Motion Detect 15er GAME THREAD

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

My brain works in mysterious ways!
Wait how much have you played with me? I remember one game tops.

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i don't remember the exact number but double digits lol

did you already forget

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Originally Posted by baudib1

@ladd

Thoughts so far?

I think everyone shouldn?t weigh in on HollowKatt btw

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alright, then i won't weigh in on hk

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Originally Posted by noraplus

really, i'm not your designated mason after all this time?

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After last game Logic said that Logic & Wisdom is the masons meant to be!
For what it's worth I'm a terrible team player until I get a read that I care about that loud people tries to push the other way.

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Originally Posted by noraplus

i don't remember the exact number but double digits lol

did you already forget

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Oh my memory is never good, I have "c4" knocking in the back of my head but that's completely untrustable.

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Originally Posted by baudib1

Should*

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i think his syn read was weird but his response to you was worse

like, it was so unprompted, and as his read is getting roasted, instead of defending his read, he goes "let's find out, if i'm wrong it's on me"

most villagers i know would elaborate on the damn read lol

felt like he was more focused on going "i'm being bold and passionate about my read" than actually talking and thinking about syn's alignment

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

Oh my memory is never good, I have "c4" knocking in the back of my head but that's completely untrustable.

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trust your memory lol

tfw you're literally an outed alt and the one person in the game who ever played with you forgets

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Originally Posted by noraplus

trust your memory lol

tfw you're literally an outed alt and the one person in the game who ever played with you forgets

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But you didn't do your signature "Wisdom is obvious town" :wowee:

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Originally Posted by noraplus

wisdom is obvious town

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wdym

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Originally Posted by noraplus

wdym

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Touch? xD <3

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

Touch? xD <3

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Touch?!

Why can't I make ` on letters >:

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Originally Posted by ladd

(btw visor what game were you talking about where hk did something like this as a wolf? you remember?)

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https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...24-Draft-Mafia

ok rask is v and wisdom seems town but i'll look over them again rq

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Originally Posted by ladd

so why do you expect to be able to identify villa syn in 2 post?

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I have a baseline for everyone that I've got experience with. If that baseline is met I lean them town until either the baseline isn't met or isn't necessary, or if they town tell in some way (rendering the baseline unnecessary). Thus far Syn has done nothing that deviates from the baseline. Should that happen I'll adjust my read.

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Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG

I also soulread dya?s entrance as pure

I?m down to YOLO and add steam to the ?let?s lockclear dya off 1 post? train, with the caveat that we sus ladd/Wisdom if wrong and not me :2thumbsup:

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why is it ok to soul read dya with one post as town but I'm getting literally railed for calling syn town? weird. might want to think about that one for a while. or not idgaf really.

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Originally Posted by dyachei

didnt HK act like this in the other recent game where he was the lone wolf?

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probs yeah, which is why it was so successful, it's my town play. all I had to do was win the F3 at that point.

wisdom's reason to v read syn is pretty sick if they're a wolf lol

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Originally Posted by noraplus

wisdom's reason to v read syn is pretty sick if they're a wolf lol

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Even better if HE's a wolf tbh!

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

Even better if HE's a wolf tbh!

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even better if the read is wrong?

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Originally Posted by noraplus

even better if the read is wrong?

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Oh don't mind me
I just don't like I don't really have a real read on him, just that Baudib's read is bad and makes Baudib town

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Originally Posted by hollowkatt

I have a baseline for everyone that I've got experience with. If that baseline is met I lean them town until either the baseline isn't met or isn't necessary, or if they town tell in some way (rendering the baseline unnecessary). Thus far Syn has done nothing that deviates from the baseline. Should that happen I'll adjust my read.

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thats fair enuf. what I find kinda hard to come understand as something you believe is

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Originally Posted by hollowkatt

In all seriousness how familiar are you with Syn because for me this is solidly in his town play. I don't generally see wolf Syn fuck off and make those kinds of posts, at least not until they're more established in the game. I associate what he's said thus far with his town play, hence my post. Your mileage may vary.

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te bolded above. saying syn is solidly in their town play after their first 2 posts seems wtf to me


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Originally Posted by hollowkatt

yeah I don't powerwolf, soz
tell you what, if you get syn chopped and he's a wolf I'll vote myself the next day till i die.

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the confidence in this post is just..weird




pzelda

and now i am gonna make a wolfy vote on a wolf i have never talked about :curtain:

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Originally Posted by noraplus

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...24-Draft-Mafia

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thx for the link btw

i got bored after reading 5 posts but maybe i'll give it a better look tomorrow

also have we played before?

would it be fair of me to say c4 is probably a villager simply because his early game hasn't looked nearly as forced/awkward as the other recent game where he got caught d1

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Originally Posted by ladd

thx for the link btw

i got bored after reading 5 posts but maybe i'll give it a better look tomorrow

also have we played before?

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judging by wisdom's earlier post I'm guessing c4

lolme if not

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Originally Posted by ladd

thats fair enuf. what I find kinda hard to come understand as something you believe is

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te bolded above. saying syn is solidly in their town play after their first 2 posts seems wtf to me


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the confidence in this post is just..weird




pzelda

and now i am gonna make a wolfy vote on a wolf i have never talked about :curtain:

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dang that was my secret wolfread too

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral

judging by wisdom's earlier post I'm guessing c4

lolme if not

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preposterous of you to think so

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Originally Posted by hollowkatt

I have a baseline for everyone that I've got experience with. If that baseline is met I lean them town until either the baseline isn't met or isn't necessary, or if they town tell in some way (rendering the baseline unnecessary). Thus far Syn has done nothing that deviates from the baseline. Should that happen I'll adjust my read.

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but how did he meet that baseline to begin with?

or how did they villa tell otherwise?

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Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5

preposterous of you to think so

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:2thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral

judging by wisdom's earlier post I'm guessing c4

lolme if not

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oh lmao

i do remember now that they are a c4 alt

i was gonna say they seem like a villager who will play a good game, guess now the pressure is on

cap's reads were pretty weird yeah and the yolo tr for not using meta was particularly tmi'y, but part of me was thinking "does this fit with hk" just because tring a wolfbro for agreeing with their read is pretty bold

but maybe i'm getting ahead of myself on hk

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Originally Posted by ladd

oh lmao

i do remember now that they are a c4 alt

i was gonna say they seem like a villager who will play a good game, guess now the pressure is on

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I do think he's been villagery so far.

think ladd's town

C4 town, Dya town, Baudib town

At least one wolf in Ladd/PZelda/Logic

^ My best post so far, fight me Visor!:3

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Originally Posted by dyachei

didnt HK act like this in the other recent game where he was the lone wolf?

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which game was that/where?

Vote: pzelda

nora is c4? Okay

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Originally Posted by noraplus

cap's reads were pretty weird yeah and the yolo tr for not using meta was particularly tmi'y, but part of me was thinking "does this fit with hk" just because tring a wolfbro for agreeing with their read is pretty bold

but maybe i'm getting ahead of myself on hk

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actually even if he isn't with hk, pzelda (Capage)'s reason for TRing him is pretty slim. :sparkleshrug:

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Originally Posted by noraplus

think ladd's town

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https://media.giphy.com/media/iMJTuh...VjN3/giphy.gif

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Originally Posted by ladd

oh lmao

i do remember now that they are a c4 alt

i was gonna say they seem like a villager who will play a good game, guess now the pressure is on

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~:cheers:

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

C4 town, Dya town, Baudib town

At least one wolf in Ladd/PZelda/Logic

^ My best post so far, fight me Visor!:3

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hmmyes. Wisdom can be town for now too

pzelda is capage?

oh man alright, here I thought I was playing with random cfc'ers lul

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Originally Posted by noraplus

cap's reads were pretty weird yeah and the yolo tr for not using meta was particularly tmi'y, but part of me was thinking "does this fit with hk" just because tring a wolfbro for agreeing with their read is pretty bold

but maybe i'm getting ahead of myself on hk

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ya i was thinking about that too

on level 0 i am inclined to think zelda/hk arent both wolves but ofc it's not impossible

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Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG

pzelda is capage?

oh man alright, here I thought I was playing with random cfc'ers lul

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He is one afaik (at least played and hosted a good chunck of games there)

zelda start seemed super struggly and then their read on YOLO is like - would a villager really care about that out of all the things itt?


+if my recollection isnt wrong zelda tends to be a (mostly) obvious villager as villa and an awkward wolf if wolf

tho i may be off on this last part, it's just from memory

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Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG

pzelda is capage?

oh man alright, here I thought I was playing with random cfc'ers lul

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he was in the other org game i played, which was otherwise random cfc'ers, so i just assumed he is one lol

I'd want a tally rn.

But I want Visor to have the time.

me/nora/rask/yolo are prob all villas

with this gem i bid y'all adieu. I'll pop in when i can but i'll most likely be fully back only closer to EoD

If nora is C4 then that's a thin V read too, feels freeflowy chill villa vibe

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Originally Posted by ladd

zelda start seemed super struggly and then their read on YOLO is like - would a villager really care about that out of all the things itt?


+if my recollection isnt wrong zelda tends to be a (mostly) obvious villager as villa and an awkward wolf if wolf

tho i may be off on this last part, it's just from memory

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i remember finding him pretty weird in the one game we played together, not this kind of weird tho, just sorta like he was off floatng in his own world and trying to communicate to him was a struggle

idk if that translates to anything meaningful here

i gtg but i think it's been long enough to say hk's reentrance was bad lol

rask
c4
baudib

~roughly where I'm at with villa leans rn

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Originally Posted by Syn

vote: dyachei

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Why are you voting them instead of pzelda? (since you posted he was faking reads and nothing about Dya).

could maybe see wisdom and yolo but i'd rather let that marinate for a bit

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Originally Posted by ladd

zelda start seemed super struggly and then their read on YOLO is like - would a villager really care about that out of all the things itt?


+if my recollection isnt wrong zelda tends to be a (mostly) obvious villager as villa and an awkward wolf if wolf

tho i may be off on this last part, it's just from memory

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i mean awkward is prolly the only way to describe their posts till now

so if that's his m.o as a wolf then lol

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

actually even if he isn't with hk, pzelda (Capage)'s reason for TRing him is pretty slim. :sparkleshrug:

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@noraplus: I didn't understand your post at first, but yeah you are getting ahead of yourself on hk. For science though: w!pzelda might just be trying to wifom some town spews down the road (ie. post a potato read on his wolf buddy to get the village to think he was actually TMIing him villa). But that's really a stretch. or gym. nvm

Change of topic: Visor is a wolf.

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Change of topic: Visor is a wolf.

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https://media.tenor.com/j_TUtIOSyWQA...-star-wars.gif

Schh Rask that's my secret maybe probably worthless read

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Change of topic: Visor is a wolf.

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https://i.pinimg.com/originals/71/5c...c1295d5217.gif

spoiler footage of nl killing rask n1 for posting this

:curtain:

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Originally Posted by ladd

me/nora/rask/yolo are prob all villas

with this gem i bid y'all adieu. I'll pop in when i can but i'll most likely be fully back only closer to EoD

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good news that you think you're probably a villager

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Why are you voting them instead of pzelda? (since you posted he was faking reads and nothing about Dya).

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soul reads bad

VOTE TALLY

Syn 2 Visor baudib1
hollowkatt 2 noraplus EnderWiggin
pzelda 2 Raskolnikov YOLOSWAG
Ladd 1 Wisdom
dyachei 1 Syn
Raskol 1 hollowkatt
No Lynch 1 Ephemeral


EOD: 2.2.23 7pm eastern (approx 26 hours, 20 minutes from now)

Should be right

THink Ladd voted pzelda but maybe there is a format issue

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Change of topic: Visor is a wolf.

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his hk take seemed reductive, idt i have anything else against him

i'll wait a little longer until i decide wisdom is obvious enough that i have to force them into everyone's town lists

ladd's posts just seem more r e a l than either of his wolf games i've seen and his takes are generally good

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Originally Posted by noraplus

i'll wait a little longer until i decide wisdom is obvious enough that i have to force them into everyone's town lists

ladd's posts just seem more r e a l than either of his wolf games i've seen and his takes are generally good

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sell me on wisdom v?

I'm playing with the idea because of vague vibes/energy reads but I'm assuming their wolf game is better than that

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral

sell me on wisdom v?

I'm playing with the idea because of vague vibes/energy reads but I'm assuming their wolf game is better than that

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yeah they're pretty good at recreating the same vibes at least

it's a bit tough to explain beyond: their solving is real? like i know they make some outlandish reads sometimes, but i feel like i can generally see where they come from, and it feels like they're flying on really specific gut urges that would be hard for a wolf to make up

like when they said "baudib's bad syn push made me biased toward syn v", that's maybe something a wolf would come up with specifically to pocket syn but i doubt it lol, i just think it's a really weird thought to have with tmi, and it lines up with the timing of their initial reads on syn and baudib too

@ladd

this post in particular (but really the a lot of the posts in that ISO leading up to it too)

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Change of topic: Visor is a wolf.

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Unsportsmanlike conduct, 15 votes, automatic first lynch.

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Originally Posted by noraplus

yeah they're pretty good at recreating the same vibes at least

it's a bit tough to explain beyond: their solving is real? like i know they make some outlandish reads sometimes, but i feel like i can generally see where they come from, and it feels like they're flying on really specific gut urges that would be hard for a wolf to make up

like when they said "baudib's bad syn push made me biased toward syn v", that's maybe something a wolf would come up with specifically to pocket syn but i doubt it lol, i just think it's a really weird thought to have with tmi, and it lines up with the timing of their initial reads on syn and baudib too

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I think I can see where you're coming from with this yeah

alright thanks:2thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral

can you elaborate on this?

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HK as town tends to do risky/off the wall scumreads more than townreads, and very rarely do I see HK commit to a "THIS IS 100% TOWN" so early on D1.

Where as wolf I've seen him make that turn play more.

Hope that makes sense.

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

Dya v :3

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Last time I saw this kind of read this early Dya was a wolf. :shot:

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Originally Posted by noraplus

his hk take seemed reductive, idt i have anything else against him

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i don't get it

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Originally Posted by dyachei

didnt HK act like this in the other recent game where he was the lone wolf?

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Yes.

This is exactly why I'm wolfreading him lmao.

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Originally Posted by noraplus

fwiw wisdom basically always makes esoteric early v reads for hard-to-relate-to reasons at the starts of games

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Agree.

I just put it out of mind and circle back later tbh.

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Originally Posted by Visor

@ladd

this post in particular (but really the a lot of the posts in that ISO leading up to it too)

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Thanks that makes sense

Hk posts this game are def pretty rough

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Originally Posted by ladd

Thanks that makes sense

Hk posts this game are def pretty rough

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where you at on pzelda?

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Originally Posted by Visor

where you at on pzelda?

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I think he is wolfy

vote:pzelda

(I was already voting him but i formatted the vote badly)

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Agree.

I just put it out of mind and circle back later tbh.

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I am in board with the villa read on Wisdom'famgo though. (no immediate agenda aorn if I was to be concice).

nice

Vote: pzelda

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Originally Posted by Visor

i don't get it

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could hear more about how you were reductive y :curtain: