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HT for dictator of Scandinavia. UNITE THEM!!!!
My first act as dictator will be to force the swedish royals to do nudie-pics!
Carl Gustav should pass.. :inquisitive:
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Originally Posted by Sarmatian
So because they are of the same ethnicity as a people of another nation, they cannot own their own land?
I am, of course, only talking about the two princesses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
Not sure I agree with this, although I am sure I don't know all the facts.
I reckon if this keeps up you'll soon have as many countries are there pubs where the idea can be thought up while "Putting the world to rights"
Yes, as of this morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by CountArach
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A fragmentation of Kosovo herself in expectable, unhopefully following a mini civil war/attempted genocide.
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http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/1.4876231
Norway will recognise Kosovo.
You expect me to be a mind reader, or what? ~DQuote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
OK, so based on your posts, I take it you are in support of micro fragmentation of nations. Why, may I ask?Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
It is silly by the Kosovars to split up, but if it is what they want, the Serbs are no one to stop them; I am advocating local democracy. On a side note, I think maybe splitting up is a good solution for many African countries who go through an endless amount of of ethnical civil wars.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrossLOPER
Only to replace civil wars with more traditional ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
Not at the expense of other peoples land, no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
Kosovo doesn't belond to Albanians alone. Kosovo belongs to all 10 million people living in Serbia. It belongs to Serbs, Hungarians, Albanians, Slovaks, Ruthenians, Germans, Croats... To everyone. We have all paid taxes for development of Kosovo in the last 50 years. We have all bleed for it in the last 100 years. Serbia still pays 100,000 euros every day on account of interest for foreign loans taken specifically for Kosovo (even in the last 8 years when Serbia wasn't able to collect taxes from Kosovo). You just can't create an almost mono-ethnic region by ethnic cleansing and intimidation. And it wasn't just Serbs that where victims of that in Kosovo. All minorities were subject to that treatment, even Turks and Bosniaks (who are also muslim). They all have to same right as Albanians. Albanian don't have any special right because they are the majority in that particular area...
Dark-age style border raids? Count me in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
I see what you are trying to suggest, but the details eat away at that form of action.
I'd prefer the traditional state-to-state war over the internal ethnic butchering any day of the week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vladimir
Oh and Sarmatian, both my own and Viking's tax money have gone to you(serbs) and Kosovo.
There is some truth in that, but Kosovo has also paid their taxes to Serbia I assume. There are mutual interests, and there will always be so when new nations declare their independence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarmatian
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Originally Posted by HoreTore
The states should loose some tax revenue from their enemies and thus even the balance in the region; typically one ethnicity/religion is backed by the state military wise.
War between two different countries are easier to handle; how many international wars are going on in Africa at the moment? Isn't it 0?
So they are supposed to go off and colonise another land? I really don't think there are many other country-sized Islands left in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarmatian
Not sure on the Ethiopian/Eritrean/Somali status... But it's not open war in the traditional sense, at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
Also, traditional wars are a lot easier for an international community to intervene in, for example in the gulf war(Saddam attacking kuwait, the US shoving them back). But international forces usually makes a mess whenever they try to sort out internal conflicts...
Two-mile? You've never been to Belgium I take it, most of the communities on the language border aren't even two miles wide. None would want to give up so many land to these Belgo-Turks:grin3:Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
You really need to learn how to think outside the box.Quote:
Originally Posted by CountArach
Think about it.... most of the land around the world belongs to a governing entity. What about the area high above? Not quite in Earth's orbit, but close to it. Floating landmasses.
Also, if they fall they'll probably kill everyone on and underneath so it works out all the same in the end. :beam:
Ok, I'm confused.
What are these Belgo-Turks?!
A delightful collection of Turkish delight covered in Belgian Chocolate ready for consumption? mmmmm... Multi-ethic confectionary.
Doesn't all this set a dangerous precedent for confectionary based on purely ethnic lines?
The Australia vs New Zealand Pavlova wars I think is one of these confectionery wars.
Was that the Battle of the Bulge?Quote:
Originally Posted by Papewaio
“You really need to learn how to think outside the box”: True. :laugh4: President Tudjman from Croatia when face to the dilemma what to do with the Serbs living in Croatia just said to sent them to the Moon… At the end, they were “ethnic-cleaned” after Oluje, under the view of all the Nations which are actually recognising Kosovo. Well you have politically correct ethnic cleansing and not PC. You have unchangeable Recognised International Borders (Croatia, Bosnia) and the ones which are not (Serbia).
The Albanians can’t live with the Serbs in Serbia, but the Serbs can live with the Albanians in Kosovo. They have a different history from the Serbs of Serbia “proper”?:inquisitive:
We just came back to the Treaty of Trianon, when the good old powers divided the spoils of war…
Good enough but stop the ultimate hypocrisy pretending to do so in the name of democracy and freedom: Your democracy stop where mine started…
It is just the continuation of the “bomb the Serbs” policy initiated 10 years (err, more, time is flying…) ago.:yes:
Body found in torched US embassy
I wonder what the Chinese will have to say about this? :inquisitive:Quote:
A CHARRED body was found in the US Embassy in Belgrade after protesters smashed their way into the building in anger at Kosovo's independence and set the building on fire, a US official has said.
"All US personnel have been accounted for," said a US official. He had no details on the nationality or identity of the body.
The US ambassador to the United Nations said earlier that he was "outraged" by the storming of the embassy.
They will probably say ..."someone burned your embassy in Belgrade , you lucky lucky bastards , some bugger bombed our embassy in Belgrade"~;)Quote:
I wonder what the Chinese will have to say about this?
I'm well aware of the size of Belgium! 4 Hexes in 3R, about 14 across in 1914, 1 cavalry move in XGM...Quote:
Originally Posted by Conradus
I'm well aware that my profferred solution has a few "practicality" issues. Therefore, I say leave it all up to Andres to decide. :devilish:
"wonder what the Chinese will have to say about this?" What did the Serbs to protect it? :laugh4:
So, it is International Laws and duties to protect an Embassy which bomb and rip you off your territory... Candy Rice should get a grip... USA and others followers open a huge breach in International laws and now want the same Treaties , Agreements and usages to apply again. :oops:
Looks like another genocide on the balkans is beginning.
Great.
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This whole drama will just increase the deathly disease, which is nationalism in the Balkans, especially in Serbia, and harden the ways of the handful people that are not stricken by the disease over there. :no:
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Balkans are always good for a laugh. This isn't going to end well :no: