Christmas Mafia :) [Concluded]

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Originally Posted by Charge

O! Probably you forgot your previous role here :laugh4: , so far my roles 3/1 town/mafia as you know;

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Sorry, but I somehow forgot that occasion.

Regardless of my misjudgment, you seemed fairly naive for much of that game. This something which you do not appear to be here. Is this due to an increase in experience, or due to your role as a mafioso?

Another thing which arouses my doubts over your innocence is that you seem to be constantly proclaiming the fact that you are pro-town in all of your more recent posts. Doing this is a tactic which I would expect a mafioso to use.

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Originally Posted by Charge

however your suspicion against me and CA, seems very scummy to me.

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I have not mentioned anything against CountArach yet. I have however, mentioned your attempted framing of him in a previous post of yours.

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Originally Posted by Charge

BTW, can you explain 3 gifts you had gave Andres on round 1, and now claiming him mafioso?

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That was just random voting. As you may expect, there was no rational reasoning hidden behind it.

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Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites

From observations so far, the next round, I strongly advise against protecting Andres. His inquisitorial self has melted away, only posting fairly off-topic remarks. When he does vote, he also fails to supply a reason, which worries me a little.

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Well, he did say that he wouldn't post much until January 15, but I think we shouldn't give Andres so many presents.

Sapi, does the Christmas mafia hitlist change or is it the same from the first round when they turned it in. Also, from what I read from the rules, it seems the mafia is invincible if they put themselves on the bottom of the list. The only way to lynch the mafia is to select one person for lynching and give everyone else a present, but we should expect some collateral damage. Hopefully that person will turn out to be a mafioso and not an innocent townie.

So, Who should we isolate next dayphase and not give any gifts?

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Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites

Sorry, but I somehow forgot that occasion.

Regardless of my misjudgment, you seemed fairly naive for much of that game. This something which you do not appear to be here. Is this due to an increase in experience, or due to your role as a mafioso?

Another thing which arouses my doubts over your innocence is that you seem to be constantly proclaiming the fact that you are pro-town in all of your more recent posts. Doing this is a tactic which I would expect a mafioso to use.

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Well, firstly, I'm not a mafioso (as I haven't received any pm saying this, infact I didn't receive any pm at all); experience - certainly, but how it can be linked with being a mafioso? They, as far as I know, tends to be more silent...Not? Just like people claimed Cheetah as mafioso in Brotherhood cause he posted a lot...

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Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites

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however your suspicion against me and CA, seems very scummy to me.

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I have not mentioned anything against CountArach yet. I have however, mentioned your attempted framing of him in a previous post of yours.

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BTW, can you explain 3 gifts you had gave Andres on round 1, and now claiming him mafioso?

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That was just random voting. As you may expect, there was no rational reasoning hidden behind it.

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I quite not understand meaning of word 'framing' here..:(
I have seen him attempting to do obviously pro-town actions, thus think he's innocent. Your doubts about my role also makes him suspicious, as it seems like me (mafioso) protecting another mafioso...

Andres already had 3 gifts at moment you was voting, means he's ok, but you suddenly gave him whole 3 presents. Why? No other choices?

I'm curious about mafia abilities, can they kill townies or just that 'christmas list'? ie who was that 'thing'...

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Originally Posted by Charge

I'm curious about mafia abilities, can they kill townies or just that 'christmas list'? ie who was that 'thing'...

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Maybe it was the Santa role, that Sapi was talking about although I thought Santa would have probably been a doctor/detective role.

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Originally Posted by Draco Leman

Maybe it was the Santa role, that Sapi was talking about although I thought Santa would have probably been a doctor/detective role.

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Indeed Santa-Heart Collector.....

"the only known role" - maybe there are hidden roles as well?

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Originally Posted by Draco Leman

So, Who should we isolate next dayphase and not give any gifts?

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I think that Omanes raises a good point, we should perhaps consider getting rid of our green friend Mr Andres.

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Originally Posted by CountArach

I think that Omanes raises a good point, we should perhaps consider getting rid of our green friend Mr Andres.

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Why would you want to get rid of me?

Because I celebrated the beginning of a New Year? Is that suspicious?

Yes, the Org is more important :wink:

But seriously, you have been acting vastly differently to how you usually do.

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Originally Posted by CountArach

Yes, the Org is more important :wink:

But seriously, you have been acting vastly differently to how you usually do.

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That's true. I have been painting, been doing minor repairs and been moving boxes filled with all sorts of stuff from our sold appartement to our newly bought house. I also celebrated Christmas and New Year in between.

Usually, I'm sitting at a desk or walking around with papers trying to look busy and important, picking my nose and making posts at the Org :grin:

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Originally Posted by Draco Leman

So, Who should we isolate next dayphase and not give any gifts?

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I say we give everyone one present and see what happens.

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

I say we give everyone one present and see what happens.

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See what? mafia ok in this case - lynched will be the one accordingly to their list btw..

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Originally Posted by Charge

See what? mafia ok in this case - lynched will be the one accordingly to their list btw..

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I'll explain once the voting phase starts.

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

I'll explain once the voting phase starts.

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Please do because I am still confused on the receiving end of the gifts and the list. The question asked does the list get modified or is it the original from day 1?
It would appear the gift giving protects a limited number rather then trying to eliminate suspected mafia members.
If everyone received a gift it would have to be an even amount for everyone and would take some cooperation and coordination to ensure that happens.

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Sapi, does the Christmas mafia hitlist change or is it the same from the first round when they turned it in.

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They can change it whenever they want ~:)

On this night, if not all, the echoes of the wind above the cobblestone streets went some way to drowning out the sound of her swift progress through the air. Swinging her broomstick around a corner, the cloaked woman riding it let out a sigh, and dismounted.

Consulting her map, she turned, identified the right house, and began to mount her broom once again. But it was too late; she had been seen. Peasant Phill stood watching her from his doorway, mouth agape at the dark figure in the sooty cloak standing in his street. He remained that way as she waked up to him, removed the rubber end from her broomstick, and ran him through.

Now safely anonymous, she jumped back on the broom and continued her rounds.

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Upon waking in time for his afternoon nap, sapi strolled downstairs to find two stockings hanging near his fireplace.

Curious, he opened them both. At first glance, they both contained the same thing - a candy cane, and a small slip of paper - but upon further examination, they were slightly different.

Written on the first was the phrase "9T8 YD8", and on the second, "843 G85".

"What a load of codswallop", he said, chucking the paper in the bin, "I'm too busy for such nonsense".

Sucking on the candy canes, he returned to bed, thoroughly exhausted.

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The day phase lasts until 1100 GMT tomorrow ~:)

REMEMBER PEOPLE - GIVE 1 TO EVERYONE

Give: Ichigo
Give: Kommodus
Give: Charge

Give: CA
Give: Andres
Give: Draco

Curoiously awaiting your explanation Ichigo,

Give:Northnovas
Give:Omanes
Give:Lord Winter

Still don't know why this would do anything but only these people left, so only one more person should vote:
FactionHeir
Tiberius
Woad&Fangs

I hope this proves my innocence Kommodus ;).

Maybe better this way, the new system required a lot more work and I didn't have that extra time for the moment.

*Waits Ichigo

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Originally Posted by Peasant Phill

I hope this proves my innocence Kommodus ;).

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I'm not so sure about this. As it seems for me to be like somebody' independant actions...

Give:FactionHeir
Give:Tiberius
Give:Woad&Fangs

That covers everyone for one gift.

I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE REASONING FOR 1 VOTE

Lynched will be townie! No chances for mafioso!

+ if you going to do this, you forgot BSR.

Give : BSR

Alright I guess an explanation is in order. This should tell us who is number one on the mafia's list. Which will give us a good look at what kind of player the mafia is depending on who is lynched. It may seem somewhat farfetched but it makes perfect sense. Hope this explanation helps and you all understand why I suggested it. I just hope that the mafia can't change their list halfway through a round that would be bad. Can you confirm that sapi?

That idea makes you look innocent and scummy at the same time..
Maybe as you says, or maybe just to lynch one of most 'dangerous' townies, in hope that others will not use it properly;

Though last part about changing makes me go with former. If they can change it now, no way - we gotta to re-vote and isolate one person after discussion.

Actually I was fairly sure that this would be what Ichigo was planning. I don't see how it makes him scummy. Sure, we get rid of whoever the Mafia want, which helps to give us a confirmed innocent. On the other hand, as he said, we can analyse the kill closely and then make an educated decision next round.

But if we get the feeling that they have changed their list, then we can take the assumption that they are fairly active, whioch should cut down the list even further.

A good plan, far better than just taking another shot in the dark looking for a mafioso. This might actually give us something to base our suspicions off of.

That's why I was asking sapi if the mafia could switch their list mid-round. If they can then it's a waste of time, but if not it would be a big help for the town. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

That's why I was asking sapi if the mafia could switch their list mid-round. If they can then it's a waste of time, but if not it would be a big help for the town. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

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However if YOU actually mafia, then it's a waste of time in any case - you had 'needed' list long time before..

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Originally Posted by Charge

However if YOU actually mafia, then it's a waste of time in any case - you had 'needed' list long time before..

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You seem like you're not a big fan of my plan. Seems pretty scummy to me :inquisitive: