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The Pontic War continued, with Sp. Octauius and Mn. Caesar fighting the Eastern King across Asia and into the Caucasus Mountains. Octauius hoped that the glory he accrued on campaign would cause the Senate to forget any charges of illegal warfare they might level against him for commanding an Army of the Res Publica sine imperio. Such was not the case however, as defying the Senate combined with his populist politics and made most of the Senate bitterly resent him. Finally the war reached its climax, when Caesar was attacked as he besieged Armauir. At this point his army was a skeleton of its former self. Were they raw recruits they would certainly have fallen. Thankfully, every man of them had been toughened by the long war and after a struggle they repulsed the attack and took the city. Now Pontus was effectively cut in half, with the western portion in Cilicia and the Eastern portion in the Northern Caucasus. Within a few weeks, Octauius had driven the Pontici from Colchis as well, and in the weakened state of the Pontic Kingdom, the two generals were able to resupply and retrain their men. At this point, the two agreed that the Pontici were weakened enough to no longer require eight legions. They advised the Senate as such, and the Senate, assuming that Octauius would soon be returning to them, agreed. However Octauius had no desire to return and suffer a potential prosecution. He entreated Caesar to go back in his stead and let him take over the war. Caesar, for his part, desired a Consulship. He also knew that his brother, Decimus, was running for the Aedileship and could use the support of a war hero in his campaign. Thus the chance to return was a perfect opportunity for him, and the two agreed that Octauius would remain on campaign against Pontus with his four legions, while Caesar would return to Rome. This was only a temporary solution, however, as the war could only continue for so long, and if, when it ended, Octauius had not reconciled the Senate to his command, he would have to either return to a prosecution in Rome or remain overseas in a self-imposed exile. That was assuming he actually agreed to give up his legions, however...
It was around this time that the Proconsul, Tb. Aemilius Paullus died. The war in Egypt had been surprisingly brief. After taking Alexandreia and Memphis from the Seleucids, Paullus sensibly realized that it was unwise to put himself geographically in between the warring Hellenistic Kingdoms. Thus he gave the two cities back to the Ptolemies, although he kept Kyrene and Paraitonion for the Senate and the Roman People. For his (admittedly-aborted) increase of the Res Publica, he was awarded a Triumph, and after celebrating in Rome, he returned to Libya to guard the Republic's holdings for the rest of his life. His death was mourned, although many of the Senators privately saw the vacuum created by his death as an opportunity for themselves. Not the least of these was D. Iulius Caesar, the brother of the famed Pontic War general. Seeing a slow early career - he only achieved the office of Quaestor in his mid 30's - Caesar's inspired rhetorical skills, efficient administrative talent and modest military experience from putting down slave revolts made him one of the most influential men, both in the Senate and with the Plebs. Within six years, he had been elected Praetor, although charges of massive electoral bribery were leveled against him several times along the way. In the early months of his Praetorship, news reached Rome: Sp. Octauius had killed King Apsarius of Pontus. The back of the Pontic Kingdom was broken, though there were still several cities that needed to be taken, and the general could expect to be occupied for another couple of years, at best. Time was running out.
D. Caesar observed Octauius' fading political prospects from a distance, but he had his sights set on different issues. The previous Pontifex Maximus, Quintus Caecilius Metellus, had died and the vacant position was an excellent way to advance Caesar's influence. An immediate election was held, into which the ex-Praetor poured countless resources. As he left for The Field of Mars on election day, Caesar quipped to his wife that he would return victorious, or not at all. "You'd divorce me over that?" She asked, blinking. :clown:
On the down side though, the expenses and time devoted to achieving the prestigious priesthood prevented Caesar from mounting a serious campaign for the Consulship, and he abandoned the campaign for the 610th consulship in the city's history. His rivals offered thanks to the gods. But Caesar was not to be put off forever, and two years later he celebrated a victory in the Consular elections, along with the moderate C. Cornelius Scipio. The year of Scipio and Caesar would not be without its troubles. Byzantium saw some minor riots, but this was just the beginning:
In summer of that year the last of the Pontic cities, Tarsus, fell to Sp. Octauius. The Roman world held its breath for several weeks, wondering what the illegal warrior would do, now that he had no enemies left to conquer. Finally, Octauius backed down. Leaving his legions with the local pro-praetor to guard the province, he traveled to Lesbos in self-imposed exile. Caesar and Scipio breathed sighs of relief. There were other successes this year as well: the two consuls worked well together, with the populist Caesar bringing fresh ideas to the office while Scipio advocated for caution. During the year, new corn laws were passed and construction of the Amphitheatrum Cornelium, Rome's first permanent Amphitheater, began in earnest. Late in the year, the provinces awarded to the Consuls were announced. Scipio was given Libya, while Caesar...
Yes, as I'm sure you can tell, I'm trying to have this follow the storyline of the Late Republic (right down to giving Gaul to a Caesar) pretty closely, although I'm giving myself some leeway for changes and some different political situations. I'm too much of a fan of Caesar to leave him out of this, so while I bring him in, I'm going to try to have the civil war work differently. This whole thing has been really fun, role-playing the various generals and writing down what happens for you guys. Hope you like it. -M
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Nice storytelling Mulceber! :2thumbsup:
You should make an AAR or something.
An update on the ΑΡΧΗ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΗ as of 144 BC and the situation on the Eastern front:
When the Persians invaded the Arche's eastern holdings ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΔHΣ swiftly defeated the bulk of the invasion force as well as conquered the Persian homelands and western holdings. He also incorporated the Seleucid holdings into the Arche, even though their leaders were reluctant to submit. When he and his army entered Persepolis he gave order that no plundering was to made in the old Persian capital and that the Tomb of Kyros was not to be defiled. Many officers in the army thought this behaviour to be utmost nonsense, but this sign of respect completely won over the Persian people and ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΔHΣ was hailed as their new Shahanshah, and Baghâbigh and his followers being branded outcasts by their judges. The Persian people never were too found of their Parthian masters as they had treated them as little more than slaves and were forced to fight in the army as infantry cannon fodder, this too worked for the Makedonians benefit who were being hailed as saviours by the populace.
The following day a messanger from ΠΕΛΛΑ arrived in Persepolis. He informed ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΔHΣ that his father had quietly past away in his sleep and that he was now the ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ.
ΝΕΙΚΩΝ ΝΙΚΑΤΩΡ had been the one who finally brought an end to Kart-Hadast, conquered Iberia and secured the western border. He had also started a major number of building projects around the Arche, with excellent road systems and aqueducts surpassing even the Rhômaio in it's perfection. Hellenic culture flourished under his rule and Athenai became a centre of learning and philosophy again and many great plays were set up. He was truly a great leader one who were to be missed by all in the ΑΡΧΗ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΗ.
Even though the Persian homelands were now in the hands of the Makedones, the war continued, for the Parthians would not give up so lightly and so this war of conquest had to continue.
This is the plan: ΣΟΣΙΒΙΟΣ ΦΥΛΛΙΟΣ will guard Iran while ΑΥΛΟΣ ΘΕΣΣΑΛΟΝΙΚΕΥΣ make sure to keep the Parni horsemen away from the northern holdings. (extremely complex plan I know :laugh4:)
While they do that ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΔHΣ will conquer the southern territories which currently only have lightly armed and few troops as garrison.
Some pictures over the most important victories in the war so far:
And yeah comments are appreciated. :bow:
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I'd like to do an AAR, but I fear I wouldn't write in it enough to justify creating one - that's why I like this thread so much. We can all write at our own pace with no pressure and share our conquests with each other. :2thumbsup: If I haven't said it before, thanks for creating this thread, Arthur!
Nice expansion against the Parthians - I especially like the choice to render the names in Ancient Greek (although I just thought I should point out though that Olympiades ) - it adds a great deal of character to the work. And encourages people to learn Ancient Greek! :idea2: Although I'm somewhat curious as to some of the spelling - I would think that Olympiades would end in ης, rather than εσ, and the ph in phyllios seems to have been rendered as π- instead of just φ. Is this an alternative Macedonian dialect or something?:dizzy2: -M
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I'd like to do an AAR, but I fear I wouldn't write in it enough to justify creating one - that's why I like this thread so much. We can all write at our own pace with no pressure and share our conquests with each other. :2thumbsup: If I haven't said it before, thanks for creating this thread, Arthur!
You're welcome! :2thumbsup: I did think of making an AAR of this campaign but it's so similar to MAA AAR so it would just end up as a copy of his masterpiece. And yeah making updates to an AAR all the time can feel quite stressful. It's interesting to note how this thread has evolved from a simple "post a picture of how large your empire is" thread to a "Role-playing semi-AAR kind of thread" which of course is a very positive thing.
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Nice expansion against the Parthians - I especially like the choice to render the names in Ancient Greek (although I just thought I should point out though that Olympiades ) - it adds a great deal of character to the work. And encourages people to learn Ancient Greek! :idea2: Although I'm somewhat curious as to some of the spelling - I would think that Olympiades would end in ης, rather than εσ, and the ph in phyllios seems to have been rendered as π- instead of just φ. Is this an alternative Macedonian dialect or something?:dizzy2: -M
I used this site to get the ancient greek font. Either it's just some glitch at the site or maybe that variant of ancient greek I used was Attic or Ionic. (my knowledge on ancient greek is fairly limited :shame:)
Thanks for the correction though. :bow:
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Ah ok, I think the site just got confused because of the differences between the ancient greek and the latin alphabet (eg. ancient Greek has multiple letters that become "e" in the latin script, also, the letter s is made differently if it's in the body of the word or at the end).
Yeah, I think this thread is a great tool - it's almost like it's for amature AAR writers - people who don't want the pressure of having to write regularly, but who like reporting the history of their empires every once in a while. -M
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Ah ok, I think the site just got confused because of the differences between the ancient greek and the latin alphabet (eg. ancient Greek has multiple letters that become "e" in the latin script, also, the letter s is made differently if it's in the body of the word or at the end).
Good to know, thanks again.
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Yeah, I think this thread is a great tool - it's almost like it's for amature AAR writers - people who don't want the pressure of having to write regularly, but who like reporting the history of their empires every once in a while. -M
I think I'll add a note about this in the OP.
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Hello comrade Arthur! Being a Greek I might be of help with the translations to the ancient greek alphabet. However, keep in mind that I'm not an expert on such things.
Well, Olympiades Argeades would be written: ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΔΗΣ ΑΡΓΕΑΔΗΣ (Mulceber was right). I use capital letters since small letters were introduced quite later in the greek and latin alphabets. Neikon Nikator would become ΝΕΙΚΩΝ ΝΙΚΑΤΩΡ (with Ω instead of O). Thessalonikeus would be ΘΕΣΣΑΛΟΝΙΚΕΥΣ (with Θ instead of T).
I also think that Arche Makedonia (modelled after the Arche Seleukeia) should be altered. Because Seleukeia can be a noun (the name of the city) but initially it was an adjective: it means "of Seleukos" or rather "Seleukeian". Therefore, since Makedonia is strictly a noun, I'd suggest Arche Makedonia to be named Arche Makedonias (of Makedonia- genitive form) or Arche Makedonike (Makedonian - adjective). In the greek alphabet it would then become ΑΡΧΗ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑΣ or ΑΡΧΗ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΗ. I believe hellenistic kingdoms were not named after the ethnicities of the inhabitants, so we should stay clear of the name Arche Makedonon (meaning Dominion of the Makedonians).
Please note that I'm not trying to be a smartass (after all you are the one creating this quasi-AAR, I'm just a viewer), it's just that I'd like to contribute somehow.
Finally the above are all forms in the Attic dialect of ancient Greek. I'm not sure about the Macedonian dialect though I suspect it wouldn't be different and in any case in EB's timeframe Attic had become the norm.
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Nice empires you have there guys. It's not a pleasant thing for me to see Carthage destroyed :disappointed: , but nice empires anyway.
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I bow to your greater wisdom, Noble Wrath - I'm still in the process of learning Greek and while I'm doing pretty well, I'm far from an expert. -M
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Hello comrade Arthur! Being a Greek I might be of help with the translations to the ancient greek alphabet. However, keep in mind that I'm not an expert on such things.
Well, Olympiades Argeades would be written: ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΔΗΣ ΑΡΓΕΑΔΗΣ (Mulceber was right). I use capital letters since small letters were introduced quite later in the greek and latin alphabets. Neikon Nikator would become ΝΕΙΚΩΝ ΝΙΚΑΤΩΡ (with Ω instead of O). Thessalonikeus would be ΘΕΣΣΑΛΟΝΙΚΕΥΣ (with Θ instead of T).
I also think that Arche Makedonia (modelled after the Arche Seleukeia) should be altered. Because Seleukeia can be a noun (the name of the city) but initially it was an adjective: it means "of Seleukos" or rather "Seleukeian". Therefore, since Makedonia is strictly a noun, I'd suggest Arche Makedonia to be named Arche Makedonias (of Makedonia- genitive form) or Arche Makedonike (Makedonian - adjective). In the greek alphabet it would then become ΑΡΧΗ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑΣ or ΑΡΧΗ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΗ. I believe hellenistic kingdoms were not named after the ethnicities of the inhabitants, so we should stay clear of the name Arche Makedonon (meaning Dominion of the Makedonians).
Thank you for confirming what Mulceber said. And I did think of using capital letters for the names because of the reason you brought up (small letter not being in the alphabet of greek at the time) it was more of aesthetic reasons I kept the smaller letters (no capslock fury if you know what I mean) I might change those things later to make it more correct.
BTW I have a question: Are there any differences between the modern greek alphabet (except for the small letters of course) and the one used in EB's time frame?
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Please note that I'm not trying to be a smartass (after all you are the one creating this quasi-AAR, I'm just a viewer), it's just that I'd like to contribute somehow.
Don't worry, I appreciate your input. :)
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Finally the above are all forms in the Attic dialect of ancient Greek. I'm not sure about the Macedonian dialect though I suspect it wouldn't be different and in any case in EB's timeframe Attic had become the norm.
Didn't they use Koine greek in EB's time frame though? Not that it might be such a big difference between the two. If I remember correctly Koine greek is a simplified version of Attic greek as Koine translate to "Common" (as in common greek) in English, now I'm not sure about any of this or maybe Koine was only used as spoken language.
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Nice empires you have there guys. It's not a pleasant thing for me to see Carthage destroyed :disappointed: , but nice empires anyway.
Hopefully this shall cheer you up me friend.
Here is my Kart-Hadastim empire in 192 BC.
As you can see I have just conquered the Barbaroi and put an end to their empire.
Here is the Vanquisher of Roma aptly named Hannibal ( he is probably one of the best generals I've ever had)
Another posted by that wacky HaanBaal:
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And if you have one of Kart-Hadast be sure to post it. :wink:
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Are there any differences between the modern greek alphabet (except for the small letters of course) and the one used in EB's time frame?
Though my knowledge on the pre-classical period is quite scetchy, I think various regional variants of the greek alphabet existed early on. For example the latin alphabet is supposed to have derived form a western form of the greek alphabet and I believe the ionian cities had their own versions. The greek script was even used in certain cases to write down non-greek languages like the eteocretan inscriptions in Crete or the inscription of Lemnos (whose language btw is dubiously akin to the language of the Etruscans...).
However, during the classical and certainly during the hellenistic (EB) era a common form of the alphabet was established, which has remained afaik unchanged since. Some early letters like the digamma (F), which represented a W-like sound, had already become obsolete by then, because their sounds had ceased to be pronounced. An innovation of the hellenistic era was the introduction of markings like accents and breathings, in order to help the non-native speakers to pronounce the language correctly. Those markings were abandoned in Greece only two decades ago.
About the relationship between the Attic and the Common dialects you are absolutely correct.
@Mulceber: It's my own language so I don't really feel that wise. On the other hand, your learning of a completely alien language, which is not going to be of any use to you unless you are a philologist, is at least commendable.
Oh, and guys you got some awesome empires there! Good luck with micromanaging those monsters...
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Though my knowledge on the pre-classical period is quite scetchy, I think various regional variants of the greek alphabet existed early on. For example the latin alphabet is supposed to have derived form a western form of the greek alphabet and I believe the ionian cities had their own versions. The greek script was even used in certain cases to write down non-greek languages like the eteocretan inscriptions in Crete or the inscription of Lemnos (whose language btw is dubiously akin to the language of the Etruscans...).
However, during the classical and certainly during the hellenistic (EB) era a common form of the alphabet was established, which has remained afaik unchanged since. Some early letters like the digamma (F), which represented a W-like sound, had already become obsolete by then, because their sounds had ceased to be pronounced. An innovation of the hellenistic era was the introduction of markings like accents and breathings, in order to help the non-native speakers to pronounce the language correctly. Those markings were abandoned in Greece only two decades ago.
About the relationship between the Attic and the Common dialects you are absolutely correct.
Oh, and guys you got some awesome empires there! Good luck with micromanaging those monsters...
Interesting :book:, and I do remember of that greek - etruscan - roman alphabet connection (well yeah the Phoenicians were first with that)
Ancient greek and Ancient Greece is something I really find interesting and it's always nice to learn more on this.
Yet again thank you for your aid in this matter my friend. :bow:
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@Mulceber: It's my own language so I don't really feel that wise. On the other hand, your learning of a completely alien language, which is not going to be of any use to you unless you are a philologist, is at least commendable.
Good thing I'm looking to go into Classics then.:book:
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Nice empires you have there guys. It's not a pleasant thing for me to see Carthage destroyed , but nice empires anyway.
I have my own Pick-me-up to give Jebivjetar as well:
Just a small update (sorry, no pictures :embarassed: ):
The year of Scipio and Caesar may have proved rocky, but the year that followed was to be even more so. On his way to his new province, Caesar's party was attacked by a roving Gallic war party. The new proconsul escaped unharmed, but this was all the justification he needed: taking command of the four legions guarding the province, he marched west and laid siege to Burdigala. To Caesar's mind, these rich lands would prove a great arena for him to garner more glory. The rewards - both pecuniary and political - would be rich for the man who could tame Gaul. Although he was consumed with war, Caesar nevertheless kept abreast of (and perhaps even influenced) events in Rome: in the spring of that year, Decimus' older brother, Manius, won his second consulship and their nephew, the young Marcus Iulius Caesar won the Aedileship. Opinions on this were rather mixed. On the one hand, Manius was far more of a strict conservative than Decimus (indeed, it was only their close blood relation which maintained their political ties), and so his election was not as incendiary as it might have been, had he any populist leanings. Nevertheless, such success for the gens Iulia brought mutterings of Tyranny from some of their harsher opponents, particularly in the summer of that year, when Manius - knowing that his brother had no short war in mind - succeeded in having Decimus' term of office in Gaul extended for an additional nine years.
In spring another war broke out, however: In the few years since Aemilius Paullus had returned Alexandreia and Memphis to them, the Ptolemies had greatly expanded their power, pushing the Seleukids out of the Levant and even taking Antiocheia itself. Flushed with success, and covetous of Roman holdings in Cilicia and Libya, they now foolishly attacked these provinces without even having finished off the faltering Seleukid dynasty first. Moving quickly, they sacked and enslaved Tarsos and the local Propraetor, L. Aemilius Paullus was killed. Response was quick and harsh: the propraetor of Libya (the new Proconsul Scipio had not yet arrived) struck Alexandreia and enslaved a large portion of the population, while the legions given up by Sp. Octauius in Asia quickly retook Tarsos, although they thankfully spared the populace. Asia was short of good men, however, and so, late in the fall, the Consul Mn. Caesar dispatched his nephew Marcus to provide what aide he could to the promagistrates in Asia. Shortly after Marcus' departure, however, Manius slipped while at the Baths and hit his skull on the hard tiles. At first he appeared to endure the injury well, but over the course of the next few days his mental acumen rapidly deteriorated and by the end of the week he was dead. This proved to be a terrible tragedy on multiple levels, as the Republic suddenly found itself a consul short when it was fighting two wars, and all at once Decimus's chief political ally was gone. -M
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An interesting read Mulceber! :wink:
How did poor Manius die (as in ingame) did he die "A Tragic Death" or did you just send him towards some rebelstack? :clown:
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Believe it or not, he actually just died on his own - I hadn't planned for him to get killed off, but the game randomly selected to kill him, and so I just decided to run with it and see how things play out. However, I have considered the possibility of using rebel stacks (or pirate fleets) when the civil war begins and I have to start offing family members. -M
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Believe it or not, he actually just died on his own - I hadn't planned for him to get killed off, but the game randomly selected to kill him, and so I just decided to run with it and see how things play out. However, I have considered the possibility of using rebel stacks (or pirate fleets) when the civil war begins and I have to start offing family members. -M
That's odd cause he was quite young no?
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Not so much - he was in the middle of his second consulship after all. IIRC, I think he was around 60, which is still a little on the young side, but isn't too unusual. -M
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Not so much - he was in the middle of his second consulship after all. IIRC, I think he was around 60, which is still a little on the young side, but isn't too unusual. -M
LOL! 60 isn't really my definition of "young". If he had been like 18 and died with no reason it would have been quite scary.
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Heh, true that - I think it'd actually be pretty cool if the EB team could have the game kill off the occasional family member really early - it would kind of make the whole thing seem more real - although it would really suck to have your potential reformator die at 30. Probably doesn't matter though - it's likely hard-coded anyway. -M
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Heh, true that - I think it'd actually be pretty cool if the EB team could have the game kill off the occasional family member really early - it would kind of make the whole thing seem more real - although it would really suck to have your potential reformator die at 30. Probably doesn't matter though - it's likely hard-coded anyway. -M
Hmm yeah that be interesting, but it's probably hard-coded. :wall:
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I had a cool Carthage game going. I was sieging Capua and Arpi with a Libyan army with Elephants, and a Samnite army with some Gauls too. I didn't take any pictures, and I like to accidentally save over my cool saved games. I'll post pictures of my cool Roman game later though.
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Heh, true that - I think it'd actually be pretty cool if the EB team could have the game kill off the occasional family member really early - it would kind of make the whole thing seem more real - although it would really suck to have your potential reformator die at 30. Probably doesn't matter though - it's likely hard-coded anyway. -M
Haaa. totaly NOT cool! as sweboz, I've already trouble tp keep my FM live until 40 coz of my house rule of ''FM always in the first front line...'' if they had to die from flu catch from a moskito bite at 24... that's be the end of the shit
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A (very) short update.
ΑΡΧΗ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΗ 143 BC
The Parthians invaded from the North and since ΑΥΛΟΣ ΘΕΣΣΑΛΟΝΙΚΕΥΣ was in charge of the northern army he had to take care of the problem.
The Parni used Kataphraktoi and Hippotoxotai en masse and inflicted heavy losses on the Hellenic side.
To make matters worse the Makedonike commander died in the heat of the battle, which caused the Babylonian heavy infantry to rout.
The rest of the army held their ground and rather than lose heart over their commander's had died, they were inspired to perform glorius feats on the battlefield.
The battle ended in Makedonian triumph:
Back in ἙΛΛΑΣ a new plague had gained a foothold, killing thousands.
While all this happened ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΔHΣ conquered Karmania and Gedrosia in a matter of months.
Everything was going according to plan except for the loss of the Strategos of the Northern forces, which left the north vulnerable for Parni incursions and the remaining Makedonian forces in the area had to barricade themselves into the cites of Zadrakata and Hekatompylos and await ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΔHΣ return from the South.
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This thread is the AAR - while it started as a place for us all to brag about how much we'd conquered, it's essentially become a thread for people who like writing about their faction but don't want to invest the time in a full-blown AAR. -M
Ps. Nice work, Arthur. Your Arche is starting to look like an amalgamation of the Arche Alexandrou and the Imperium Romanum.
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My Roman game:
First one was from a while ago. I took the two Illyrian settlements during the first and only Punic War, and my long time ally Eperios decided they wanted to attack, so I just took all of Greece.
Second one is a funny family member I have. He's pretty much useless, but one of his sons is really good.
As you can see, the Lusotanans control southern Gaul, but I got Massilia from the Arverni, so I'm holding them back from expanding further.
Third one is my naval invasion of Iberia. I took Mastia, then sent half my army over to Gader and took it, but on the way back, my half stack was attacked by a Lusotanan full stack. I barely won that battle, and I lost many troops, so I'm sending reinforcements, as seen in my last picture.
I like being allies with Carthage. They keep the pirates away from my Iberian reinforcements.
The Makedonians are my allies and they keep back the AS pretty well.
Both Gauls are at war with me, but I'm allied with the Sweboz. After I'm done with Iberia, I'll sweep through Europe and beat the crap out of everything, I think.
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SwissBarbar
Do you have an AAR?
I don't have a AAR in the sense that it's posted outside of this thread, my post in here are basically my "AAR" though I wouldn't call it that since it's not updated as frequent, the updates are quite short and isn't written in a professional way. This thread can be used as an "AAR playground" where one can write Roleplay and AARish about ones empires and not worry about having to update every three minutes. If you want to do so here too then I welcome it. :2thumbsup:
Hope you enjoyed reading about my empire.
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Mulceber
This thread is the AAR - while it started as a place for us all to brag about how much we'd conquered, it's essentially become a thread for people who like writing about their faction but don't want to invest the time in a full-blown AAR. -M
Haha, come to think about it, it's just you and I who use this thread in that way.
And if someone doen't want to rolplay/write AARish then that is of course also OK.
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Ps. Nice work, Arthur. Your Arche is starting to look like an amalgamation of the Arche Alexandrou and the Imperium Romanum.
Thanks, your empire is shaping up nicely too! And I don't know if I'm just going to conquer the east and then be done with it or to continue after that, if I do continue it will probably have to do with "Internal Problems".
Oh and on a side note, this Olympiades guy is probably the only faction leader I've had who had both S/C/V
as well as Unselfish/Optimistic/Loyal so late into the game,
I LOVE HIM (in a nonsexual way of course)
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Thanks, your empire is shaping up nicely too! And I don't know if I'm just going to conquer the east and then be done with it or to continue after that, if I do continue it will probably have to do with "Internal Problems".
Oh and on a side note, this Olympiades guy is probably the only faction leader I've had who had both S/C/V
as well as Unselfish/Optimistic/Loyal so late into the game,
I LOVE HIM (in a nonsexual way of course)
Heh, isn't it awesome when you have such great characters to roleplay? Lucullus and Africanus were two of the funnest characters I ever had. Caesar and his relations are making it pretty interesting too. Speaking of which...
The Siege of Burdigala went well. The Gauls made only a token relief effort, and before long the city had fallen. Caesar pillaged the city and, after subduing the populace, appointed a new King to rule over the region. He then marched east to capture the town of Gergovia. On the way, his scouts discovered and reported a Gallic fort on the border of Roman territory. The Proconsul wished to avoid having his men distracted from the construction of siege equipment, and so he dispatched a messenger instructing his legate in Tolosa, Cn. Claudius Cicero, to briefly besiege the fort in a feint to keep the soldiers away from Caesar's siege works.
Violence raged in the east as well. Having taken up Sp. Octauius' old legion, the Proconsul of Asia, Tb. Papirius Cursor, made his way eastward. He planned to besiege Antiocheia, but before he could cross the Orontes River, scouts reported an approaching army. Cursor and M. Caesar, his lieutenant, eventually selected some lightly forested hills as a location to make their stand. It wasn't perfect, as they were on an incline, but it offered them some forest cover in which their men could hide. Unable to see the positioning of the Roman troops, the attacking Ptolemaic army failed to properly cover its flank, and thus it was an easy matter for the right wing of the army to circumvent the Phalangitai and attack them from the rear. Meanwhile on the left wing, the Romans were suffering a terrible onslaught from the hetairoi of one of the two generals commanding this army. By the grace of fortune however, Marcus Caesar and his wing of cavalry were concealed in the woods not far away, and with the help of a century of Antesignani, it was not hard to turn the tables on the impetuous general. Their leader's death caused a panic within the army, which quickly fell into a rout.
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In the ensuing carnage, the remaining Ptolemaic general was also killed, as well as almost two thousand of the Pharaoh's troops. Romans losses had numbered between 200 and 300, surprisingly light, given that they were fighting on a hill. With no enemies in sight, Tiberius and Marcus marched on Antiocheia and began the siege.
South of their position, another siege was just ending. Not wishing to put off battle any longer, C. Scipio moved his siege towers into position and his men streamed out onto the battlements of Memphis. They were surprised, however, to find the ramparts deserted. Opening the gates for their commander, they soon discovered that the garrison commander had concentrated all his troops at the city center, hoping that having nowhere to run would inspire his already-formidable phalangitai to even greater bravery. With a clever feint, however, Scipio was able to lure one of the units away where it was quickly surrounded and butchered. Such a trick would not work twice, however, and there was simply nothing for it but a straight up fight.
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Meanwhile in Gaul, D. Caesar's feint had worked and the Gallic warband had left his men alone as they constructed their siege towers. Now he sought to take the city. The advance of his siege equipment was somewhat hampered by Gallic archers and slingers on the wall. Once the massive towers were in position, the tables were turned, however, and the lightly armed Gauls who had been shouting slurs against the advancing cohorts now found themselves on the wrong side of a gladius. From here the legions secured the gateway and their friends outside burst into the city.
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They then advanced toward the town square but the infantry met resistance from a unit of Neitos. However, Caesar quickly flanked them with his personal bodyguard and finished them off.
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From here it was little more than a swift march to the town square, where the remaining Gauls were quickly defeated. It had been a hard year, and as he divided up the spoils and began the process of seeking a suitable new Chieftain for the town, Caesar resolved to winter his men here, so as to give them a fresh start in the next year's campaign season. -M
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Pontos 205BC EB1.2
Sweboz 225BC EB1.0
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He's looking pretty healthy for a dead guy!!
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As always an interesting read Mulceber!
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Yeah, quite interesting that a dead guy has the vigorous trait
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lol, it's probably because he loaded a save game from an older version of EB than his curent version of EB, if I'm not misstaken.
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Sorry, not sure I understand, what's this about a dead guy? -M
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Look at the guy's traits in Kikaz post (Sweboz Campaign)
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Oh, thanks for the clear up, Swissbar - for some reason I thought you were referring to my campaign. Nice Empire, Kikaz, and nicer still that the Sweboz have apparently discovered the art of necromancy. -M
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@Kikaz
Huh? Did you make that yourself or is this an EB easter egg which I have never seen? Can you explain?
~Fluvius
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Fluvius Camillus
@Kikaz
Huh? Did you make that yourself or is this an EB easter egg which I have never seen? Can you explain?
~Fluvius
I have encountered this too when loading a savegame older than my current EB version (EB 1.1 --> EB 1.2), and I explained how it works in post 273:
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Arthur, king of the Britons
lol, it's probably because he loaded a save game from an older version of EB than his curent version of EB, if I'm not misstaken.
Probably also happens in general if the savegames are corrupted.
:P
Oh and Mulceber, I hope your Caesar is nicer towards the Gauls in comparision to the real one (i.e doesn't enslave them)
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Arthur, king of the Britons
Oh and Mulceber, I hope your Caesar is nicer towards the Gauls in comparision to the real one (i.e doesn't enslave them)
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Oops...
Kinda too late. :embarassed: Oh well, I'll just say that he enslaved the people of Burdigala and of Gergovia because it was they who had been directly responsible for raiding and harassing Gallia Transalpina for so many years. I'll be nicer to the remaining Gallic lands. -M
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Well, it might be a bit off topic, but was anyone ever successfull (on the long term) at keeping a small "empire" alive without expanding? I'm currently playing a Pontus-gone-Anatolia Confederacy campaign that includes 5 provinces (Ankyra, Amaseia, Nikaia, Mazaka and Ipsos). I was actually starting to expand quite easily till 255 when I thought "oh well, I've done this before, haven't I?"
So I gave up the controll of Mytilene-Pergamon-Sardis-Halikarnasso-Sinope*. Currently, I'm trying to make enough money to build Mines+2. Militarywise I can produce pretty much every unit that I will ever need (and that with a 2-3 chevrons bonus!), so for the time being I'm feeling quite safe.
*Sardis and Mytilene back to their original owners, the rest defected to KH.
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ertai1987
Well, it might be a bit off topic, but was anyone ever successfull (on the long term) at keeping a small "empire" alive without expanding? I'm currently playing a Pontus-gone-Anatolia Confederacy campaign that includes 5 provinces (Ankyra, Amaseia, Nikaia, Mazaka and Ipsos). I was actually starting to expand quite easily till 255 when I thought "oh well, I've done this before, haven't I?"
So I gave up the controll of Mytilene-Pergamon-Sardis-Halikarnasso-Sinope*. Currently, I'm trying to make enough money to build Mines+2. Militarywise I can produce pretty much every unit that I will ever need (and that with a 2-3 chevrons bonus!), so for the time being I'm feeling quite safe.
*Sardis and Mytilene back to their original owners, the rest defected to KH.
Sweboz... I kept all Provinces of only Germania (what was under their control) up to 230 - 25 BC without expending further... then, with Aedui on the west and the Romans on my ass in the south, I needed more income to lift an army that'd teach them NOT to come uninvited, so i went to conquer Great Britain... easy catch. with the income of all their ports (it was about 223 or so BC) I built a crack army led by my 10 stars General who went rampage in Italy, conquered every cities until Capua and Arpi... my empire is no more small... it is now around 210 BC, (SOON i'LL GET MY REFORM!!!). Yesterday, the most frustrating thing happened to me... I went to capture Gawjam-gatanoz, on the small island, got attacked by pirate, who sank my boats... with my full stack army, plus 2 FM (as I was planning to attack prsesnt day russia from the sea, to save myself from fighting the crack full stack of central europe... Argh.
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Mulceber
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Oops...
Kinda too late. :embarassed: Oh well, I'll just say that he enslaved the people of Burdigala and of Gergovia because it was they who had been directly responsible for raiding and harassing Gallia Transalpina for so many years. I'll be nicer to the remaining Gallic lands. -M
Shame on you Mulceber! :p
Those poor celts.. all they wanted to do was to grab some loot and slaves and destroy some buildings, that's all... *sniff*
In general I almost never enslave and if I do my general have to be "Selfish" and/or possibly a very annoying city that constantly rebels. What's your policy on enslavement in general though?
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Aww, ok, I'll make sure they don't go to the mines. Man Arthur, those Gauls owe you big time. I'll instruct them to construct a shrine to Olympiades Nikator Soter -M
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Mulceber
Aww, ok, I'll make sure they don't go to the mines. Man Arthur, those Gauls owe you big time. I'll instruct them to construct a shrine to Olympiades Nikator Soter -M
:laugh4: Thanks! Come to think about it, maybe I should conquer Gaul and brittania as an final thingy in my "AAR". :idea2:
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He's looking pretty healthy for a dead guy!!
If, understandably, a bit bored. Not being allowed to do anything because the Dugunthiz believes that you are dead must be pretty dull...
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Having avenged himself on the Burdigalani and the Gergoviani for having attacked his province and his person, it was assumed by many in the Senate that Caesar's lust for conquest would be sated, and that he would be content to squeeze his province - like so many other promagistrates - for the remainder of his term. Thus it came as a complete shock to the Conscript Fathers when reports began to filter into Rome that Caesar was laying siege to Bibracte. Many Senators at this point voiced their opinion that Caesar was inciting open warfare with the Gauls and should be brought back to Rome immediately and tried on charges of conspiracy, theft and illegal warfare. Others voiced more moderate opinions, but were concerned nonetheless, while still other, Populist Senators defended the Proconsul's actions, as much out of loyalty and solidarity as out of conviction.
Surely Caesar must have been made aware of the Senate's reaction by his spies, but if so, he cared very little. The plebs were delighted with the spoils which had been sent back from Burdigala and Gergovia, and, as usual, the Equites could be counted upon to rally behind anything the Senate opposed, especially when it opened up new trade avenues for their businesses. In the fall of 135, Caesar and his lieutenant, Au. Scipio decided to take Bibracte by storm. Having used sappers to breach the walls, troops stormed through the gap and engaged the Gallic forces huddled inside.
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These levy forces were quickly swept aside by the Republican forces, but at the town center there was a harder nut to crack.
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From here it was a long grind, wearing down the Neitos and, on the other side of the square, the chieftain himself, appropriately named Tyranos. When the Chieftain was finally killed, however, the rest of his troops surrendered.
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In a way, however, the Senate had been right in their original estimation that Caesar's bloodlust was sated: for instead of enslaving the populace, he expelled a portion of the population to other towns, and allowed his men to engage in some well-deserved looting, before beginning the process of rebuilding Bibracte's shattered power structure (are you happy, Arthur?).
In the east, meanwhile, things were going quite well - Tb. Papirius Cursor and M. Iulius Caesar quickly took Antiocheia and, after warding off an attempted siege by the Ptolemies, moved south to take Sidon as well. It was said by several Jews on Cursor's staff that in ages past, their people had been slaves of the Egyptian Pharaoh, and had been freed by their lawgiver, Moses. Thus it struck Cursor as a great irony that the Hellenistic-Egyptian Monarch had now made the homeland of the Jews his capital. It wouldn't be a capital for long, though.
Successes down in Egypt proper were plentiful as well, as C. Scipio slowly marched his legions up the Nile, taking every city he found. He had even called upon the governor of Africa Vetus, Seruius Caesar (yes, another Caesar - for some reason the Roman Empire these days is filthy with them. I promise I won't start Role-playing this one though, if for no other reason than to avoid further confusion of which Caesar is which) to send two legions over for the purpose of taking the remainder of the Ptolemies' Libyan holdings. Marching East, these two legions met with great success, taking Augila and Ammonion. They then halted to recuperate and await a good opportunity to march on Hibis.
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Well done. How did Armenia end up having a lone town on the western frontier of the Sarmatian Confederacy?
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Mulceber
Oh, thanks for the clear up, Swissbar - for some reason I thought you were referring to my campaign. Nice Empire, Kikaz, and nicer still that the Sweboz have apparently discovered the art of necromancy. -M
Thanks, and yeah I think that "Slain by Sabaeans" trait is a result of loading an EB1.o game in EB1.2, I'm pretty sure he wasn't a zombie in the original save.
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Well done. How did Armenia end up having a lone town on the western frontier of the Sarmatian Confederacy?
I think it might have revolted to them - either that or they conquered it a couple hundred turns ago. iirc, the sequence of events was they expanded outward and conquered a whole swath of land from the Sauromatae, then the Sauromatae took back most of it and Pontos kicked them out of their original homeland. Then, when I defeated Pontos, I gave them back their homeland to serve as a buffer zone between the Romani and the Arche Seleukeia.
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Thanks, and yeah I think that "Slain by Sabaeans" trait is a result of loading an EB1.o game in EB1.2, I'm pretty sure he wasn't a zombie in the original save.
But on the bright side, now your forces will be invincible, since no faction has shotguns, chainsaws or any of the basic equipment for fighting Zombies! :clown: -M
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Mulceber
I think it might have revolted to them - either that or they conquered it a couple hundred turns ago. iirc, the sequence of events was they expanded outward and conquered a whole swath of land from the Sauromatae, then the Sauromatae took back most of it and Pontos kicked them out of their original homeland. Then, when I defeated Pontos, I gave them back their homeland to serve as a buffer zone between the Romani and the Arche Seleukeia.
But on the bright side, now your forces will be invincible, since no faction has shotguns, chainsaws or any of the basic equipment for fighting Zombies! :clown: -M
Unfortunately, I cannot field my vast zombie armies as the game CTD's when I hit end turn :sad:
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Aww, but I was looking forward to a Sweboz version of Shawn of the Dead... -M
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Inspired by Megas Methuselah's Massalia AAR, Here's my 'Pyrrhos in Iberia' game. The current year is 228 BCE, and the western dominions of the Aiakids stretch from Mauritania in the south-west to Massalia in the north. My greatest general, Euegoros 'Hammer of the Lusotannan' Sasonios is now embroiled in a bitter conflict against the traitorous Aedui. With any luck, the realm will soon spread northwards, bringing the light of Hellenism to even the darkest corners of savage Gaul!
Oh, and those elephants you see are all that remains of Pyrrhos' initial squad. I've worked hard to keep them alive, and they've payed back my diligence with many a route-inducing charge! :2thumbsup:
As for the rest of the world, I'm really happy with Anatolia. I love what KH has managed to do in the south, while Pontos has expanded nicely up north. The Hai just attacked the Seleukids, so we'll see what happens there. In the far East things are kind of crazy. Provinces have been going back and forth between Baktria, Saka, Pahalva, and the Arche. I expect that middle Indian city to rebel to Pahlava soon which will make things even better...:dizzy:
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Arthur, king of the Britons
An update to my Makedonian empire:
The extent of the ΑΡΧΗ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΗ as of 147 BC:
Following the return of the Basileus to the capital the people were ecstatic, for they have waited many years for their hero to return from his bold campaigning in the west. He just like his father had the "man of the people" aura about him and the Charisma needed to influence people around him. By the historians of the Arche he is regarded as the greatest military leader Makedonia have ever had, possibly to be rivalled by his son.
After the shameless attack on the Arche's Egyptian holdings by the Noubaoi king, it befell the Royal heir ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΔΗΣ to deal with the problem.
After defeating them in battle he set up a number of client kings in the area who hopefully were to be more loyal.
Currently he is studying in Alexandreai and readying his army for another campaign, this time into Persia and beyond.
In the East the Parthian Persian Empire are sending their armies against the border. The reason to this is that both East-Hellenic kingdoms are given financial support from the Arche Makedonia which of course is not something the King of Kings Baghâbigh find very amusing..
For the Hellenes in the East things were not going too well. With collapse threatening both Hellenic kingdoms due to the conquests of nearly all their lands by the Persians the situation is looking dire indeed.
The Persian empire is the only nation at this time who can rival the might of the Makedonian Arche and is a serious threat to our plan.
Comments are appreciated. :bow:
Good job there :balloon3: ALL HAIL MAKEDONIA!!!
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Nice storytelling Mulceber! :2thumbsup:
You should make an AAR or something.
An update on the ΑΡΧΗ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΗ as of 144 BC and the situation on the Eastern front:
When the Persians invaded the Arche's eastern holdings ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΔHΣ swiftly defeated the bulk of the invasion force as well as conquered the Persian homelands and western holdings. He also incorporated the Seleucid holdings into the Arche, even though their leaders were reluctant to submit. When he and his army entered Persepolis he gave order that no plundering was to made in the old Persian capital and that the Tomb of Kyros was not to be defiled. Many officers in the army thought this behaviour to be utmost nonsense, but this sign of respect completely won over the Persian people and ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΔHΣ was hailed as their new Shahanshah, and Baghâbigh and his followers being branded outcasts by their judges. The Persian people never were too found of their Parthian masters as they had treated them as little more than slaves and were forced to fight in the army as infantry cannon fodder, this too worked for the Makedonians benefit who were being hailed as saviours by the populace.
The following day a messanger from ΠΕΛΛΑ arrived in Persepolis. He informed ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΔHΣ that his father had quietly past away in his sleep and that he was now the ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ.
ΝΕΙΚΩΝ ΝΙΚΑΤΩΡ had been the one who finally brought an end to Kart-Hadast, conquered Iberia and secured the western border. He had also started a major number of building projects around the Arche, with exellent road systems and aqueducts surpassing even the Romaoi in it's perfection. Hellenic culture flourished under his rule and Athenai became a centre of learning and philosophy again and many great plays were set up. He was truly a great leader one who were to be missed by all in the ΑΡΧΗ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΗ.
Even though the Persian homelands were now in the hands of the Makedones, the war continued, for the Parthians would not give up so lightly and so this war of conquest had to continue.
This is the plan: ΣΟΣΙΒΙΟΣ ΦΥΛΛΙΟΣ will guard Iran while ΑΥΛΟΣ ΘΕΣΣΑΛΟΝΙΚΕΥΣ make sure to keep the Parni horsemen away from the northern holdings. (extremely complex plan I know :laugh4:)
While they do that ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΔHΣ will conquer the southern territories which currently only have lightly armed and few troops as garrison.
Some pictures over the most important victories in the war so far:
And yeah comments are appreciated. :bow:
Truth and hope in Fatherland!
Death to Every Foe!
Hoist your Xiphos into the clouds!
All Hail Makedonia!!!
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Ooh, that looks good. You just gave me an interesting idea for Epeiros...
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My mighty Carthaginian empire.
1) For many decades the Ptolies have invaded our lands, pillaging our villages, destroying our harbours, selling our wives and children into slavery, attacking our mighty tradefleets. Our Senate decided to put this to an end, and assembled an army to invade Ptolemaic Empire.
https://img188.imageshack.us/img188/553/army1n.jpg
2) Battles were hard and bloody. Many heroic victories we have won:
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3) After years and years of fighting, we have finally succeeded to reach the heart of Egypt. In this picture we can see the brave Carthaginian veterans at the pyramids:
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4) Anyway, Ptolemy did not accept our generous offer to become our vassal, with his empire as our protectorate. Our Council of Elders decided that we must push even further, deeper into the Ptolemy's lands.
https://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9578/cmap1.jpg
5) In meanwhile, some barbarian tribe from Italy attacked our colonies in Sicily. They were numerous but inferior to our Sicilian garrisoned armies, leaded by our wise and experienced generals. Our suffet was antibarcid, so we didn't invade barbaroi's lands: instead of that, we have wiped out their invading army and humiliated their leader, who fled the battlefield, crying like a child.
https://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8821/antibarcid.jpg
Humiliation:
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6) As a result of the first barbarian war, the city of Rhegion turned to our side, and peace treaty was achieved. At this point, Rhegion is our tactical military base, where we can observe any further barbaroi actions, while our armies are prepared to kill' em once again if they come.
https://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5391/sicilia.jpg
7) The city of Kyrene is governed by Romaioktonoi prominent member Cute Wolf. It's always good to have him around because of his high influence which prevents any rebellious actions in the city:
https://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9021/wolfy.jpg
8) General Vasiliyi is with us also:
https://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3184/vasiliyi.jpg
9) Western border: pacified for now. Our Iberian allies are fighting for new lands in their sphere of influence, according to several contracts between Carthaginian Senate and their leadership. It's a matter of time when they will decide to attack barbaroi garrisons if Gaul. In that case Carthage will declare war on barbaroi, and help her allies fighting them.
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Praise Jebi and his Baal-Lords!
The mighty strength of Romaioktonoi!
To no end his men shall march;
To no end the Barbaroi they slay.
They shall drink, in joy and glee;
The river runs red, by end of day.
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Where is Saka, Jeb?
Destroyed by Baktria just recently. Anyway the last Saka lands conquered by Baktrian army rebelled to Eleutheroi few turns after Saka died.
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How can I have no command? I should lead entire army to smack those Barbaroi!!!
RAWWRRRR
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You're to precious as a governor, Wolfy. If we send you into a battle, Kyrene may just rebel. People love you, it would not be smart to leave that precious town (having him it's in our victory condition you know) :clown:
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No more Romaioktonoi spam, please.
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Nice one Jebivjetar! Curious to see such a long lasting alliance with the Iberians. May I ask what level campaign difficulty you play with? And has that alliance been so since the begining? It would be nice to see if that alliance would remain so after a shared conquest of gaul. Keep us updated.
oh and fire that governor in Sicilia -> wrong man in the wrong place. Anti-barcid FMs belong in Africa humpin camels on top of cacts, as that was their policy. Or you could just teleport them to Terhazza :idea2: Then you could put a proper barcid general in Sicilia, hand him a decent couple of units and hamper the barbaroi on their heartland while your allies take their northern lands.
@Ludens: please stop with that nonsense anti-romaioktonoi spam before someone closes the topic. :hide:
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No, I agree with him. This is a thread for ALL FACTIONS to post their empires and/or write mini-AAR's. Kindly leave your trolling at the door. -M
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[cF]HanBaal
Nice one Jebivjetar! Curious to see such a long lasting alliance with the Iberians. May I ask what level campaign difficulty you play with? And has that alliance been so since the begining? It would be nice to see if that alliance would remain so after a shared conquest of gaul. Keep us updated.
oh and fire that governor in Sicilia -> wrong man in the wrong place. Anti-barcid FMs belong in Africa humpin camels on top of cacts, as that was their policy. Or you could just teleport them to Terhazza :idea2: Then you could put a proper barcid general in Sicilia, hand him a decent couple of units and hamper the barbaroi on their heartland while your allies take their northern lands.
@Ludens: please stop with that nonsense anti-romaioktonoi spam before someone closes the topic. :hide:
Thank you for your respond, HanBaal!
Well, i always play on M/M difficulty. Personally i don't like to see AI hiring mercenaries, especially when it send them against me. Even now the Prolies are very hard opponents, bacause they can assemble very good and massive armies in very short time. I think it would drive me insane to fight like 10 massive battles against yellow regular armies as well as against entire mercenary pool in their land (in case if i was playing on hard)for a single city or two.
As for my alliance with Lusotanians: well, they broke up our alliance somewhere around 220BC by attacking one of my cities (Sucum Murgi i think, but i'm not 100% sure). I've managed to drive them back and even to capture one of their cities (the one north of Gader, i really can't recall the name of it at the moment). At the same time, barbarian tribe from Italy attacked one of Eleutheroi cities in Iberia and Lusos declared war on them (according to the script) automatically. Then i've offered Lusos a casefire, and they accepted it. Few turns later a new alliance was declared between us. From then, Lusos are invading Gaul, and recently they captured the last Arverni city (still visible on my picture) and destroyed the faction. Now, i think they are preparing themselves to attack Barbaroi (i use toggle_fow every few turns, so i can see their armies marching into Gaul, and not spawning around my territory).
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oh and fire that governor in Sicilia -> wrong man in the wrong place. Anti-barcid FMs belong in Africa humpin camels on top of cacts, as that was their policy. Or you could just teleport them to Terhazza Then you could put a proper barcid general in Sicilia, hand him a decent couple of units and hamper the barbaroi on their heartland while your allies take their northern lands.
:laugh4: agreed! But the problem is that most of my family members are antibarcids (i check their traits from time to time, and i don't remember seeing any barcid FM yet... well maybe i don't see good X) ), so i have no choice but to use them as governors no matter of their political views.
Anyway, when i begun with this campaign i decided to leave Barbaroi alone and give them some time to expand and became stronger. In all of mine previous Carthaginian campaigns i've slaughtered them all in few first decades of campaigning, so now i have mercy on them and i'll kill them later, when they will became (i hope so) a worthy foes. That's why i went to Egypt, i want something new :)
I will update my progress and keep you all informed.
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@Ludens: please stop with that nonsense anti-romaioktonoi spam before someone closes the topic.
I second that! :clown:
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[cF]HanBaal
@Ludens: please stop with that nonsense anti-romaioktonoi spam before someone closes the topic. :hide:
Agree X(
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satalexton
Good job there :balloon3: ALL HAIL MAKEDONIA!!!
Thank you Basileus! :bow:
@Jeb Nice empire! May Baal-Haamon guide you. :bow:
What spam anyway? Hardly anything too "offensive" at least.. :shrug:
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Arthur, king of the Britons
Thank you Basileus! :bow:
@Jeb Nice empire! May Baal-Haamon guide you. :bow:
What spam anyway? Hardly anything too "offensive" at least.. :shrug:
Oh yes, the general crying like a little boy, not offensive btw, andthe romaioktonoi hymn (which is the whole post), nah, not spam, just good 'ol info, anyway, i think someone who fights 3000 men with 20 men, is either stupid, or barbarian (romaioktonoi) (what's the difference :shrug::confused:?) :clown:, anyway, he's smart for not wanting to die stupidly, and kill those in another battle
Anyhow, i don't have a empire yet (since i have to restart my campaigns befor 200 BCE due to CTDs), but how do oyu make the whole map of one color? Photoshop, or somehow conquering the "remaining" province (eburia IIRC)
~Jirisys (he's an idiot! no, he's a barbarian (romaioktonoi)! that's what i said!!)
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@some, I see nothing wrong with congratulating a peer for his EB achievements...As for Lykos' pic, I think other Germanoi will handle that....
I fired up my old Baktra save, loaded a turn....toggled the map.....
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._4736646_n.jpg
And THIS is what I saw...
Once again, Jebi has done us proud again. I think I'll restart this campaign just for the Romaioktonoi Heroism and Jebi's expansion.
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jirisys
Oh yes, the general crying like a little boy, not offensive btw, andthe romaioktonoi hymn (which is the whole post), nah, not spam, just good 'ol info, anyway, i think someone who fights 3000 men with 20 men, is either stupid, or barbarian (romaoiktonoi (what's the difference :shrug::confused:?) :clown:, anyway, he's smart for not wanting to die stupidly, and kill those in another battle
Anyhow, i don't have a empire yet (since i have to restart my campaigns befor 200 BCE due to CTDs), but how do oyu make the whole map of one color? Photoshop, or somehow conquering the "remaining" province (eburia IIRC)
~Jirisys (he's an idiot! no, he's a barbarian (romaoiktonoi)! that's what i said!!)
I suspect you do not consider your own post to be at least partially spamish? :clown: Anyway let's keep this "Oh the romaoiktoi are evil" discussion out of this thread, as well as any romaoiktonoi or romaoi spam.
If you want to discuss this further then we can do so but through the visitors message section. :bow:
oh and Sata, real nice Baktrian Empire that. :thumbsup:
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Arthur, king of the Britons
I suspect you do not consider your own post to be at least partially spamish? :clown: Anyway let's keep this "Oh the romaoiktoi are evil" discussion out of this thread, as well as any romaoiktonoi or romaoi spam.
If you want to discuss this further then we can do so but through the visitors message section. :bow:
Best idea I've heard all day. This thread is for people to post their empires/AAR's, not for the Romaioktonoi and the Romaiophiloi to hash out their eternal feud. Let's get back on topic. -M
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here my Saka after kicking my former ally.
https://img245.imageshack.us/img245/8226/64989543.jpg
I'm tired facing countless Phalanx in middle east so I turn my expansion to the north instead. but alas city in the north have poor income. I'm fail on economy. now I don have money. huh... I must admit, Sauromatae is tough. they give me a great joy. unlike those Diadochi. who became more and more defensive.
btw, how to remove fog of war?
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plutoboyz
btw, how to remove fog of war?
open the console window (on my keyboard i do that by pressing a button down bellow the Esc button), type toggle_fow, then press enter, Pluty
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Jebivjetar
open the console window (on my keyboard i do that by pressing a button down bellow the Esc button), type toggle_fow, then press enter, Pluty
thanks.
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Nice Empire, Pluty. As for the economy, maybe turn back to the Diadochoi now? I'm sure their kingdoms are loaded. -M
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Nice Empire, Pluty. As for the economy, maybe turn back to the Diadochoi now? I'm sure their kingdoms are loaded. -M
perhaps you're right. hmm... that mean I must ride my pony through Sarissae line again. or should I give Seleukiea to AS? coz its income -8000 last time I see.
oh yes you're right. Antiochiea, Eddessa and Damaskos is fully loaded... by Agyraspydai. ugh... gross.
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I'm tempted to push all the way to the Iberia in my Baktra game >_> then start a Keltoi game and push all the way East...
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plutoboyz
perhaps you're right. hmm... that mean I must ride my pony through Sarissae line again. or should I give Seleukiea to AS? coz its income -8000 last time I see.
oh yes you're right. Antiochiea, Eddessa and Damaskos is fully loaded... by Agyraspydai. ugh... gross.
Cities like Seleukeia have negative income not necessarily because they aren't making any money, but most likely because it's one of the few big cities in your empire. To see whether they make any income, open up the 'details' page for Seleukeia. It probably only pays taxes and a bit of trade, but due to it's relative size (the percentage of people in your empire that live in Seleukeia), it's forced to pay the upkeep for that relative army. (E.g. if one in ten live in Seleukeia, that city will pay 1/10 of your army, generals and agents upkeep.) Because Seleukeia has no mines, contrary to all these backwaters in Iran you've conquered, the income shown in Seleukeia is highly negative: too many people living there means too much upkeep to be paid by Seleukeia-inhabitants. Loosing Seleukeia or it's population (whether by massacring, riots, plague or being overrun by enemy forces) will spread your upkeep costs paid by Seleukeia equally over all your other settlements, in which case these backwaters with their mines will show you a smaller income. In reality, the only thing that changed was a loss of income from Seleukeia, and a redistribution of expenses and upkeep costs through your empire. The net-result of the loss of Seleukeia would therefore be negative. In plain English: having a negative income in a city is no reason in itself to loose that city. ;)
What you could do (if you didn't already do so), is to break down any Hellenic building that doesn't add to the value of your city, to start with their barracks. Consider destroying wonders, extensive port upgrades and highest level markets as well if they don't really give you sufficient income in the short turn. Other than that: try to minimize your expenses: there's no need to construct a building in every city for every turn, and there probably is no need to have any other unit than mere garrisson units in the larger part of your empire. As far as the rich cities who do pay taxes on the borders of your empire (hint: India) are concerned, consider to make them level-4-settlements and to hire a local chieftan. He'll be expensive in upkeep (800 mnai/turn for some regions), but he's more likely to have tons of influence that allow you to set taxes higher. Switch your capital to the middle of your empire (in order to minimize the distance-to-capitalpenalties and the corruption) and hope you'll be fine. If not: I guess that means you've reached the outer limits of your reign as Saka. Spreading any further might only be possible as a more civilized faction.
Congratulations with your victories and conquests. I didn't yet manage to get that far as Saka,
Andy
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Andy1984
Cities like Seleukeia have negative income not necessarily because they aren't making any money, but most likely because it's one of the few big cities in your empire. To see whether they make any income, open up the 'details' page for Seleukeia. It probably only pays taxes and a bit of trade, but due to it's relative size (the percentage of people in your empire that live in Seleukeia), it's forced to pay the upkeep for that relative army. (E.g. if one in ten live in Seleukeia, that city will pay 1/10 of your army, generals and agents upkeep.) Because Seleukeia has no mines, contrary to all these backwaters in Iran you've conquered, the income shown in Seleukeia is highly negative: too many people living there means too much upkeep to be paid by Seleukeia-inhabitants. Loosing Seleukeia or it's population (whether by massacring, riots, plague or being overrun by enemy forces) will spread your upkeep costs paid by Seleukeia equally over all your other settlements, in which case these backwaters with their mines will show you a smaller income. In reality, the only thing that changed was a loss of income from Seleukeia, and a redistribution of expenses and upkeep costs through your empire. The net-result of the loss of Seleukeia would therefore be negative. In plain English: having a negative income in a city is no reason in itself to loose that city. ;)
What you could do (if you didn't already do so), is to break down any Hellenic building that doesn't add to the value of your city, to start with their barracks. Consider destroying wonders, extensive port upgrades and highest level markets as well if they don't really give you sufficient income in the short turn. Other than that: try to minimize your expenses: there's no need to construct a building in every city for every turn, and there probably is no need to have any other unit than mere garrisson units in the larger part of your empire. As far as the rich cities who do pay taxes on the borders of your empire (hint: India) are concerned, consider to make them level-4-settlements and to hire a local chieftan. He'll be expensive in upkeep (800 mnai/turn for some regions), but he's more likely to have tons of influence that allow you to set taxes higher. Switch your capital to the middle of your empire (in order to minimize the distance-to-capitalpenalties and the corruption) and hope you'll be fine. If not: I guess that means you've reached the outer limits of your reign as Saka. Spreading any further might only be possible as a more civilized faction.
Congratulations with your victories and conquests. I didn't yet manage to get that far as Saka,
Andy
Thanks a lot:bow:
for you :balloon2:
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Congratulations with your victories and conquests. I didn't yet manage to get that far as Saka
I was too obsessed with The Great Khan.:charge:
