In Vermont, nascent secession movement gains traction

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Do NOT let the accent and the "ya'lls" fool you.

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No way. But come on. Were talking New York here. I dont care where in the world you are from you better make sure you still have your shorts after doing bussiness with one of us. We can rip you off and have you smiling at the same time thinking you just got the greatest deal in the world. :help: New Yorkers run at a faster pace than the rest of the nation. Im shocked every time I go to Calif and see how laid back they are there. We are the economic capital of the world. And I might add have the best pizza in the world :laugh4:

Ive lived and been all around the US and no state has people like New Yorkers. Especially those in the city.

But whos better isnt the point. New York could do fine on its own as could most states.

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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

And I might add have the best pizza in the world :laugh4:

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You must not be referring to Brooklyn pizza, 'cause that stuff is nasty. Limp, greasy, pillsbury dough-boy crust ... ugh. I had to swear off pizza for the eight years I lived there.

You want good pizza, try Chicago.

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You want good pizza, try Chicago.

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You have to be kidding thats not pizza. But Im not going too insult it . Its good in its own way. Sort of a mix between neopolatain and sicilian . New York in reality invented pizza and made it popular in the US.

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Originally Posted by Don Corleone

I disagree completely. Utterly. No basis in truth, whatsoever. If anything, maple trees here in New Hampshire are the product of wholesome, traditional forestry services. Many foresters even carry a bible on them. As a result, the maple trees grow up more well adjusted and more prepared to perform the duties society requires of them, namely producing sap.

In Vermont, you go back and forth between ignoring your trees, what with your high-times parties with your buddies to trying to soothe your own guilt by spoiling them rotten, giving them the latest new fangled fertilizer. Your trees have no sense of responsibility and grow up to be rotten producers, if they ever produce at all. You have no work ethic and therefore you have no work ethic to pass on to your trees.

We in New Hampshire believe in doing things the way they've always been done. The time honored tradition of the nuclear forestry program, dating back to the golden age of the 1950s. Our trees know what's expected of them from an early age, and they are brought up knowing if they don't do it, there's no safety net. We give them wholesome environments and we even make certain that James Dobson comes out to read to them at least twice a year.

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Don't you see Don that's the whole problem! You people are too caught up in societal norms to realize that wackiness leads to inspiration, and inspiration leads to better maple syrup, and ice cream flavors. Where would the world be today without Ben and Jerries having an ice cream flavor suitable for everyone outside of vegans? How can you argue with the taste explosion offered by such combinations as Coffee Heath Bar Crunch, Half Baked, or Caramel Sutra???

Anyway we respect your differences and are completely unbothered by your insistence as citizens of New Hampshire to remain a square state that allows us to buy fireworks and smuggle them back into our own state for illegal pleasures. Maybe someday New Hampshire will stop trying to fit in and just go it's own way like Vermont has chosen to do, until then we'll keep pondering independence in between bong hits (for the half of Vermont that are hippies) and look to the stars in search of new ideas.


Oh yeah and my serious opinion about Vermont seeking independence, at this point only a fringe group is considering independence and like the town that attempted to secede to New Hampshire last year (or the year before? Or sometime this decade??) there's almost no chance that anything serious will come of it unless the US as a whole continues to move away from Vermont's core values of peace and equality. Which even our republicans generally support. I suggest nobody from out of state tries to understand Vermont, it's like the twilight zone there, but in a good way.

Oh yeah and in my year away I've finally learned to really enjoy and respect the show put on by our trees every fall, there's nothing like a year in a land with much less impressive foliage to make you respect your own. But I still hate leaf-peepers. (leaf-peepers are tourists that clog up our roads every fall because they want to view our leaves)

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Originally Posted by Lemur

You must not be referring to Brooklyn pizza, 'cause that stuff is nasty. Limp, greasy, pillsbury dough-boy crust ... ugh. I had to swear off pizza for the eight years I lived there.

You want good pizza, try Chicago.

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Ok, first the slight to one of our two great syrup producing states and now this... Such blatant disrespect cannot go unpunished. I might have to contact some relatives of the silk suit persuasion to set you straight.

I don't know where you were in Brooklyn (I'm guessing Williamsburg or the Heights?) but the best NY pizza is typically found in Bensonhurst, Dyker Heights and Bay Ridge. Staten Island might be a good bet now that the place is polluted with Italians. The best pizza I ever had was made just around the corner from where I live, it was run by an Italian couple that made their own sauce which tasted like tomato flavored heaven. Tragically they sold the business and retired decades ago... :sad:

The key is to stick to the places run by real Italians who either make their own sauce or their own dough. Another key is to sample all the local pizzerias to get an idea which ones make the best regular slices, sicilian slices, calzones, rolls, etc. Unfortunately too many places, Italian run or otherwise, buy ALL their ingredients from vendors, this includes pre-made sauce and dough... blech.

Wow I cant believe it. I was looking for my favorite Pizza place on the net and found this

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Chicago vs. New York Pizza Throwdown

pizza85 The competition is hotter than a brick oven when pizzerias from the Windy City and the Big Apple battle each other to see who makes the best pizza, with three celebrity judges picking the winner!

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And the winner was my favorite pizza place

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Thats just the promo for the show . Hers the winner and the best pizza in the world. I cant go to Queens without stopping there.

http://www.gabyspizza.com/BISA-GABYSfinal.jpg

You want pizza to die for this is it. This place has been here fo rover 40 years and they still hardly speak english.
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The key is to stick to the places run by real Italians who either make their own sauce or their own dough.

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You mean and their own dough. And people the secret of NYC pizza is in the water.

Everybody knows that Rachel Ray is guilty of NYC bias. Bias, I say! Bias!

My true feelings about Chicago vs. NYC pizza are complicated, but I wasn't ready to go into them in-depth in a thread derail. I'll boil it down to this: In Chi-town, getting a good pizza is easy. In NYC, it's too damn complicated. The corner stores bake absolute junk, and the good places generally don't deliver.

Frankly, I love Brooklyn and I love Chicago. So viva Brooklyn! Viva Chicago!

If you've never had Carmen's stuffed spinach pizza, though, you haven't lived.

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The corner stores bake absolute junk,

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No they make the best. Gabbys is a plain old pizza place. Nothing fancy not even a dinning room.

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If you've never had Carmen's stuffed spinach pizza, though, you haven't lived.
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http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...B_enUS222US222

You call that pizza? Oh my.

Ah, Pizza war, now that's the stuff the Backroom is for. :2thumbsup:

I hate goddam Nevada. Not a single good food to boast about. :shame:

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Originally Posted by AntiochusIII

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I hate goddam Nevada. Not a single good food to boast about. :shame:

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You've got strip clubs and gambling though.

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Originally Posted by doc_bean

You've got strip clubs and gambling though.

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You can't eat that!!!

Well, technically...

Ahem.