Diamondeye's tally is the same that I have locally, except that Beefy should have 2 votes instead of 2x 1 vote, but that doesn't matter really.
Sasaki your starting tally has CH with 3 votes, not 4, and like DE said, Double A unvoted acin.
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Diamondeye's tally is the same that I have locally, except that Beefy should have 2 votes instead of 2x 1 vote, but that doesn't matter really.
Sasaki your starting tally has CH with 3 votes, not 4, and like DE said, Double A unvoted acin.
Unvote, Vote: Warman
I shall not let Reenk have complete monopoly of everything funny.
I saw it, we're just experimenting with ties :tongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name
Just tell me who to vote for so it's a 3-way tie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Romanic
I have it at 8 for Warman, 7 for ACIN and 6 for Classical Hero. If Winston had just kept his vote where it was, you'd have your tie, Double A. But no.
I love day one.
Grrrrr
unvote, vote: ACIN
Unvote: Vote: Classical Hero
Unvote, Vote: Classical_hero Might as well try and help everyone get what they want :P.
Can we get a vote tally? I lost track again.
9 AKWC88 (Robbiecon, Greyblades, Glenn, autolycus, Diamondeye, Beskar, Sasaki, Winston Hughes, YLC)
8 A.C.I.N. (TinCow, God Emperor, Captain Blackadder, Romanic, Yaropolk, pevergreen, Reenk, Double A)
5 Classical Hero (Renata, ATPG, Seon, Rebel Jeb, Insanious)
3 Double A (Nightbringer, Classical Hero, Beefy187)
3 YLC (Choxorn, Ironside, A.C.I.N.)
2 ATPG (Thefluffyone93, Yaropolk)
2 Glenn (dcmort93, woad&fangs)
1 Seon (DeathisYonder)
1 TinCow (Cecil XIX)
1 Beskar (Secura, ByzantineKnight)
1 Khazaar (Khazaar)
1 Beefy187 (Skooma Addict)
1 Winston Hughes (johnhughtom)
1 Sasaki Kojiro (Motep)
1 ReenkRoink (Frozen in Ice)
4 Abstaining (Nictel, Csargo, landlubber, Jarema)
44/47 players having voted this round
Jarema did not unvote.
Thank you for your efforts to keep the tally... This should be correct.
How does Jarema need to unvote? He was abstaining from voting with his vote, which to me is a non vote, so he does not need to unvote in my books.
Well until you write the new revisited manual on Mafia, once you write Vote: ingame you cannot legitimately do so again until writing Unvote; .
There seems to be a lack of activity...
I think, looking at the tally and all previous posts, most would agree that a tie is most appropriate, so;
Unvote; Vote: Abstain
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8:00PM EST
8 AKWC88 (Robbiecon, Greyblades, autolycus, Diamondeye, Beskar, Sasaki, Winston Hughes, YLC)
8 A.C.I.N. (TinCow, God Emperor, Captain Blackadder, Romanic, Yaropolk, pevergreen, Reenk, Double A)
5 Classical Hero (Renata, ATPG, Seon, Rebel Jeb, Insanious)
3 Double A (Nightbringer, Classical Hero, Beefy187)
3 YLC (Choxorn, Ironside, A.C.I.N.)
2 ATPG (Thefluffyone93, Yaropolk)
2 Glenn (dcmort93, woad&fangs)
1 Seon (DeathisYonder)
1 TinCow (Cecil XIX)
1 Beskar (Secura, ByzantineKnight)
1 Khazaar (Khazaar)
1 Beefy187 (Skooma Addict)
1 Winston Hughes (johnhughtom)
1 Sasaki Kojiro (Motep)
1 ReenkRoink (Frozen in Ice)
5 Abstaining (Nictel, Csargo, landlubber, Jarema, Glenn)
44/47 players having voted this round
Glenn you edited your post which invalidates your vote. Which I believe means that Warman still has 9 votes to my 8. Since voting time is over, it looks like luck was on my side.
Can you show me a precedent of that excuse being allowed?
Perhaps the host can clear up two things;
Whether Jarema's vote will count, creating a tie, or whether my vote will, creating a tie, or if neither are legitimate - meaning AKWC88 is lynched.
It's not an excuse, it's the rule. For someone who just nailed someone for not Unvoting before re-voting, why is it that when you fail to follow the rules it is something to just let go by?Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
"-You may NOT edit your vote out of a post. You may edit a post with a vote in it so long as the edit does not affect the vote"
The Rules (emphasis added)
Sorry A.C.I.N., if Glenn's tally is right, his editing the post won't matter.
It is a newer thing. I believe either 'khaan or GH started the "votes in edited posts don't count" thing. Most, if not all hosts follow that now.
edit: Looks like I should have actually read the rules to this game before I started. Thanks, autolycus!
From what I have been told in previous mafia games by the mods, is that you don't know if the vote is changed when a post is buried 3 pages back (no is paying attention to keep track), so no editing should be allowed period. I have been called on this rule before.Quote:
Originally Posted by autolycus
The rules I quoted are Chaotix' ones on the first page of this thread. I think they're still accurate for this game :)Quote:
Originally Posted by woad&fangs
I think that Jarema relatively new to this, so we can be a bit lenient towards him for the first few times.
I do agree that changing votes should always be done in a new post and not editted out, since we should know all the changes made by players.
Quote:
Originally Posted by autolycus
http://kittensmewmew.files.wordpress...fuuuuuuuuu.jpg
Ha ha ha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
Well if my last vote doesn't count - nor does this one since it was also edited, which means one less vote for Warman, which means a tie.
You posted while I was writing my post! I didn't know!
vote: autolycus
Dang it, looks like my vote gun is firing blanks. I'll get you next day, auto!
So... depending on how we count the votes, ACIN is lynched, or Warman is lynched, or there's a tie.
Did we get teleported to Florida and sent back to November 2000, and I just didn't notice?
Unvote, Vote: ACIN
The case against either is moot...but let us let the first day end. ACIN, I am sorry.
Unvote, Vote: Warman
As I said the case is moot, but ACIN is more active than warman.
That's a bit late Motep.
Chaotix is finally online, hopefully this can be cleared up now.
Having read the rules, it looks like a tie to me.
But is there really a set end? A deadline to miss? I saw none.
On page 2 (80 posts per thread) Chaotix said the day would end at approximately 8pm EST or GMT -5.
Maybe 8:30 would have been acceptable, but that was nearly four hours ago.
Still, Cowticks hasn't shown yet, so maybe it will count.. ?
Given the approximation, I would assume that the day ends when the post is made to call the results.
But this is just my guess.
Which was over 4 hours ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaotix
Round has ended. The last vote counted was Glenn's abstain.
I'll begin the write-up shortly, you can send night actions if you wish.
I can't give a night action if i don't know if I am alive.
Well, that settles that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaotix
It's alright buddy, you'll get it next time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Motep
And to think, I almost had a vote that mattered...Quote:
Originally Posted by Csargo
:shame:
unvote....
vote: Pedro
Final tally (Rechecked):
ACIN: 8 (TinCow, God Emperor, Blackadder, Romanic, Yaropolk, pevergreen, Reenk, Double A)
Warman: 8 (robbiecon, Greyblades, autolycus, Diamondeye, Beskar, Sasaki, Winston, YLC)
classical_hero: 5 (Renata, ATPG, Seon, Rebel Jeb, Insanious)
Double A: 3 (Nightbringer, classical_hero, Beefy)
YLC: 3 (Choxorn, Ironside, ACIN)
Beskar: 2 (Secura, ByzKnight)
Glenn: 2 (dcmort, woad&fangs)
Seon: 1 (DiY)
ATPG: 1 (Fluffy)
TinCow: 1 (Cecil)
Khazaar: 1 (Khazaar)
Beefy: 1 (Skooma Addict)
Winston Hughes: 1 (johnhughthom)
Sasaki: 1 (Motep)
Reenk: 1 (Frozen)
Abstaining: Glenn, Nictel, Csargo, landlubber, Jarema
Jarema did not unvote before he changed his vote, so it was not counted.
Glenn's original vote change was not counted due to an edit; he corrected it with a later unvote, but made the same Abstain so his vote never changed.
Sorry if it appears I'm being a stickler, but with votes these close I must take into account the rules I set out.
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The result is, obviously, a tie between ACIN and Warman. Now you get to see what happens when there is a tie. Stand by, this will only take a few minutes.
Day 1
When the votes were finished on the first day, as promised Admiral Dane stood up and tallied them, then gave the result.
“It seems we have a tied vote between two members of this crew.”
Admiral Dane then looked a bit puzzled, as if he didn’t know what to do next.
“Hrmm… I didn’t expect there to be a tie. There’s no protocol for what happens after a tie.”
The inhabitants of the GFS Olympus now looked worried. What would Admiral Dane do?
“I think that, since you have named me as director of this process, you must yield to my judgment on this matter. I have not yet decided what must follow; you must allow me time to think. When I have decided, I will announce the procedure and it shall be executed.”
The GF crew looked satisfied with this answer, while the IDFH fighters were less than pleased. There was no telling what Dane’s policy toward the IDFH could be, nor what how this would affect his decision.
I suggest a contest - the man who can hold his color the longest in complete vacuum wins. So long as we can drag the winner back inside of course, so don't float to far away from the ship!
Or we could arm wrestle! Course, I can only use my offhand when it comes my time so I'm not sure how that'll play out.
Lynch both.
They should play Desert Bus. Whoever stops first dies.
I got 6 points on that game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
You should join Loadingreadyrun's Desert Bus For Hope charity drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name
The easiest way is to play Rock, Paper, Scissors. Two out of three wins. The loser dies naturally.
Is that the result of the tie? No result?
When does day phase begin again?
Hmm perhaps Chaotix has decided on a contest of sorts between the two tied players (EG: Rock paper scissors or something) and is waiting for orders from the players before commencing the write up.
Since its certain that he has prepared for this outcome (tie) beforehand, after all he did tell us we would see what happens with a tie, he's probably just waiting to "let us see what happens with a tie" when the orders/choices are in or something :yes:
This result was a lot like tofu bacon
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
As a note, the forum was down for the last hour, up 2 minutes ago as of this post.
The write-up seemed to imply that the first double lynch was a dud, but the next one will be directed by Michael Bay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Will the third one involve a bizarre lynch involving someone arbitrary that was only indirectly involved with making the tie? Because if so, I raeg quit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
You should really know this by now.
All lynch results on the org are bizarre.
Day 1 Continued
Admiral Dane sat and puzzled over this issue of the tie for a rather frustratingly long time. By the time he had made his decision, nobody really cared what was going to happen, and everyone was tired and grumpy.
There were two fighters who remained incredibly nervous due to their current status, however.
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“ATTENTION! I have made my decision. It appears to me that the fairest settlement of this issue is to put both suspects to death!”
There was much clamor amongst the crew, now. Both of them? On the first day?
“Diddy Kong and Professor E. Gadd. You are hereby found guilty of treason towards the GFS Olympus and her crew, and for that crime the only punishment is death. What do you have to say for yourselves?”
The Professor looked resigned to his fate. He looked at the floor.
“Well, I am getting old. I suppose my time was going to come eventually, so here is not a bad place. If it helps you to find the real culprit.”
Diddy Kong, however, being a monkey, could not speak very well. The expression on his face, however revealed everything. Diddy Kong was MAD. He began screaming and pounding the floor with his fists. Suddenly he ran towards the Professor and jumped on his head, and proceeded to claw at his face. The Professor screamed in pain.
“Somebody stop that monkey!”
But it was too late. Diddy Kong was now standing behind E. Gadd and using him as a shield, while holding him by the neck and holding a gun to his head. A Peanut Popgun, in fact. The monkey screeched something that everyone took to mean, “Nobody move or I’ll shoot!”
Admiral Dane was not amused by the monkey’s antics.
“You are aware that I have ordered both of you to die? You just made my job easier.”
And with that, he pulled out a large Beam Cannon and fired it at the two unlucky heroes. Diddy Kong screamed and jumped out of the way, but the Professor was annihilated by the blast. Diddy Kong was now flying around the room in his Rocketbarrel Jet-Pack, with both Peanut Popguns unholstered. He rained down a barrage of deadly legumes at the crew of the Olympus. Diddy Kong may not have been the one they were looking for, but he wasn’t going down without a fight.
Admiral Dane’s usual grimace held fast to his face. In a surprised display of force, he jumped high into the air and delivered a kick, full force, into Diddy’s face. The frenzied monkey rocketed straight into a wall, and the barrel exploded, leaving him in a crumpled heap of burning fur.
Dane checked the body, and confirmed that all vital signs had terminated. The body of Diddy Kong and what was left of Professor E. Gadd were placed in the Quarantine Bay.
“That concludes today’s business. I hope that these two were the culprits we were looking for, but personally I doubt it. They looked innocent, but highly concerned for their own survival. Everybody should proceed to their night watch positions.”
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Living: 45/47
Askthepizzaguy
autolycus
Beefy187
Beskar
ByzantineKnight
Captain Blackadder
Cecil XIX
Choxorn
classical_hero
Csargo
dcmort93
Death is Yonder
Diamondeye
Double A
Frozen in Ice
Glenn
God Emperor
Greyblades
Insanious
Ironside
Jarema
johnhughthom
Khazaar
landlubber
Link
Motep
Nictel
Nightbringer
pevergreen
Rebel Jeb
Reenk Roink
Renata
robbiecon
Romanic
Sasaki Kojiro
Secura
Seon
Skooma Addict
Thefluffyone93
TinCow
Winston Hughes
woad&fangs
Yaropolk
Yaseikhaan
YLC
Dead: 2/47
a completely inoffensive name - Professor E. Gadd (IDFH Survivalist)
AntiKingWarmanCake88 - Diddy Kong (IDFH Survivalist)
Reserves:
ArpeggiateTHIS
Kagemusha
Raskolnikov
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Begin Night 1
It will end at approximately 12:00 PM GMT tomorrow.
I will have a summary thread for all the write-ups soon.
Given the delay, I guess it's possible that one of us has the power to decide the faith of players involved in a tie, maybe even a scum player.
But player controlled or not, two lynches at the same time isn't a good result, so I think we should avoid ties in the future.
You guys were smart, I would have killed you all.
You should have been Diddy Kong, if I knew what you looked like I could easily picture you zooming around with a barrel jetpack blasting peanuts at people.Quote:
Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name
So it's quite likely that if we have a tie of a GF member and an IDFH member, the GF player will be spared...
Anyone care for discussion of this?
It's obvious that the GF are a separate town, if not a rival one, but to be given an advantage such as this they must be a minority.
It's been a bad day for both IDFH and GF though I think...
I agree this was not a good day for either IDFH or GF, although it could have been worse. Chaotix said that this game was influenced by Rubicon, so I would guess the survivalist aspect means that they could win with one of the mafia teams if they survived to the end. Given the alternation between Admiral Dane and Captain Falcon in counting the votes, my guess would be that on Dane days, if there's a tie, any GF players are spared, and on Falcon days, IDFH players are spared.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
I understood this to mean that we may only communicate with one person privately, ever. Is this a correct interpretation our dear beloved host?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaotix
This was my impression as well, but I don't think we should try and test it. Too high losses.Quote:
Originally Posted by autolycus
No, sorry if that was unclear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skooma Addict
It means communications with a single person at any given time; basically it's another way of saying no chatrooms or quicktopics, no group meetings between players unless I specifically give them their own quicktopic to do so.
So if I am reading tis correctly, when you PM someone it can only be one person at a time. I don't know if multiple PMs can be sent here.
Members can send pms up to 5 people at one. Senior members can do more.
Chaotix should really spell it out, but I believe the rule is:
You can send PMs to anyone you wish, but you can only send them to one member at a time, in otherwords, no use of "cc:" is permitted.
The rule on quicktopics and chats is clear enough I think.
We also have access to the "super-duper" babe thread and the "TosaInu uncensored" thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
Honestly, I've never seen such a polite man swear so much in a single sentence.
:laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Incedentially, how does one become a Senior Orgah?
You bribe Moderators and Staff, and give TosaInu a large donation under the guise of 'site maintenance'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
By vanquishing a large enough amount of the hordes of evil to level up to Senior Orgah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
But Choxorn, I can't edit :daisy: into people's posts.
Since no one else is answering this seriously:Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
Every so often, a group of people put forward candidates, it is then decided from those people.
Best way to become one: Always be nice, be helpful etc etc.
As for how I became one...well, no one could tell me, and I'm still struggling to figure it out after 3 years...
And now, because I can, heres the second oldest PM I still have, dated (what a coincidence!) 31/12/07
The title of the PM was Senior Membership. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ser Clegane
Grinding your teeth in anger yet? :beam:
You don't ask for it, you get chosen for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
Not entirely true - last time I checked i can do up to 20 at a time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
Shouldn't we have a morning update? Chaotix, did you mean 12:00 AM GMT? Because we're well after 12:00 PM GMT.
The night post is actually 13 hours late, it should of been posted a long time ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by autolycus
12:00 PM GMT-5. So, I'm 2 hours late. Apologies, starting the write-up.Quote:
Originally Posted by autolycus
I'm just going to delete that rule about the PMs because it's unnecessarily confusing and I get exactly the same effect by just not having it.
EDIT: The two rules about PMs now read:
-Private communications are allowed.
-Quicktopics, chatrooms, etc. are NOT allowed unless given express permission by the host.
Hopefully that is much clearer.
I feel cheated. I didn't get a PM from Ser Clegane :angry:Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
I got one from GeneralHankerchief with "Just joking :laugh4:" at the end. :cry:
Night 1
In space, it is impossible to tell when the day ends and night begins, because neither exists. The GF had long been using a standardized 24 hour clock to keep time while on a spaceship. It was hard to get used to, and sometimes soldiers would wander the ship, bored, if they were not tired. Tonight, some would be wandering around for other reasons…
In the central control chamber, Aurora Unit 242 was still active. Being essentially a supercomputer with artificial intelligence, she did not need sleep. 242 was currently watching the ship through the surveillance cameras that were still working, hoping to catch the intruders that way. As she was essential to the maintenance of the GFS Olympus, she was heavily guarded outside the entrance.
The air ducts, however, were not guarded. A small figure dropped out of the air duct and onto the floor of the central control chamber, unnoticed by the Aurora Unit. It made some sort of a signal with its hands, and suddenly the liquid in the tank 242 was suspended in froze. 242’s major functions were stalled, and the figure slipped away into the shadows.
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The bounty hunter Trace was moving through the narrow passageways of the Olympus, quickly and alertly. He knew he would be in danger, and knew that if he went to sleep, as was suggested of him, he might not wake up the next day. Trace figured the best defense was to be constantly on the move.
He was moving down one narrow corridor when he saw what appeared to be a large orange ball, rolling straight towards him. Curious, he stopped, and aimed his weapon directly at the ball. The ball rolled straight up to him and stopped.
Suddenly, and before he could react, the ball transformed into a figure Trace recognized instantly, and his body shook with fear. The Hunter bashed Trace in the head with her arm cannon, and Trace recoiled, starting to run away. He activated his cloaking device and sprinted towards the end of the hallway, hoping to escape.
The Hunter’s arm cannon began glowing with a pure, white light. She then pointed it forward, and released a charged beam that traveled incredibly fast, striking Trace in the back and disabling his cloaking device. Trace fell to the floor, unable to move due to the painful, burning sensation in his back. The Hunter walked up to his body, stepping on it, and pointed her arm cannon at his head. The Hunter fired.
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The engine room was mostly quiet, except for one GF Mechanic who was still awake, trying to get it working again. As long as the engines were down, the Olympus was stranded in Pirate space, and therefore in even more danger than it already was. The Mechanic was hoping to get a head start.
A small creature dropped from the ceiling onto the top of the piece of machinery the Mechanic was working on, making a noise as it landed. Its eyes glowed an unnatural blue color. The Mechanic looked up, seeing the creature, and became alarmed. He tried to get up and run away, but as soon as he made a move, electricity burst from the creature and into the machinery, moving through it and into the wrench that the Mechanic was holding, finally traveling through his body. The small creature continued to electrocute the Mechanic until he was burnt to a crisp, then bounded off through the engine room gleefully.
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A shadowy figure walked through the hallways of the guests’ quarters, its heels making a distinctive sound as they struck the metal underneath them. Suddenly it stopped walking, apparently finding the door it was looking for, and opened it silently.
Inside, sleeping in the bed, was a young man clad in white, with the wings of an angel.
The shadowy figure walked up to his bed, waited contemplatively for a moment, then forcefully seized him by the throat and lifted him into the air. He woke up with a jolt, and was instilled with fear by the figure’s red eyes, glowing with malice.
“Time’s up, Kid Icarus. You flew too close to the sun.”
Pit struggled, but could not break his captor’s grip. Its hand was exceedingly cold to the touch, and a chill rapidly spread through his body, until frost formed on his skin. Finally a look of sheer horror fell over his face as he recognized his killer. The same look remained frozen on his face.
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Back in the central control room, Aurora Unit 242 was still unable to perform any sort of action or call for help. She was conscious, but paralyzed in her frozen tank.
Suddenly, the doors were blasted open with a loud explosion. 242 could see a dead GF soldier lying by the doorway. Through the doorway walked a figure clad in armor of midnight blue. A dark aura surrounded her, and it was palpable even to the Aurora Unit.
The Dark Hunter lifted its arm cannon. Dark energy began swirling around at its tip as she charged up the beam. 242, frozen, could do nothing to defend herself. The Dark Hunter pointed its gun directly at the Aurora Unit and fired.
The blast of shadowy energy shattered the glass canister and the ice inside of it. The Aurora Unit, with nothing to suspend it, fell to the floor in a large crash, the wires connecting it to the system snapping and sparking. The Dark Hunter’s arm cannon reconfigured itself and fired a missile at 242, and she exploded into fragments of metal, circuitry, and organic tissue.
In the place where Aurora Unit 242 was floating was a small, glowing canister, marked with a symbol. The Dark Hunter walked up to it and touched it. It disappeared, and the Dark Hunter glowed with an unholy light.
With a new power at her fingertips, the Dark Hunter left the room, pleased.
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Living: 41/47
Askthepizzaguy
autolycus
Beefy187
Beskar
ByzantineKnight
Captain Blackadder
Cecil XIX
classical_hero
Csargo
dcmort93
Death is Yonder
Diamondeye
Double A
Frozen in Ice
Glenn
God Emperor
Insanious
Ironside
Jarema
johnhughthom
Khazaar
landlubber
Link
Motep
Nictel
Nightbringer
pevergreen
Rebel Jeb
Renata
Romanic
Sasaki Kojiro
Secura
Seon
Skooma Addict
Thefluffyone93
TinCow
Winston Hughes
woad&fangs
Yaropolk
Yaseikhaan
YLC
Dead: 6/47
a completely inoffensive name - Professor E. Gadd (IDFH Survivalist)
AntiKingWarmanCake88 - Diddy Kong (IDFH Survivalist)
robbiecon - Trace (GF Survivalist)
Choxorn - GF Mechanic (GF Survivalist)
Reenk Roink - Pit (IDFH Survivalist)
Greyblades - Aurora Unit 242 (GF Survivalist)
Reserves:
ArpeggiateTHIS
Kagemusha
Greyblades
Raskolnikov
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Begin Day 2
EDIT: It will end 48 hours from now due to the New Years holiday.
I will have results and updated role PMs for everyone who needs them ASAP.
So it seems likely we have multiple scumteams, that always makes things difficult.
vote:khaan
So this was pretty much the most useless first day of a mafia game ever... no one talked about anything, and now day 2 is just like day 1 but we are down 6 people now... we going to start the almost obligatory "talk about lynching inactives, which then gives people something to analyze to actually start the thread off?" Or are we just going to continue to use random.org to find which targets we should lynch? Just wondering.