Good point Beskar, 4th on the bandwagon, not an obvious course to make.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Blackadder
Hopefully you are just turning over a new leaf then....
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Good point Beskar, 4th on the bandwagon, not an obvious course to make.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Blackadder
Hopefully you are just turning over a new leaf then....
:tongue:
Well, if you look back through the thread, you'll find this little gem:
No matter what fact is behind YLC's claims, it's likely that the good Captain is town.Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
Steven: Ok so lets------
And Steven gets his head whacked off. Iago stands over the dead body of his one time liege lord with two bloodied knives and a look of faint disgust
Iago: Remove this filth from my sight.
Carl’s Replacement: Uh who the hell are you.
Iago: I am your new lord and onetime co-actor
Carl’s Replacement: Can I keep my job?
Iago: Yes I suppose so
Carl”s Replacement: Ok cool then, uh milord.
With that Steven’s corpse seems to rise up. His body makes a grab Iago but fails. He instead latches onto Carl’s Replacement saying all the while…
Steven: No man shall take my throne
(to his friend) Pug: He means his crapper he does
Carl’s Replacement: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Steven: To the pits of Tartarus I shall descend with only this disloyal knave to accompany me. All men shall be witness to my might and splendor.
And with a puff of smoke Steven disappeared. It is said he went to Trenton New Jersey to return with an army of mighty Guido’s but for now his tale shall end.
Pits of Tartarus (Trenton, New Jersey)
http://www.dvrbs.com/ccwd-ww2/WW2-H-Binnix-ARL-StoN.jpg
Iago: Ahem anyway I’m in charge now so lets gat cracking. As well I will now be accepting applications for a new assistant.
As the job had not been very lucky so far no one really stuck around to present a resume.
Steven Speilberg Dead!!!!!: Theflax, Roleblocker.
Alive list:
Yaropolk
A Very Super Market
miotas
thermal mercury
johnhughthom
YLC
Beskar
Captain blackadder
winston hughes
*Disclaimer*: sorry to any Italian Americans in the audience but i really hate Trenton AND Jersey Shore.
Ahem!
YLC is an innocent town with a lover. Come on, who's his lover?
Vote: Beskar
I am YLC's lover?Quote:
Originally Posted by johnhughthom
I have a lover? No, what the :daisy: Centurion!
Unvote: Beskar
Whaaaa-?
Vote: JHT
Quit it.
Huh? What am I doing? I'll stop giving you investigation results if you really want...
It's a little weird that you're voting for an claimed investigator that provided the town with accurate results in the previous round. :3Quote:
Originally Posted by A Very Super Market
Find Iago and kill him.
Secura, both Beefy and I revealed to you and we both die in a row, its an odd coincidence. Also, I'm really wondering here why I was targeted instead of the known investigator (to whom I also revealed). Now that I think of it, John only found out an SK. Maybe I'm a bit paranoid but some things here are just plain odd. Could John and Secura have found each other early in game with Secura sacrificing herself to help john the mafioso gain cred as investigator? I'll admit, the fact Secura never killed doesn't jive with that theory. Opinions?
Beefy didn't actually reveal per se, merely hinted that his role was similar to a red-shirt. I would quote the PM but I don't have it anymore; deleted alot of PMs after my account problem to clear my inbox so I could speak to moderators. He basically said that his role was useless, at any rate.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFlax
This doesn't make sense; my goal as a serial killer was to eliminate everyone, but I shirked that because I wanted to play the game as town. Why would I then sacrifice myself on behalf of the mafia?Quote:
Could John and Secura have found each other early in game with Secura sacrificing herself to help john the mafioso gain cred as investigator?
Which the host clarified for you; you revealed to me very quickly and I could have killed you right there and then, if I wished. After all, considering you were a roleblocker, you'd have been a big threat if I had chosen to follow my role and kill everyone.Quote:
I'll admit, the fact Secura never killed doesn't jive with that theory.
As I said, I want the town to win... so please have a closer think about what you're saying.
Well, it is entirely possible that John is a mafia character with an investigative ability. I mentioned this to John after he told me he is a copper.
I did think about what I said and pretty much admitted its farfetched. Though the fact that John is still alive after claiming investigator and causing your lynch troubles me. Also, John, as a revealed investigator with nothing to hide (if you are town) why haven't you revealed everyone you investigated since the start of the game? It would sure help for lynching the right targets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Secura
I'm guessing last night YLC was investigated and the night before Secura.
Miotas is innocent, I can't remember the exact role as I deleted my pms a few days ago. I think I missed my orders one night, then the Secura and YLC investigations.
Vote: AVSMQuote:
Originally Posted by A Very Super Market
I believe that there was a reason you were killed.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFlax
I had been hoping to post only in Shakespearean quotes, but I feel obliged to say something about the current mess...
Either Secura has committed what I see as one of the worst sins of mafia gaming - ignoring her role because she doesn't like it - or there's some kind of scam going on here.
This, unfortunately; it's not really something one would readily admit to if it wasn't true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
Of course, you'd say that either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Secura
Why would I? What reason is there for me to lie?Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
I was a serial killer, allied to nobody but myself, nobody would benefit from me lying to mislead you. I disliked my role and opted to play an alternative way, end of story. I was in a... delicate state of mind when the game started and I didn't want to start killing everyone.
Possible but unlikely...Quote:
Originally Posted by miotas
AVSM's post is very scummy, perhaps hes getting uptense by the thought of an investigator publicly revealing, it might be him next. I wonder if this game has protectors because if JHT stays alive for much longer I will be surprised, and a round after mr surprised, mr scummy arrives.
Nein, just a very inattentive townie.
Unvote: JHT
I hate that I end up looking so guilty in every game when I don't abuse my lurking abilities.
Bear in mind something I mentioned earlier; we know that Diamondeye was a protector role, and in the second night we see that someone had the good knowledge to outfit the targetted actor with a hard-hat... it wouldn't be too much of an assumption to believe that there is a second protector role in that case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury
Vote: Beskar
I agree with that thinking, Beskar convinced me to investigate you rather than him last night. I'm still not convinced by the arguments from the last lynch phase.
Vote: Beskar
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Vote AVSM
It would be a pretty ballsy move for a mafia to claim detective with results at this stage in the game if jht is that bally he desrves to win. Instead you are reeking of nervous scum. I suspect you voted for atheotos as a way to avoid claims of grouping and were siprised when it happend the way it did.
Let's make us med'cines of our great revenge...
vote: Beskar
I was going to argue against lynching him on the grounds that he voted against atheotes. But, on reviewing that day's events, I notice that he switched his vote before the end, and I am reminded of just how scummy he came across to me at the time.
Vote: AVSM
Because bandwagon on me is pointless, if not, scummy.
That is false, you said you was investigating me last night, not some one else. I said YLC was probably a better target due to saying he was in partnership with atheotes, but you never once said anything about not investigating me. If I was mafia, I would have obviously killed you.Quote:
I agree with that thinking, Beskar convinced me to investigate you rather than him last night. I'm still not convinced by the arguments from the last lynch phase.
If AVSM is mafia, why did he lynch atheotes?
Hmm... How about this:
unvote: Beskar; vote: Thermal Mercury
I thought he was first to do it and in my head I had thought that he was doing a distancing tactic but this is not the case.
unvote avsm
unvote: AVSM
Notice how TM manages to focus suspicion on AVSM for voting against john, whilst simultaneously putting john's innocence into question for having not been murdered, and also referencing the possibility of a protector, perhaps with a view to tricking that person into inadvertantly revealing his identity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury
I think your reading a bit much into it and posting a block of text without trying to say much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
Sorry for bothering. I'll just lurk here silently, shall I?Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
There is a difference between thoughtfull analysis and mindless gush that looks like a contribution but it is mearly and whole bunch of nothing. Why so defensive?
Mindless gush?Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Blackadder
If you want to offer an alternate opinion, then I'm keen to hear it.
At least I'm trying.
Because he is mafia.
Unvote; Vote: Winston Hughes
At least give a reason. This is getting ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Because of your behaviour, also, johnhughthom voted on me based on metagame reasons which he admitted to. Also, Centurion1 is completely late with the round, so might as well try to take out a mafia opposed to another townie death.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
Why do you think I tried to make a case against TM? I've been a bit lazy with this game up to now, but with some time on my hands, I figured to try some analysis. Given the half-baked choices previously on offer (yourself, john or AVSM), I figured anything was better than nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
If you lot think it gets us closer to finding the mafia, then go ahead and lynch me. I'm clearly not helping here, and I can understand why I might be a suspect, based on the atheotes lynch in particular. You'll be disappointed when you find out the truth, though.
I'll admit, if you are not the mafia, I'll be disappointed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
Don't sound hurt - if your not prepared to defend yourself and your ideas then don't blame the people who are willing to question them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
Your not. If you actually wanted to try you'd just flatout say "and due to this, I'd advise everyone to vote this way". You keep responding defensively, and your behavior is quite off. I actually have to agree with Beskar on that one. instead of sounding hurt and trying to play the victim card, argue your case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
Why's that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Defend them against what? It's not like anyone's actually addressed what I said. All I've had are comments like "mindless gush" or "you're reading too much into it", as if there's no possibility that TM actually is mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
Then your case is that TM is mafia? Why not say that. Why not explain your vote or give a theory, or evidence. Actually present a case, don't make a mystery novel out of it that we have to dechiper. All that has gotten you is people's suspicion, not their support. Your still acting the victim as well...Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
So pointing out the scumminess of his post doesn't count?Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
Okay, how about the fact that he (like me) is one of the people who opposed the atheotes bandwagon when it first got started?
Since you also proposed a case against Beskar, and I too am suspicious of him, then simply let him die today. If we are wrong, we are wrong - Beskar is usually helpful regardless, and then we can vote for TM.
Although Beskar switched his vote away from atheotes, in what might have been a bid to save a mafia buddy from the noose, he did vote third on that bandwagon iirc. I'd consider that a pretty risky move, if he were mafia.
Is Beskar the type to try that sort of thing?
If you're not sure he is, then TM (or any of the rest of us who voted against the atheotes lynch) would make better choices.
I switched because TheFlax was falsely claiming I was the Mafia when I wasn't because he suspected there were two kills a night, which we later found out was because of Secura wasn't killing because he decided to do this night 1 then after that round revealed to me because he was sure I wasn't the mafia.
Beskar claimed detective publicly in one game and survived several rounds - when he was a mafioso.
Desperate measures, if you remembered correctly as well. I prefer to keep quiet when I am a power role, however, this always backfires as because for some reason, I always end up on a first round lynch on me.Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
Okay, if you think it's his kind of move, I guess I'll unvote: Thermal Mercury; vote: Beskar.Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
Better him than me.
I still say you didn't have to - extremely ballsy move. Are you willing to help regardless after your death? The town could use a conscience :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
I never done it before, my attention wanes, to be honest. I am in the view that the "dead are dead". Also, no one even listens to me when I am a proven innocent townie and keep wanting to kill me, nevermind when I am dead. (IE: Creeping Darkness, Shadowfort, Star Wars, etc) (IE: Mafia XI, others for inactivity after dead)Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
I confirm this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Then - Unvote:, Vote: TM
I'm holding Winston accountable though.
For the record, this is who I roleblocked:
Night 1: Beskar
Night 2: Beskar
Night 3: Winston Hughes
Night 4: Yaropolk
Winston might have been onto something then.
Unvote; Vote: Thermal Mercury
Are you allowed to reveal that?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFlax
Nothing in the first post rules against it AFAIK.
Ah, okay.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFlax
unvote: Beskar; vote: Thermal Mercury
Nothing wrong with analyzing if you analyze all players and not just one, that's more or less random voting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
I think you should at least have the gall to stand by your vote regardless of the outcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
I opposed the Atheotes bandwagon because he got 4 consecutive votes for incredibly scummy reasons, such as him always being mafia or just no reason at all, you got lucky, it isn't as if the bandwagon was built on fact, but random victimizing.
Winston Hughes admits he was opposed to it as well, so that puts him at the same sort of suspicious level as me, but perhaps not in your eyes, I've haven't been as alert as I should have been in this game anyway.
vote: winston hughes
Yes, I understand that TM, and that is why I am holding him accountable - I'm not following blindly, just I have no leads this round.
Gah... The lack of links in the first post (and fully updated character lists anywhere) is making this really hard to follow, but...
If I'm reading this right, there was no murder on night 2, when Beskar was roleblocked...Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFlax
Sorry for being slow, but how is that being explained away?
You were one of a few whose posts I looked at, and struck me as the most suspicious of them. Not exactly a forensic approach, I'll grant you, but not random either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury
There was a murder, but they were protected. Read the write-up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
The Sergeant had some gold dropped on his head, but it didn't kill him, apparently because he was wearing a helmet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Has anybody mentioned being immune to night kills?
my internet is really patchy right now and slow to begin with so im trying to do a tally.
as soon as i get that write up coming.
Iago: Ok, no more shenanigan's who did you bums choose to be sacrificed in ym honor this phase?
Crowd: We choose The Fire Lord of Mercury.
Iago: Yes yes bring him before me.
The Fire Lord Mercury is brought before Iago bound in chains.
Iago: Tonight you are lucky for you shall be the sacrificial offering to the Gods of Crackers to save me from their wrath
TFLM: NOOOOO SPARE ME MIGHTY ONE!!!!!!!!!
Iago: Silence fool. BRING FORTH THE CRACKER GOD
A giant white parrot soon appears.
Cracka God: Yes what do you need mortal.
Iago: Please i fear you and your mightiness please accept this offering and leave me in peace for awhile.
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Narrator: And no ones really knows what happened next because the writer *cough* *cough* is a lazy bum with too much on his plate.
Thermal Mercury is dead Affiliation= Loyal townie.
Alive list:
Yaropolk
A Very Super Market
miotas
johnhughthom
YLC
Beskar
Captain blackadder
winston hughes
24hrs. And GO!
Pug the Cop was walking around and all of a sudden, did i mention it was very late at night...., he decided to enter a room. This room was occupied by what seem to be a parrot fetish hater. While Pug was walking around searching for uh certain goodies in the clothes drawer he was surprised by a voice......
Iago: Hey what the hell are you doing here.
Pug (holding a pair of whitey tighties): uh uh uh i'm here to do the wash.
Iago: Wait pug is that you?
Pug: Uh yes.
Iago: well this simplifies matters.
And with that Iago walked up to Pug and strangled the good cop to death with his contraband panties, uh i mean evidence.
Johnhughthom Dead Affiliation Town Cop
Alive List
Yaropolk
A Very Super Market
miotas
YLC
Beskar
Captain blackadder
winston hughes
24 hours. AND VOTE!!!!!!!
Me, Miotas, and Blackadder are innocent - this simplifies matters immensely.
AVSM has been lurking all game, Beskar's dodged the lynch on several occasions and we know Yaropolk is rather inactive altogether.
John found out whom Iago was last night, so John, please be of ghostly assistance if you will.
LOL!!!!!!!!!
I hopped on the atheotes bandwagon, for all that's worth.
Is that some form of Host hint? If so, forgive me, I'm tired and I will be analyzing the thread more thoroughly tomorrow.
no im just laughing i like being omniscient.
Yaropolk is usually active in the game when he is town (see Shadowfort), so i am going to have a shot with him.
Vote: Yaropolk
Edit: Also, the problem with that YLC, is that I don't think John can reveal?
I don't see anything in the rules against it, and there are other methods besides reveal.
Unless the host just wants to ban John from talking.