Mafia II: The sequel to the best-selling forum game [Concluded]

whispers from the dead: just when i say someone is too quiet, they start reappering. like Hiji.

Oh crap, sorry, sorry.

Well, in that case then

CRATERUS!

DemonArchangel

Silver Rusher. I think I saw him enjoying a spicy meat-a-ball. Sure sign he's mafia.

I think its StormCrow.Off with his head.:skull:

So says an ex-Maffiosi which made his last kill with a katana, the same weapon which was used again this round ~:rolleyes:.

Silver Rusher.

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Originally Posted by Stormcrow

So says an ex-Maffiosi which made his last kill with a katana, the same weapon which was used again this round ~:rolleyes:.

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:laugh4:

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Originally Posted by Stormcrow

So says an ex-Maffiosi which made his last kill with a katana, the same weapon which was used again this round ~:rolleyes:.

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I say so,becouse i smelled an innocent suggestion to frame this ex mafioso.Now that im retired.I have all the intentions to find these newbie mafiosos and get them executed so i can enjoy my retirement in peace.So why not just confess Stormcrow?~:wave:

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Originally Posted by Stormcrow

So says an ex-Maffiosi which made his last kill with a katana, the same weapon which was used again this round ~:rolleyes:.

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This round's killing methods were a gun and fire. No katana in sight. :dizzy2:

Wrapping it up pretty soon. Get your votes in.

My bad, I recalled this post :

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=171

You may be rehabilitated after all Kage...still keeping an eye out though ~:eyebrows:.

It'd be nice if we got to pick a way of disposing of the suspects as well ~:).

Stormcrow

Maybe make the punishment fit the crime? If you blow someone to pieces by a land mine and their your corpse covered with popcorn, then perhaps you ought to have the same done to you?

Alexander the Pretty Good

Silver Rusher

For the first time, the townspeople had a clear whipping boy. After a series of ties, run-offs, and all-around close calls, finally a clear result would be yielded. All they had to do was take Silver Rusher, kneel him on the chopping block, and watch Chief of Police Beirut swing away.

SR had been quiet for the last part of the voting, when it became apparent that he would be executed. He was off in the corner, what looked like writing something. He had just finised and put it into his pocket when Beirut hauled him up and dragged him off to the chopping block. As SR got into position, Beirut finally spoke.

"You can write notes later, son. Right now it's an execution."

"How can I write notes when I'm dead?!"

"...oh yeah. My mistake. Guess it's just too bad for you." He swung his axe and Silver Rusher departed from this world.

As his lifeless body tumbled over, the note rolled out of his pocket. Beirut picked it up and read to the crowd.

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Originally Posted by Silver Rusher's note (delivered by PM- his own words)

I am very sad to see that you fools have put me next in your hopeless witch-hunt. I am not a member of the mafia. I am too squeamish to even watch somebody pouring salt on a slug, let alone kill somebody. Over and over again have you executed people without any proper reasoning, people who are innocent. If you want to protect yourself, you must think: what clues do the mafia give away? I was wrong to accuse Ignoramus, I simply did it out of anger that he changed his vote to me. But he had the right idea. You should all follow his approach when finding the true Mafia.

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Beirut folded up the note. "Words to live by, gentlemen. We must keep this in mind if the mafia still strike."

And so the townspeople departed with lots of thoughts in their heads, especially concerning SR's alleged guilt.

Here is the voting total for Session 3:

Silver Rusher: 7 :skull:
DemonArchangel: 4
Craterus: 2
Stormcrow: 2
Ignormaus, Alexander the Pretty Good: 1 each

Still alive:
Ice
SSNeoperestroika
Lehesu
Uesugi Kenshin
DemonArchangel
Hiji
Destroyer of Hope
Lemur
Crazed Rabbit
Ignoramus
Tiberius
Dutch_guy
Divine Wind
Stormcrow
Kommodus
Kralizec
Cowhead418
Craterus
Kagemusha
UltraWar
Alexander the Pretty Good

Neither killed nor executed but still dead:
evil_maniac from mars
littlelostboy

Killed:
Eclectic
Zalmoxis
The Spartan
Peasant Phill
Sasaki Kojiro
discovery1

Executed:
AggonyDuck
Csar
Silver Rusher

whispers from the dead: i knew it wasnt you Silver.

Get Craterus its him he's the killer or maybe its DemonArchangel
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Kill one of those two.
Believe me i know the truth I'm dead.

Silver Rusher is right, but what clues do the mafia give away? Are they more inclined to post less or more in order to draw attention away from themselves? Will they vote mindlessly or give a reason for their accusations? Do their methods of murder give clues? Perhaps ex-mafioso Kagemusha can shed some light on this matter.:inquisitive:

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Originally Posted by Cowhead418

Silver Rusher is right, but what clues do the mafia give away? Are they more inclined to post less or more in order to draw attention away from themselves? Will they vote mindlessly or give a reason for their accusations? Do their methods of murder give clues? Perhaps ex-mafioso Kagemusha can shed some light on this matter.:inquisitive:

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Hmm..These are trade secrets..:book: Nope seriously.I think there isnt a one way to play this game as mafioso.There are so many different kind of tactics then there are players.
This time its harder for the mafiosos to play becouse they have to post how they kill their victims,so a mistake there can lead us on their tracks.But on the other hand it also creates opportunities.
So unless Mafioso doesnt make a complete mistake,we are pretty much in the dark and we just have to trust in our own gut instinct to reveal them.:juggle2:

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Originally Posted by Cowhead418

Silver Rusher is right, but what clues do the mafia give away? Are they more inclined to post less or more in order to draw attention away from themselves? Will they vote mindlessly or give a reason for their accusations? Do their methods of murder give clues? Perhaps ex-mafioso Kagemusha can shed some light on this matter.:inquisitive:

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I thought towards the last few rounds of the first game it seemed clear that
Kagemusha was in the mafia, if only based on what he was posting. By that time
though, I was dead. Of course, the mafia this time might be slightly better at
acting the part of the innocent. ~;)

whispers from the dead: becareful Kage for your wisdom, the mafia may target you next.

I'm at a disadvantage, seeing as I hardly know anyone's characters. But still try to find out.

Man, being the first to vote for Silver Rushers execution really makes me proud. Kinda like Joseph McCarthy. :laugh4:

Seriously though, I really thought he was trying to hard to appear innocent.

There were 2 maffia members from the start, right?

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Originally Posted by Kralizec

There were 2 maffia members from the start, right?

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Correct. I'm telling you now at least one of them is still alive.

that doesnt help!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is it just my impression or are the dead more active than the living?

Hmmmmmmmm, did we dig their graves deep enough?

Hmmmmmmmm, did we dig their graves deep enough?

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Originally Posted by Cowhead418

Silver Rusher is right, but what clues do the mafia give away? Are they more inclined to post less or more in order to draw attention away from themselves? Will they vote mindlessly or give a reason for their accusations? Do their methods of murder give clues?

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The last time I asked a question like that I got lynched by my fellow villagers. Thus I am not asking such questions this time, and I'm glad you have the guts to do so.

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Originally Posted by Lemur

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Originally Posted by Cowhead418

Silver Rusher is right, but what clues do the mafia give away? Are they more inclined to post less or more in order to draw attention away from themselves? Will they vote mindlessly or give a reason for their accusations? Do their methods of murder give clues?

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The last time I asked a question like that I got lynched by my fellow villagers. Thus I am not asking such questions this time, and I'm glad you have the guts to do so.

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The "a spicy meat-a-ball" comments are more likely to arouse my suspicion.

Mhm.

Is this story gonna write itself?

C'mon, I usually have at least one PM by now.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Is this story gonna write itself?

C'mon, I usually have at least one PM by now.

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Is that genuine? Because if it is, you've provided the villagers with valuable clues. Of course, it could be a deliberate red herring.

yeah that was info.. if you would check and see which people had not been online for a while it might have been them..:book:

Lemur and SSNeoperestroika are definitely innocent if it is true.

I'd say good work, but remember there are two mafiosi and maybe one's PM'ed GHC already.

But why would GH say "C'mon, I usually have at least one PM by now."

Edit: Also, one of the mafiosi may have kicked the bucket already, although I doubt Silver Rusher was one.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Correct. I'm telling you now at least one of them is still alive.

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Oh and something else...is the detective still alive too ?

Or was Sasaki really the detective, and SSNeoperestroika really innocent ?

If he wasn't the detective, he just cleared his co-mafioso, by saying he was.

:balloon2:

All this speculation... :laugh4:!

I was just telling the main character(s) to hurry up with the PM(s) so I could post the kills quickly. I was trying to get them in now (Friday morning) because I won't be able to be on again until Saturday.

Oh well, you guys are just going to have to wait a bit for the next update...

https://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4615/ghc6669dx.jpg

This is all of the devil I tell ya!!

BTW: Nice game :2thumbsup: !!

Why didn't you just PM them :eyebrows:

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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane

https://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4615/ghc6669dx.jpg

This is all of the devil I tell ya!!

BTW: Nice game :2thumbsup: !!

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He's right! This game is all a scam! GHC is really the mafia and we must lynch him instead!:laugh4:

Hi i'm back after 1 week of no internet... did I miss much?

Later that day, Beirut revisited the execution square. He picked up the note on the ground and saw that there was writing on the other side. It said:

"Whenever you vote for somebody, use evidence to back it up. Do not vote a) because that person has any random and unconnected piece of evidence associated with them, such as AggonyDuck's name containing the word duck or b) because somebody else voted for that same person, but did not use any credible evidence to back it up. Also, do not vote for somebody because they are trying to help find the mafia. This is ungrateful and it simply means that people will be too afraid to do any real detective work. And most importantly, use evidence from previous assassinations/executions to help find the killers.

Have said that, the mafia will probably use what a have just written to further their plans so be extra vigilant!"

Beirut curled the note up in his hand and said "That's weird. I usually check both sides of pieces of paper when I read them"

Rats, my 666 goes away... :cry:

Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet.

Afternoon in the Frontroom. All is quiet.

Evening happens in the Frontroom. All is still quiet. It appears that the killing is over at last. The villagers, jubilant, throw an impromtu celebration at the tavern where Eclectic died and The Spartan got drunk. Almost everybody came, and the party would definitely go long into the night. About an hour and a half into the celebration, when everyone was good and rowdy, a hearty drinking song started. Chuckling, SSNeoperestroika made his way into the bathroom. As he was doing his business at a urinal, another person made his way in, and took the urinal right next to SSNeo. The two nodded, but then SSNeo noticed something...

A gun clearly showing, positioned at the now-revealed mafioso's hip. SSNeo, realizing he's pretty much a goner, tries to scream that a mafioso is in the bathroom. However, said mafioso gets there first and puts his hand over SSNeo's mouth.

A silent fight commences, with each side having different objective. Mainly, SSNeoperestroika is trying to scream, and the mafioso is trying to kill SSNeo without anybody noticing. Luckily, someone realizes an opening. Unluckily, it's not SSNeo. The mafioso starts slamming SSNeo's head against the sink repeatedly, timed with the drinking song still going on in the main room. Eventually it works, and the population of the Frontroom has decreased again. The mafioso makes sure that his body is free of blood, and walks out the back door.

SSNeo's body is discovered soon enough, and after that the party disentigrates rapidly. Eventually there's only Crazed Rabbit and one other villager, drinking their troubles away. The door opens. CR expects it to be somebody performing an autopsy, but he's dead wrong. A girl from the Babe Thread, "dressed" in her thread outfit, makes her way in. Slowly.

Of course it reduces Rabbit's world to a very tiny field of view, and him having lots of alcohol in his system she looks about ten times more beautiful. Wait. Alcohol. Yes, he needed that too if tonight was to be successful. Strike For the South's rules of alcohol consumption are in mind when Rabbit takes a sip of beer, but they quickly vanish, replaced with a warning:

My mouth is burning! That other villager poured acid into my beer when I was looking at that babe! Must... get.. water...

Not caring at all about the fact that there was a dangerous killer next to him, Rabbit rushes and tries to find water. Anywhere. The mafioso calmly pulls out a pistol and dispatches Rabbit with two shots. He then runs off with the babe in the night.

Sometime later, around midnight, Chief of Police Beirut makes an announcement to the villagers.

"Gentlemen," he begins, "it's going to be a long night. So get voting."

I reckon that Dutch_Guy could have something to do with this...

Hmm I think someone with a grudge killed both men, and since they both have right wing sympathies, I'm going to have to vote for Lemur as the killer

Calling names isn't sufficient UltraWar, why would I kill these people.

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Dutch_Guy, you're conveniently forgetting that both men, I believe, were named as innocent by the detective. Although it's all debatable about how true any of that was. Clearly, somebody believed it.

Nice bit of misdirection. Clever, in fact. I vote Dutch_Guy.

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P.S., if you'd bothered to notice, you would also see that I had been posting when G.H. complained about not getting mafia updates. That's two strikes, Dutch.

whspers from the dead: it stll think its Tiberius.

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Originally Posted by Lemur

Dutch_Guy, you're conveniently forgetting that both men, I believe, were named as innocent by the detective. Although it's all debatable about how true any of that was. Clearly, somebody believed it.

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Yeah, but one can still hold a grudge against a non-mafioso, as you are well aware of - why you ask ? Well only you can know really...


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Well, you are taking my advice, I see! It is clear to me why these two were killed: they had been proven innocent and so it was no longer possible for any attention to be put on them. If I were alive I would vote for Dutch_Guy.

Oh, by the way, a suggestion for any future Mafia games: A superman character, who at each killing/detective investigation session would choose one person to try and save. If both the mafia and 'superman' choose the same person, the superman character saves the person and he/she is not killed. Their saving would be included in the report, but if the superman makes the wrong decision they would not be mentioned. I think this would work well, especially in situations such as the one with SasakiKojiro where the mafia would be wasting a kill if the actually did attempt to murder him. Not only this, but the superman would also have to think psycho-strategically (is that even a word?) about who the mafia would go after next.

I vote for Dutch Guy, only a mafioso would try to make this political when it was clearly not.

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Originally Posted by Silver Rusher

Oh, by the way, a suggestion for any future Mafia games: A superman character, who at each killing/detective investigation session would choose one person to try and save. If both the mafia and 'superman' choose the same person, the superman character saves the person and he/she is not killed. Their saving would be included in the report, but if the superman makes the wrong decision they would not be mentioned. I think this would work well, especially in situations such as the one with SasakiKojiro where the mafia would be wasting a kill if the actually did attempt to murder him. Not only this, but the superman would also have to think psycho-strategically (is that even a word?) about who the mafia would go after next.

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An interesting idea, but I see one major flaw. This would allow the detective to declare himself immediately, and he would have the protection of the superman character until he has discovered the mafia members. Perhaps it could work if you substitute the superman for the detective.

Its DemonArchangel. I have no doubts :listen:

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Originally Posted by Cowhead418

An interesting idea, but I see one major flaw. This would allow the detective to declare himself immediately, and he would have the protection of the superman character until he has discovered the mafia members. Perhaps it could work if you substitute the superman for the detective.

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Yes, I realised that myself after I posted it. Perhaps the superman character would not be able to try and save the same person twice in a row?

Dutch Guy

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Originally Posted by Silver Rusher

Yes, I realised that myself after I posted it. Perhaps the superman character would not be able to try and save the same person twice in a row?

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Would Superman be able to be assassinated? If so, the mafia have a very quick answer to the problem.

Superman is a stupid idea anyway. :idea2: This game is good how it is.

Tiberius was acting very odd in the chat yesterday, and though he didn't kill me this round I am still suspicious of him. He was asking too many questions. One might even think that he wasn't afraid of looking suspicious because he could kill me if I was too suspicious.

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Originally Posted by Craterus

Would Superman be able to be assassinated? If so, the mafia have a very quick answer to the problem.

Superman is a stupid idea anyway. :idea2: This game is good how it is.

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They would be able to kill him, and they wouldn't have a quick answer to the problem because THEY WOULDN'T KNOW WHO IT IS. :inquisitive:

I don't see anything wrong with the idea other than the constructive comment that Cowhead418 gave. Even that is easily rectifiable. :idea2:

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Originally Posted by Csar

Dutch Guy

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Csar, you're dead. You can't vote.

As for me, I shall vote for Dutch_Guy.

DemonArchangel

Hmm I'll have to say Dutch_guy

Everyone who voted me as the killer is making a big mistake, you'll notice that when I'm dead the killings won't stop...

And since one of the mafioso is dead that means I'm not one of them, but oh well, I guess people only learn by making mistakes...

:balloon2:

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And since one of the mafioso is dead

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How can you know that unless you are one of the mafioso? This reaffirms my vote.

Dangit, I knew that being named as innocent would be the kiss of death.

The last four dead have been the detective and whoever he named as innocent.

Sigh, oh well. And run over by a tank? Why do I always get run over? Geez, you lousy mafia.

Anyways, I somewhat suspect Tiberius. Check out post #229.

EDIT: Dutch Guy is also suspicious. Craterus a bit too. Not as much, though. Oh, and if anyone wants it I've got an excel spreadsheet with everyone's votes, who got killed, methods of death, etc.

Oh and for the 'superman' idea, you could make it so that if both mafiosa tried to kill one target, the superman couldn't save him. So announcing yourself as detective would be bad.

Crazed Rabbit

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Originally Posted by Ignoramus

How can you know that unless you are one of the mafioso? This reaffirms my vote.

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GHC said that one of them was dead, here it is :

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Originally Posted by GHC

Correct. I'm telling you now at least one of them is still alive.

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Post 265, if you don't believe me.

The part :"is still alive'' leads me to think one of the mafioso is dead...

:balloon2:

The wording just means that he won't reveal anything.

I vote DemonArchangel.

EDIT: CR: Trying to help the village is now suspicious activity? :inquisitive:

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Originally Posted by Tiberius

EDIT: CR: Trying to help the village is now suspicious activity? :inquisitive:

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Always has been. That's why I was executed. :inquisitive:

Kingdom of Peace and Love indeed. :laugh4:

DemonArchangel.

DemonArchangel.

Kills have been updated and made into usual form.

As per request of his killer, Crazed Rabbit's death has been changed into something a little cooler.

And voting will end in a little bit.

Ah, now that's not so bad.

Crazed Rabbit

Interesting.

This just shows that one of the mafioso at least is a regular Backroomer, knowing about SFTS's alcohol consumption rule, which is definitely from the Drunkards' Thread. There's also knowledge of the Babe Thread.

As much as I hate to do this...

It seems we have another tie vote. This time between Dutch_guy and DemonArchangel.

There will be a re-vote, so anyone still alive can vote again (providing it's for one of those two). All votes from this round are wiped clean.

The voting period will be relatively short so get to it!

DemonArchangel

My vote remains unchanged. DemonArchangel.

You know what you should do when there's a tie vote you should let the dead people vote.

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Originally Posted by Ignoramus

Csar, you're dead. You can't vote.

As for me, I shall vote for Dutch_Guy.

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Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I was trying to sneak it in there. Sadly it didn't work.:shame:

Dutch Guy.

Dutch_guy