The incredible evil plot of the evil beersalesmen [Concluded]

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Originally Posted by Andres

@Stig : what happens if there is a tie at the end of the day?

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No lynch, ties make sure games take longer and longer, and the longer they take the more people that drop out.

Vote:abstain No one suspicious

He said i had only made one post, signing up. I am in the top 5 for activity, and i pride myself on that :bow:

So far, I am defending against a gut feeling which hasnt been explained (most likely GH is working/asleep), a "weak" vote on Omanes who pulls a role grab early? and not being happy about being called inactive...oh yes, lynch me now...

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

He said i had only made one post, signing up. I am in the top 5 for activity, and i pride myself on that :bow:

So far, I am defending against a gut feeling which hasnt been explained (most likely GH is working/asleep), a "weak" vote on Omanes who pulls a role grab early? and not being happy about being called inactive...oh yes, lynch me now...

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Not quite, almost. Add to that that you've responded really quickly to my vote. :beam: It is somewhat strange that you've responded so quickly when you said twice in previous posts that not much is happening at this stage.

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Originally Posted by Stig

No lynch, ties make sure games take longer and longer, and the longer they take the more people that drop out.

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In that case:

Vote : pevergreen

I prefer a lynching over no lynch.

Tally:

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Greaterkhaan 1 (CountA)
No Lynch 2 (Xdeath, WH)
pevergreen 3 (GH, Faust, Andres)
Dutch_guy 1 (Gkhaan)
GvI 1 (Tran)
Ichigo 1 (Roadkill)
Sasaki 1 (Ichigo)
Omanes 1 (pever)

one more hour for people to vote, just so you know it

Forgot to bold my vote.

Vote : pevergreen

pevergreen, I am relying on my usual tactic - reverse logic! If I was mafia would I have asked for role information to arouse suspicion over myself - probably not?

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Originally Posted by Andres

You are very active. It seems out of character.

Change of style or too much time on your hands in the summer holidays?

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Summer holidays. And for what it's worth, I am not very active ~;)

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Hold up. Why are we bandwagoning off of me?

To extend the voting period...

Unvote: pevergreen
Vote: Ichigo

Right Pever got lynched, going to do a write up now, but just so you know, you can start sending your PMs.

Night 2 has started

Curse you GH :furious3:

no-one got lynched, night still started, write up, for what it's worth, to follow

Okay, now that I've got my vote in I'm going to explain my rationale.

I voted pevergreen off a gut feeling just from viewing the first kill writeup. Since Stig said he pretty much did the writeups himself I really had nothing to work with.

-edit- Waitaminute, I just read Stig's description regarding ties.

Unvote: Ichigo
Vote: pevergreen

It's too late now, your 19:02 post came before I posted. But this one is too late, Pevergreen is lucky

Sorry everyone, I was unaware of Stig's tie policy until it was too late. :sorry:

FWIW, Sigurd, I remember exactly what a nuisance you were in Graffiti after you were whacked early on.

I'd also like to hear a legit defense from greaterkhaan.

Day 1 has ended

The barman of the Red Lion stands.
"Right, you have all been voting for the person you think is a Heineken salesmen. And, because of some last minute vote shifting I will have to disappoint you. No-one will be kicked out of town today. One of you decided that a tie might have been better, and although he complained and complained to me he was to late to change his vote back. So, a round from the man who made sure we were not going to have great night, you pay GH!" ~:cheers: ~:cheers:

Tally:

pevergreen 2 (Faust, Andres)
No Lynch 2 (Xdeath, WH)
Ichigo 2 (Roadkill, GH)
Dutch_guy 1 (Gkhaan)
GvI 1 (Tran)
Sasaki 1 (Ichigo)
Omanes 1 (pever)
Greaterkhaan 1 (CountA)
Shlin 1 (DG)
Abstains 3 (Omanes, Beefy, Prole)
Not voting 6 (GvI, Lorenzo, Sasaki, Seamus, Shlin, TBlade)

To be expecting an angry PM: Lorenzo, Shlin, Tblade, Caius (Sasaki has been posting, Seamus and Lorenzo are inactive, so sending them a pm wouldn't matter)

Gah!

I made late to the discussion, but Im trying to be active

Sorry about being inactive but I've been unable to log on for a couple days.

Apologies for not participating. I've been away at a funeral (great aunt, though effectively my grandmom). Active again as of night two.

Well, I seem to have caught a lucky break.
I responded quickly to your vote, as i was on at that time :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

He said i had only made one post, signing up. I am in the top 5 for activity, and i pride myself on that :bow:

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I was correct in my statement.
At the time GH posted his vote for you, you had only one post in the entire thread; your initial sign in post. That you posted several times after that makes my claim no less true.

GH posted based on a gut feeling even though you hadn't made a single post other than:
"and you can expect a post saying that im in." And that was before the roles were assigned.

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Originally Posted by Stig

Roles:
-Ofcourse we will have the 3 mafia, the Heineken salesmen.
-Next to that there will be a doctor role, but the name of the role will remain unknown.
-And a detective role, but this name will also remain unknown.
-Next to that there will be some "weak" villagers, they won't leave town out of embarrassment, no they will join the salesmen.
-And we'll have a couple of totally unknown pro-town roles (not that much, don't be frightened) and these will remain completely unknown for everyone who doesn't have such a role.

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A doctor... what do you do? stock someones fridge with good beer? and then the beersalesmen have no chance of selling their evil stuff?

Alright... we have a detective.
May I suggest that you investigate GH this night.

The weak villages... will Stig even mention a conversion in his narration?

What do you mean by your wording of the unknown roles; these will remain completely unknown for everyone who doesn't have such a role.
Are they informed of eachother? Do one of these roles know of the other roles?

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will Stig even mention a conversion in his narration?

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He will

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Are they informed of eachother? Do one of these roles know of the other roles?

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Nope and nope, there are a couple of special roles, but only the people that have such a role know about that certain role.

I posted on the first page that I would not be on for Tuesday or Wednesday, so eh... no angry pm for me please??? :embarassed:

I have updated my spreadsheet and I am sorry to inform you that the result of day one is incorrect.

the right tally should be:

pevergreen 2 (Faust, Andres)

Dutch_guy 1 (Gkhaan)
GvI 1 (Tran)
Greaterkhaan 1 (CountA)
Ichigo 1 (GH)
Omanes 1 (pever)
Sasaki 1 (Ichigo)
Shlin 1 (DG)

Abstains 3 (Omanes, Beefy, Prole, RoadKill)
No Lynch 2(Xdeath, WH)
Not voting 6 (GvI, Lorenzo, Sasaki, Seamus, Shlin, TBlade)

I guess no-one saw RoadKill's change from Ichigo to Abstain (posted 17:20)
And since the rules don't mention the unvote, vote: thing, RoadKill's vote is valid.

Sigurd, it doesn't change anything.

There would still be a tie between pevergreen and no lynch.
And that would be no lynch.

hmm... I guess you are right Warmaster.

Which leads to my next question.
Why are you and Xdeath voting No Lynch?
It is obstructing the course of the game and not quite helpful. It can be used as a tool in the endgame but right now the mafia can sit laughing because they are not threathened. There is a slight chance to lynch a mafia in every round.
What if GH is right about pevergreen?
If you don't want to participate in a lynching vote abstain.

I agree with Sigurd on that.

"No lynch" won't help us. If you don't have a clue, please just vote abstain.

It's pretty random at this stage of the game, but we still have a decent chance to lynch a mafioso; 1/7 is not that bad.

I simply used the latest tally, as I thought that was correct (and I added DG's vote which people forgot) ... but then as WM said it doesn't matter

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I posted on the first page that I would not be on for Tuesday or Wednesday, so eh... no angry pm for me please???

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Heheh, sorry m8, I forgot.

Haven't send out the pms anyway, seems like I didn't need to, you turn up, Caius turns up, Seamus finally recieved my pm and Lorenzo is still inactive as it seems. Only Tblade to show up.

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

looks like im screwed for this game, with GH having a gut feeling against me.

Not much has happened so far, but i can assure you that if i was mafia, Twilight would have died.

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I can see how you were correct, this hardly qualifies as a post at all...:sweatdrop: