of Orkeny,Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Yes. Such a target will be easier to get too. The easier, the less energy they have to invest. It's a bad idea to burn 1,000 calories in a hunt to win only 20 (that would be quite a light product, I know). They hunt for survival in those cases, not for fun.
Unlike us who hunt for sport and take out the fit in many cases. No fun in hunting the young, the small and the sick for us.
By the way has it occured to any of you that the Elephant is the real king of beasts with maybe the Rhino coming in a clsoe 2nd? Big and bad as they are I cant see any cat taking on a full grown male african elephant or big Rhino. Or anything else messing with them either.
Let's not forget the hippo.
I heard that they cause more death then other animals.