I will replicate your chancellor vote too, since that is the one you rightfully pointed out as bad, I'm just doubting my other one too.
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I will replicate your chancellor vote too, since that is the one you rightfully pointed out as bad, I'm just doubting my other one too.
Honestly I am feeling lost and confused after talking about mechanics to the point where I feel my ideas for how to play this are really really bad, and you seem like a voice of reason that I can latch on to for now. Your insistence on ending mechanics talk feels like the right choice and not something mafia would be interested in at this point, so I am inclined to trust you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
Any strong villager or wolf reads?
seems like some good posts to meQuote:
Originally Posted by Visor
I would have thought you had seem enough of my games so far to know that I rarely have strong reads, especially at this stage. Anyway, Cass seems town, Zack's train of support feels really weird but his tone is town, Sooh is at least not W/W with you, but isn't looking that town, Monty is talking about mechanics a little more than I would have expected, but given that I have proved incapable of reading him he stays at null. Renata seems like her usual self along with Jabbz, both town for now. Everyone else is pretty much null due to lack of posts or being Barto.Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
Help help, my sarcasm detector is broken, are you being serious or not?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
WHY is it silly?Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
You know that if I do it im gonna listen to other people but am still likely to go my own way. And I don't think people are going to like that especially if town dies which numerically is more likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cass_
Plus im not totally up on the mechanism for this. If districts got a QT id be fine with it, if im just gonna have to go from what I see in thread im in trouble cause I have no idea how to iso on DM let alone here. Althou timewise this WOULD be the perfect week for me to do this.
im not against it im just not pushing it
Pizza said when recruiting ive played with a few here but tbh I don't remember my other game/s here and it was long enuff ago that I had to reregister. Ive played 1 with visor on perc and am in the middle of one atm on jn with him but that's about it.
is monstrbro our monstr/manbat??
Because the same would apply to a town player.Quote:
WHY is it silly?
I don't think any of us understand or have the perfect solution for mechanics here, so if you're Town definitely don't let that get you down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
Can you elaborate on Renata? I haven't got any particularly strong Town vibes from her posts/ISO at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
What's standing out to me so far is a focus mostly on mechanics and banter, and a possibly opportunistic vote on Jabbz who seems pretty Towny in follow-up.
Early game though and I have no meta on her. What makes you think she's Town?
There's a possibility here that Scum depend on Town pulling itself apart D1 and would take a deliberate step back from the heat of being a rep.Quote:
Originally Posted by dicetosser1
You taking a step back and making suggestions for someone else to take the wheel when you're a kind of "I'll do it MY way" player is kind of my point.
Who cares if people don't like your vote? If you like it and can defend it, why wouldn't you want it to count?
If you're Town just scumhunt. Do you. Justify your position and let us figure out if it's Scummy or not. Like normal.
ISO here is by going to the main gameroom, then clicking on the number of replies link next to this game, then the number of posts link next to the player you want to ISO.
I'm running with the theory that monstrbro has to be ours unless people confirm otherwise, I suggested to Pizza he might like this setup since he's hunting for new ways to Town, and how many players are gonna run with 'monstr' spelt that way?
not necessarily. Revealing it D1 is a bit out there but not that much but scum?? ideally they wouldn't want it outted if possible. keeping it secret can cause mislynches as town scrambles to figure out who caused the weirdness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
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Originally Posted by Cass_
cass how well does my defence of a gut read ever go on any site except DM where they know me?
I don't really care tbh they want me to rep I will rep and if they don't like my decision that's tough. Or I can sit back and scumhunt as im doing.
right now if I had my way id be lynching hankerchief that one IS a gut read plus a little logical poaranoia
and whoever this guy I just replied to is. (I ended up in a different screen somehow and cant see his name)
just gonna call him monty grin
:yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
Glad you're becoming proficient at reading me.
I'm having trouble seeing how the mechanics will work best for either party at the moment. It's all up in the air for me right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cass_
Like, a viable scum strategy could be to keep their own members in just enough groups to where they could swing the vote their way, while stacking obvious villagers together in other groups making those groups larger, but with less votes or influence. That's my understanding of gerrymandering, and I assume that's what we're trying to avoid here. I think keeping the groups as even as possible is the most pro-town, regardless of the amount of groups.
:love:Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
And I'm caught up.
Guys, please don't expect me to be here at night, or early morning, or even day or evening. Just don't expect me, that's all.
I'll attempt to make my opinions known, however with this much mechanics talk it's hard to assess who's being genuine or not. It's not hard to do mechanics talk when scum.
And if he continues in his position of rep?Quote:
Originally Posted by dicetosser
We've barely played togetherQuote:
Originally Posted by Sooh
True. You have an excuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
Vote: Winston Hughes
Vote: Visorslash
Vote: El Barto
I should be chancellor because for once I've actually got enough time to play properly. This also means I'm going to get killed early by the scum, which means you'll get another pick soon enough.
Visor should be our rep because he's rolled up here wearing his town swag. Not that it's beyond him to fake, obviously, but it's reassuring to see him wave it about.
El Barto should swing because he's trying to stretch a self-serving metagame justification for non-revealing behaviour to cover actively anti-town behaviour.
Only in like the first post. All downhill from there. Be on panic alert.Quote:
Visor should be our rep because he's rolled up here wearing his town swag. Not that it's beyond him to fake, obviously, but it's reassuring to see him wave it about.
Jabbz's tone seems quite different from my (admittedly very limited) experience of his scum game.
Could be any number of reasons for that, not least that he's playing to a different audience.
But I like how he's playing it so far. Gets a town point.
Do you ever act this hammy as town?Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
That's a genuine question, btw.
I don't recall having seen it before.
Reading Monty now. Ballsy if scum, but that's par for the course. So far it's all scenery chewing and mechanics. Not a great look.
My top criteria for rep is someone I think is a townie; failing that, as it's only day one, someone I think I can read. After the game I just played with dp in it, I hope I can read him and be comfortable he's a townie before too long. Certainly more of a chance there than anyone else in my group, none of whom I've played with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cass_
I'm not sure why not me. I may miss end of days this week and into the holiday weekend, but that might not have stopped me if I really wanted the job. I just don't.
Reaction to Visor is enormous christmas ham.
W/W not likely because it's not Visor's style.
W/W not impossible because it is Monty's style.
[QUOTE=Jabbz;2053728925
As to D1, there isn't much you can do anyway, so yeah, pressure votes are fine. There is almost no way to tell a wolf on day 1 unless they make a drastic mistake. Instead, all you can do is get people to be on record as much as possible on a broad swath of topics, so you have information to cross check in future days. If you have some magic wand that lets you know for a fact who a wolf is on day 1, then I'd love to learn about it, until then however, I'll stick with my pressure votes.[/QUOTE]
What is with this defeatism about day one from you and dp? Its hogwash, IMO. Of course you can catch wolves on day one, and for real reasons, too. I don't think my reads are much better than chance right now on the whole, but in another game I called out three wolves on day one -- voted two and vigged another -- and was right all three times. It can happen.
Your first post reminded me of one of them.
Why should I never be lynched, Renata?
Leaning the bold here tentative Towny tone for Dice.Quote:
Originally Posted by dicetosser1
I also want more from GH and Montmorency and can see TownDiceMind latching at these two.
Have never known him to be self conscious about how things go over so my own 'logical paranoia' says the other part still currently stands out.
@dice, what alignment were you on PerC and could you link me to your ISO from that game pls?
Visor scares me. So does Monty, who snowed me pretty hard last game. If it was me I wouldn't be voting for either one for rep. Too dangerous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cass_
Only when I'm town. Old-school.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
What?Quote:
Monty, who snowed me
:stare:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cass_
Pocketed, fooled, snowed, trashed, destroyed, take your pick of verbs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Are those all meant to be synonyms? :inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
i don't bite... muchQuote:
Originally Posted by Renata
why would i scare you, i was but a babyfaced young mafiate when we last played
Just to follow up on this, I've been thinking you're town and I guess I still am, but characterizing my vote as opportunistic gets under my skin and makes me itch in the worst way given it's possibly the best early-day-one scum tell I have. I don't find his follow-up posts to be towny either and I think you're the second person to have asserted that they are, for no reason as far as I can see. What did he say that makes you think a scum-Jabbz wouldn't do that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cass_
Kk, when you're caught up on his play could you elaborate on your lean/thoughts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
There's a bit more than mechanics talk now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sooh
Third person who likes Jabbz and I'm still wondering why.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
Standard brush-off, not convincing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Where's the solving, Monty?
You're top of the post pile, but it's all chatter and ham.
Give us some reads.
Because I like you and you've gotten a lot of bad games lately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
I guess you could say that Hardclaim: Liar is a pretty bold start for a scum but really I just like you and want to play a game with you and not have you lynched for dumb reasons on like day two.
Your subsequent posts do not worry me either.
hey renata, why do i scare you?
is it my tendency to post in all lowercase?
You have a rather terrifying reputation you've developed by now, King of Turbos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
He's still looking good to me, a bit better than before even. Indistinguishable tone from last game where he was town.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cass_
More like variations on a theme.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
He mentioned NKs twice in ways I don't understand, seemed to be suggesting there's something different about them this game than usual. I haven't figured it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cass_
I gave the correct answer. I won't dance to brush you on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
The mania is passing, so don't expect the rate to keep.
District One is looking town. District Three is looking powerful.
who's been telling porkiesQuote:
Originally Posted by Renata
i just click buttons as zack would put it
Visor, I wanted to save this for later but whatever:
Under what circumstances are you planning to not use your ability?
Woah...10 pages already. ppl making election promises?
catching up now.
when I'm not a representative?Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
@Schema come out and plaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
Does Monty's Town style include prolonged fishing for reactions? (Anyone?)Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
Liking/mindmelding most of Winston's entry to here.
Come back when you can admit that you know what I'm asking. ASAPQuote:
Originally Posted by Visor
:laugh4: at 'gotten'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
It all was my own doing. The D1 lynches were an unfortunate side-effect of my experiments in scumhunting-by-way-of-shitposting, and most of the early kills were a consequence of me tricking the scum into thinking I was a PR.
This makes me both happy and paranoid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
I've never seen Monty's town style. I will say that as scum he definitely has the willingness to pick fights with fellow wolves, which is what I guess Winston is getting at. I will say that so far he's not much reminding me of scum Monty from last game tone-wise. He was more deliberate then, less out there and weird. I hesitate to give him any town points for it, but there it is.
Must be very painful to do tallies at EOD.
I will try to do one as i read.
a guy who is actually willing to do work for the town! make him the Chancellor already!:thinking2:
Monty, do you think I am a wolf or villager (ignoring everything about my claim)
Missed this the first time. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
A large part of my suspicion has to do with your posts and posting, less with immediate mechanics of your claim. But you've acted in a way just suited to maximizing the baleful potential of mechanics. I hope you get elected. Then we can see how compromisable your alignment really is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
(If it were permitted, I would have just PMed you)
Thoughts beyond mechanics incoming?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sooh
okay so what is wrong with my posts and posting?Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
iirc, you have played only one game with Dp right? the one where he was mislynched D1?Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
The one where I got him killed, yes. I'm trusting I've learned the error of my ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
hmm...Voting the Chancellor to power and being the representative of your district is probably the best place for scum to be...Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
FOS: GH
Interesting note: given the timing, GH had that spiel saved to paste as soon as the game started. I suspect it is non-indicative, or even townish.Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
They're not town Visor. You know I can't answer that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
dicetosser feels relaxed.
Cool if scum.
Easy enough to fake it D1, but not a lynch candidate on current evidence.
:stare:Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
useful
i'm asking you to have a discussion with me here
copout answers like this lead only one way
Well, in that case you are not able to say if he is effective in scum hunting since his vote will be the one that matters. FOS: RenataQuote:
Originally Posted by Renata
I've said elsewhere that my number one priority is in electing someone I can read/who I've read as town. Both of those are true for Dp at this point and not true of anyone else in my group, although dicetosser looks OK.Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
There's nothing to discuss for the moment, unless you have the new ideas ready. I will be watching.Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
Well, Dp had not yet posted when you voted him as rep. TMI?Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
Yeah, and I will attempt to reread. See if it gets me anywhere. Kind of burned out atm, so don't expect greatness on D1 please.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
Who's "he" here?Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I miss the nested quotes. At least then I would be able to find out who people were talking about.
Sooh's posting lacks substance, looks scummy.
:laugh4: at the x-post.