No, I think Arnold should be going nuclear so its cool.
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No, I think Arnold should be going nuclear so its cool.
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Originally Posted by Privateerkev
That's refreshing to hear. I was expecting the anti Outremer edge to it causing more issues.
No, Arnold was right. Outremer was built by the Houses sacrificing its people and money. And some in Outremer, like Jan, have not been grateful enough. So, his speech had an edge to it but it should have an edge to it. :yes:
Ok then...it seems I have managed to balance the situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateerkev
Here is my thoughts on it. With econ's permission, we should ignore that part of the CA with regards to Arnold. He should be allowed to just need Edmund to second ducal edicts. Arnold should not be forced to rely on other electors for seconds. Nor should he have to use other people's edicts. Arnold is not big on handouts and he shouldn't need one in this case. :yes:
PK is correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateerkev
His entry is missing "Understands Trade" (GoodTrader 1) and is incorrect with "AspiringCommander" (GoodCommander 2) which should be "Promising Commander".
TC, can you please make sure that you have the fixes installed correctly and working?
Very funny story Ituralde. I hope your RL vacation is just as good.
Gotta have a reason for the Emperor to be away. :2thumbsup:
And I hope this is some water on the mills of those, that didn't like Siegfreid in the first place. That along with his rather short and businesslike message to the Diet. I know we don't like using proxies, but I hope you can live with it this time.
Cheers!
Ituralde
All I got to say is....
O_O
Believe me guys, no one is more surprised than me...
I figured Jan would get it eventually but damn...
Surprising, but also that Siegfried decided to strike down 11.6 which passed with almost the same margin (albeit very slightly lower) than 9.1.
Considering that 11.6 is an extension of the part of 9.1 (i.e. amending it), how can he actually take it from the charter?
Yeah, I'm trying to make sense of it but my head is still swimming...
:dizzy2:
Can someone give me the presidential summary of all that overriding!!??
And please keep it to 4 sentences or less if humanly possible?
According to what the Kaiser said,
CA 11.6 is gone. Period.
CA 11.3 is still there.
The part about the King having 3 personal edicts (which came from CA 11.4) is gone
The rest of the stuff that CA 11.4 bestowed is still there like Duke influence and Counts only getting influence from one county
So PK
If CA 11.6 is gone what is the wording covering the King's position?
The second impact is the King of Outremer has only three Outremer edicts and not six?
Yes, only 3 edicts, and according to Ituralde, King appointments are only per diet session and not for life.
The last part probably could use some confirming from TC who knows more about wordings and legalities on whether Siegfried could remove 11.6 even though it does not directly interfere with 9.1 (you can still appoint every diet, but the appointment lasts for life)
Appointment of the King goes back to this:
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4. The Kingdom will be overseen by a King of Outremer, who will be appointed by the Emperor at each full Diet session.
And the King has 3 house edicts that need two Crusader Counts to second. The three personal edicts are now gone.
Well slap me in the belly with a wet fish!!
The Kaiser, on his bed of porn and pot has the most blinding series of common sense ideas I've seen a quite some time.
Maybe I should get over to Constantinople for a hit!! :yes:
I'm just scared of what the Kaiser is going to ask of Jan in the future... :laugh4:
Well, power comes with a price...
So basically, the Kaiser just called from his vacation, saying what a great time he was having while we're all slaving away and then gives us a few more projects to work on.
My brain hurts.
Oligarchy anyone? :laugh4:
If I ever become the Emperor then I can tell you it will be a hell of a ride for everyone.
I'm suprised no-one stood up against the fact Jan is King yet, sides Arnold is overreacting, it's not like other houses have children, atleast Austria has Zirn. ~D
I have the feeling that Ituralde is just starting...
o_O
*edit*
stood up against it? that part at least is pretty clear cut. ^_^
Glad to see that my post is received so well. :beam:
I forgot to mention, that this could be the last time that I'm online for the next week. If you don't hear from me by Monday, don't expect to hear from me until next Sunday.
So while of course Siegfried does not want to hear anything from the Diet, I also can't, so it would just look weir if Siegfried were there but didn't answer.
If questions arise however, this is all done under Charter 5.4. :yes:
Well mate it was a near thing that the King of Outremer is elected for life and renouces all alligences to his House.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stig
That would leave no kids and two married in laws as all that is left of Austria
And it's too easy for you to say when you have 6 active avatars.
Is that 5.4 or 5.5? The Prinz is deputising then?
I'm amused that people are arguing that Jan should be King for life. :laugh4:
And yeah AG, this just took a load off of Arnold's back. Can you imagine when NN comes back? To find out that King Salier died, Karl was made kind of king by Ebelhard only to have it overturned by the Kaiser who made Jan King.
awesome...
hmm... this seems like the most active weekend diet session I have ever seen.
He means,Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieGiant
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5.4 The Emperor adjudicates on rules disputes.
Or maybe he wants to be overthrown :inquisitive:
But I think he meant 5.5 which means the Prince takes over when the emperor isn't there.
The Prince made clear that the Kaiser could come in and overturn everything he said as Steward. And, he did. :laugh4:
Just for clarification: I meant 5.4: The Emperor adjudicates on rules disputes.
Of course the Prince is responsible to keep peace in the Diet, but he doesn't have any powers of the Emperor beyond that.
And now, I'm really gone! :beam: