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Re: Leffe: Vladimir's Beer Thread
Well if I'm feeling like it, it can be up to and perhaps more than 30. Though I usually only find out by recounting the money I have left the day after.
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I hate it when they try and sell attitude. Just make a joke or show me some giant horses jogging please.
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Strike For The South
...What does it actually taste like?
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Originally Posted by
Sasaki Kojiro
I hate it when they try and sell attitude. Just make a joke or show me some giant horses jogging please.
With beer I don't really mind, but when your cornflakes are called Xperience (was something ike that) with on the backside things like how X are you with weird trendy people with odd glasses being cool then I am kinda meh it are cornflakes. Now you ask why did you buy it, dunno.
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Has anyone tried Gulden Draak? And if so, should I buy a bottle from 1997 for $25? The description sounds great for game food.
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Originally Posted by
Vladimir
Has anyone tried
Gulden Draak? And if so, should I buy a bottle from 1997 for $25? The description sounds great for game food.
It has so many tiny bubbles it's like swallowing a sponge, I don't like it. And it has this odd sweet taste, for some odd reason it taste like death to me, I expect that smell to hang over the battle of the Somnes or something like that.
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Ahh, to savor the sweet taste of death! :skull:
:laugh4:
Thanks, I think I'll try the cheap bottle first. I read good but mixed reviews.
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Originally Posted by
Fragony
It has so many tiny bubbles it's like swallowing a sponge, I don't like it. And it has this odd sweet taste, for some odd reason it taste like death to me, I expect that smell to hang over the battle of the Somnes or something like that.
Blasphemy. You and you're sponges always. What doesn't tatsle like a sponge to you? First Duvel, now Gulden Draak.
About Gulden Draak it's a good Belgian style beer if you ask me. Not the best, but better than most. I think I recommended it in the past. Now I never tried a ten year old one, and while some beers (especially trappist) get better even when they're officially expired. If you buy trappist beer always leave a couple of bottles alone for a year or 5. And you've got even better beer. However 10 years is a bit long. Note it varies from beer to beer, some you should throw away after being expired, but you haven't lived untill you tried a 5 year old Westvleteren 8.
Ten years is a heck of a long time and my bottles of Gulden Draak (usually 75cl ones) never lasted that long. I'd buy a some normal ones, they're good.
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Originally Posted by
Reverend Joe
...What does it actually taste like?
From the description, I believe it tastes somewhat like napalm in the morning.
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Originally Posted by
Moros
Blasphemy. You and you're sponges always. What doesn't tatsle like a sponge to you? First Duvel, now Gulden Draak.
You can't handle the truth. WAY too many bubbles.
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Originally Posted by
Fragony
You can't handle the truth. WAY too many bubbles.
You just can't handle the superiority of Belgian beer over Dutch well eh...yellow water.
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Originally Posted by
Moros
You just can't handle the superiority of Belgian beer over Dutch well eh...yellow water.
Claiming dutch beer is better then belgium beer would make me look rather silly. Pils is great though, tie.
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Originally Posted by
Fragony
Claiming dutch beer is better then belgium beer would make me look rather silly. Pils is great though, tie.
Dutch Pils, good? yeah right. Belgian ones are better, though of course no other pils can match a Czech one.
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Originally Posted by
Moros
Dutch Pils, good? yeah right. Belgian ones are better
mwah. I like Jupiler from time to time, Hertog Jan and Brand are better though (imho). Tie.
Czech for the win indeed.
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I am redeemed, for I love Budweiser.
GOD ALMIGHTY, I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT!
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Reverend Joe
I am redeemed, for I love Budweiser.
GOD ALMIGHTY, I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT!
I know, reading through this thread just makes me sorry for europeans. At least they have scotch to be proud of.
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Joe, Sasaki- You guys gotta be kidding, right? I mean, sure, Bud's an improvement on Miller or Coors, but it ain't nothin' special, that's to be sure. Bud will be the pinnacle of beer the day that hell freezes over.
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Shinseikhaan
Joe, Sasaki- You guys gotta be kidding, right? I mean, sure, Bud's an improvement on Miller or Coors, but it ain't nothin' special, that's to be sure. Bud will be the pinnacle of beer the day that hell freezes over.
Budweiser IS the pinnacle of beer. Why do you think it's so popular? #1 beer in the world for reason. Gold medal winner how many times?
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Originally Posted by
Sasaki Kojiro
If you don't eat sweets for a couple months candy bars taste sickening.
I know what you mean... I never eat candy bars except to cover the taste of magic mushrooms (which is about twice a year.) Otherwise they're way too sweet and choclatey. Give me a cheeseburger any day instead.
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I like budweiser...snobby people love to talk about how much they hate budweiser (you could define snobbiness as making your taste in something part of your identity)...I love to diss snobby people...match made in heaven.
Thank you. :2thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by
Sasaki Kojiro
Budweiser IS the pinnacle of beer. Why do you think it's so popular? #1 beer in the world for reason. Gold medal winner how many times?
That would be Heineken (for some reason) :inquisitive:
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Originally Posted by
Sasaki Kojiro
Monsieur, having good taste is not the same as being snobby :snobby:
Did you at least ever try a Belgian beer a couple of times or are you too attached to your dishwater Budweiser (or should I say "too snobby"? ~;p) to try something different?
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Originally Posted by
Andres
Monsieur, having good taste is not the same as being snobby :snobby:
Did you at least ever try a Belgian beer a couple of times or are you too attached to your dishwater Budweiser (or should I say "too snobby"? ~;p) to try something different?
I dunno about Sasaki, but I have had Belgian beer MANY times. In fact, it used to be all I bought, Leffe being my favorite. I still agree with him that Budweiser is the best.
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dear sir, I feel offended!
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Originally Posted by
Sasaki Kojiro
If you drink a whole bunch of barrel aged double chocolate coffee oatmeal stout I'm sure you'd think bud didn't taste like much. What you like depends on what you've tasted and acquired a taste for and on genetic variation etc. For example, I hate nuts because I don't like the texture (I like peanut butter fine though). I like dill pickles but not bread and butter. Other people are the opposite. If you don't eat sweets for a couple months candy bars taste sickening. My brother eats horrible raw vegan food and finds strawberries too sweet to eat, etc.
I like budweiser...snobby people love to talk about how much they hate budweiser (you could define snobbiness as making your taste in something part of your identity)...I love to diss snobby people...match made in heaven.
I actually started off with beers like Budweiser, so it's not just a case of liking what I'm used to. However, being curious, I tried some other (English) beers that I found, that I hadn't heard of, and was pleasantly surprised by the different and IMHO more interesting taste. I eventually developed a preference for English ales over other beers, excepting some Czech beers I've found. Nowadays, whenever I go in a pub and see some unknown beers, I always ask for a sip, to try the different tastes, before buying at least a couple of pints of the pick. The bartenders don't mind, and are often quite enthusiastic about discussing the merits of their favourite beers.
And before you accuse me of snobbery, among those unusual beers I've tried, some were truly awful experiments, while some very well known ales are among my faves.
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excepting some Czech beers I've found
My man. We should enslave these slavs and have them make beer 24/7, mana of the gods.
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Originally Posted by
Pannonian
I actually started off with beers like Budweiser, so it's not just a case of liking what I'm used to. However, being curious, I tried some other (English) beers that I found, that I hadn't heard of, and was pleasantly surprised by the different and IMHO more interesting taste. I eventually developed a preference for English ales over other beers, excepting some Czech beers I've found. Nowadays, whenever I go in a pub and see some unknown beers, I always ask for a sip, to try the different tastes, before buying at least a couple of pints of the pick. The bartenders don't mind, and are often quite enthusiastic about discussing the merits of their favourite beers.
And before you accuse me of snobbery, among those unusual beers I've tried, some were truly awful experiments, while some very well known ales are among my faves.
Nah, you just like beer. I'm fairly certain I'd lose the taste for bud if I spent time on other beers. But I go for whiskey more often.
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Originally Posted by Andres
Did you at least ever try a Belgian beer a couple of times
Heineken is belgian right? It's ok, not great though.
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What you guys drink ain't the real Heineken, it's watered down for export, real Heineken is a good beer, not the best, but good (with blind tasting the flemish actually liked Heineken best to their horror)
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Originally Posted by
Sasaki Kojiro
Heineken is belgian right? It's ok, not great though.
Aha, so the answer is "no". Well, I know you generally prefer other alcoholic drinks over beer, but beer is something you need to learn to appreciate.
I myself, had to learn to appreciate whiskey. When I first tried it at my parents' (I believe it was an Irish one, Jameson), I really didn't like it. But now, I love it, especially during winter.
If you ever have the opportunity to buy Leffe, Westmalle, Duvel or whatever Belgian beer mentioned in this thread, buy a couple of them and drink it at ease, no more than one or two, eat some cheese with it.
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Originally Posted by
Fragony
What you guys drink ain't the real Heineken, it's watered down for export, real Heineken is a good beer, not the best, but good (with blind tasting the flemish actually liked Heineken best to their horror)
Lies! Manipulation! Bribery! Heineken conspiracy!
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edit, sup page 10
@Andres
TRUTH
Heineken is ok, not the best not the worst, a fine drink.
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It has arrived. I found a place close to work that sells this stuff on draft and in the bottle but now I finally have a case of my own. I've never paid $100 for beer before. I used to drink $50 at the bar (Tennessee prices), and $100 for scotch, but never for beer.
Fragony, I love ya, but I also love this beer. Please don't make me choose....
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If you go broke before you get drunk, you are a fool. Maybe it's just my southron blood, but honestly, cheap beer tastes better by the simple fact that it's cheaper.
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Originally Posted by
Vladimir
It has arrived. I found a place close to work that sells this stuff on draft and in the bottle but now I finally have a case of my own. I've never paid $100 for beer before. I used to drink $50 at the bar (Tennessee prices), and $100 for scotch, but never for beer.
Fragony, I love ya, but I also love this beer. Please don't make me choose....
You paid $100 for Gulden Draak!? That's just mad. While I'd agree it's more than decent beer, I've yet to find a beer that is worth $100. I think a large bottle of Gulden draak costs a mere 3-4€'s or something over here.
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Moros
You paid $100 for Gulden Draak!? That's just mad. While I'd agree it's more than decent beer, I've yet to find a beer that is worth $100. I think a large bottle of Gulden draak costs a mere 3-4€'s or something over here.
A case people, a case. That's less than 4 and a quarter per.
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Originally Posted by
Vladimir
A case people, a case. That's less than 4 and a quarter per.
While that's still alot for small bottles, it isn't insanely high priced anymore.
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It will still set you back a pretty penny. For example at http://www.rusticorestaurant.com/bar.htm you can get it on tap for about twice as much of you can buy a bottle from the late 90's for $27. I'm not sure how well it ages in a bottle but the standard stuff is pretty good.
If I could find a job in Belgium that pays just a little better than my current one I'd take it. And it's not just for the beer.
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Originally Posted by
Vladimir
It will still set you back a pretty penny. For example at
http://www.rusticorestaurant.com/bar.htm you can get it on tap for about twice as much of you can buy a bottle from the late 90's for $27. I'm not sure how well it ages in a bottle but the standard stuff is pretty good.
If I could find a job in Belgium that pays just a little better than my current one I'd take it. And it's not just for the beer.
Well if you ever come by Belgium let me know and we'll go beer tasting together!
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A lot of nice tips on this thread.
I love the Leffe and the Duvel, they are rich special occasion beers for me. The Leffe is a bit fruity to be sinking regularly. Is there really cardamon in it?
If you made me choose one beer, I'll take the Guinness on tap in Dublin (in particular the tap down the brewery) over anything anywhere. I am a stout fella with Irish heritage, after all.
I wish our Aussie beers kicked English arse like we do at everything else but sadly we have been corporatised and while there are some decent micros and a few good big brand beers (esp the clean Tasmanian beers) there are a host of fantastic English beers better than ours. Our stuff has to be drunk cold, or there's a problem. The poms can be done cold up to cellar temperature with no effect on the enjoyment.
I love the handful of German beers I have had too (that 16th century purity law is a wonderful thing), and to be frank there's nice products from all over. I recall fondly a brown scots beer that tasted like burnt wholemeal toast, but in a good way (yes I am a Laphroaig man too).
Best thing I had recently was a James Squire (Aussie micro) Golden Ale, nice and rich. I'm not drinking like I used too, but i like to spend the same amount so its smaller amounts of more expensive stuff. Still gets me shitfaced so I pass out on NYE, just the puke smells classier :sweatdrop:.
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Moros
What's cardamon?
Cardamom.
I don't know. It's possible as I detect a taste similar to cloves without the numbing effect. That's one reason why I love it so much. Fruity? :no:
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Originally Posted by
Vladimir
... Fruity? :no:
Yeah I'd say fruity. Definitely a spiced taste and a sweetness I'm not expecting from a beer.
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it, in fact its delicious, I just find German beer more...beerish.
Leffe tastes a bit Early Modern Europe/fat bloke in a Brueghel painting/chestnuts and butter in heated ale/FATW to me. Nice for a special occasion, but I wouldn't drink it every day.
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Cyclops
Yeah I'd say fruity. Definitely a spiced taste and a sweetness I'm not expecting from a beer.
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it, in fact its delicious, I just find German beer more...beerish.
Leffe tastes a bit Early Modern Europe/fat bloke in a Brueghel painting/chestnuts and butter in heated ale/FATW to me. Nice for a special occasion, but I wouldn't drink it every day.
I'm not faulting you either. Since it's an ale, not a beer, it is sweet instead of bitter. Germans turned ale into beer by adding hops. The hops add a bitter taste and act as a preservative. I can't stand bitter drinks; personal choice.
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Not sure if this is the right place, but I had a negative beer experience recently. I love New Belgium beers, not least their standard "Fat Tire". Bought a mix pack recently, which had among either styles their Organic Wheat Beer. I like some wheat beers so I tried it with an open mind. Even took all three in the variety pack I split with my father because he hates wheat beers.
It's the worst beer I've had in recent memory, which may no mean much since I tend to buy brands I like over trying new things. Maybe it's that I don't add lime (reccommended, but I can never put fruit in beer). Whatever the reason I strongly dislike this beer, which is too bad as I have no problems with the idea of an organic beer... It manages to both be unpleasant in taste and in another sense tasteless. For the price I could buy twice as much Budweiser, which would be just as bad but cheaper...
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Originally Posted by
Vladimir
I'm not faulting you either. Since it's an ale, not a beer, it is sweet instead of bitter. Germans turned ale into beer by adding hops. The hops add a bitter taste and act as a preservative. I can't stand bitter drinks; personal choice.
The tripple is rather sweetish, not really my thing, the dubbel is fantastic though.
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Originally Posted by
Zim
Not sure if this is the right place, but I had a negative beer experience recently. I love New Belgium beers, not least their standard "Fat Tire". Bought a mix pack recently, which had among either styles their Organic Wheat Beer. I like some wheat beers so I tried it with an open mind. Even took all three in the variety pack I split with my father because he hates wheat beers.
It's the worst beer I've had in recent memory, which may no mean much since I tend to buy brands I like over trying new things. Maybe it's that I don't add lime (reccommended, but I can never put fruit in beer). Whatever the reason I strongly dislike this beer, which is too bad as I have no problems with the idea of an organic beer... It manages to both be unpleasant in taste and in another sense tasteless. For the price I could buy twice as much Budweiser, which would be just as bad but cheaper...
Bad beer stories are welcome. I’ve thought of trying that brand but now I’m glad I didn’t.
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Re: Leffe: Vladimir's Beer Thread
Stick to the Kwak, Leffe and Chimay perhaps?
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Originally Posted by
Caravel
Stick to the Kwak, Leffe and Chimay perhaps?
:bow:
But then I would have never discovered my 10.5% Gulden Draak. :laugh4:
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Originally Posted by
Vladimir
But then I would have never discovered my 10.5% Gulden Draak. :laugh4:
Percent volume != quality. Not suggesting for one moment that you thought it was, but I thought it worth pointing out.
They have some awful stuff over here that is about 9 or 10 percent and it's cheap and nasty.
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Originally Posted by
Caravel
Percent volume != quality. Not suggesting for one moment that you thought it was, but I thought it worth pointing out.
They have some awful stuff over here that is about 9 or 10 percent and it's cheap and nasty.
Are you from the states? Becuase "malt liquor" made either for or in the states does not count as beer. Oh and everyone should try homebrewing. My dad have been at it since December and we've managed to turn out an American Brown that was okay for a brief couple of weeks and then turned nasty sweet (our first batch), a Belgian Strong which exploded but is decent, a passable Hefeweizen, a fairly good Saison, and most recently an excellent Dubbel that I personally find acceptable as a Chimay or Allagash substitute, and it costs only $35 bucks per five gallons!
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Originally Posted by
Uesugi Kenshin
Are you from the states?
No.
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Originally Posted by
Uesugi Kenshin
Becuase "malt liquor" made either for or in the states does not count as beer. Oh and everyone should try homebrewing. My dad have been at it since December and we've managed to turn out an American Brown that was okay for a brief couple of weeks and then turned nasty sweet (our first batch), a Belgian Strong which exploded but is decent, a passable Hefeweizen, a fairly good Saison, and most recently an excellent Dubbel that I personally find acceptable as a Chimay or Allagash substitute, and it costs only $35 bucks per five gallons!
My father used to make some pretty good wine and beer when I was a lad. In fact I recall my uncle falling into a stream after a beer or several. It was pretty potent stuff. I also remember the exploding bottles and huge mess etc. :2thumbsup: