Challenge: Ichigo
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Challenge: Ichigo
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So what's that make three or four?Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
Um... I wasn't playing in that, i can't judge you by your "new standard"...Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
How is that cheap? i just didn't want to get lynched by virtue of the fact that you asked me a question and then I didn't answer...Quote:
Originally Posted by Stig
Unvote:Andres the Cunning; Vote: Omanes
Reason: He is always making vague hints while staying in the background, and when he finally voted me, he never gave a reason...
The first day phase can take a week? Who are these players? :Zzzz:Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
Ok, tran...
I don't really care. I usually just vote randomly or do what the smilie tells me to, although you being kind of funny in the chat, very agressive. Hmm......
:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by discovery1
Impostors!
All the challanges are done, and Tran has been lynched, we just have to wait for Sasaki to get back now.
It's not over yet pever, it's not over yet.
:laugh4: This isnt Zombie Mafia!...Or is it....
It is, if I'm lynched I'll be back from the dead and terrorize all who dared to vote me...
Alright, in the interest of the game, I thought about my vote and really it was not thought out at all and I think that we probably should discuss our bandwagoning just a bit before we go and take out what could be a townie. As far as we know, Ichigo is the mafia because Ichigo = guilty. A little extra discussion doesn't hurt the game any. For now:
Unvote: Tran
Ichigo: 1 (GH)
Andres: 1 (BK)
BK: 5 (Tran, Redleg, Stig, Omanes, greaterkhaan)
CR: 1 (Andres)
Stig : 1 (CA)
TwilightBlade : 1 (pevergreen)
Xehh: 1 (Xdeathfire)
no lynch: 2 (HughTower, Roadkill)
Tran: 6 (Kommo, Crazed Rabbit, Orb, Ichigo, Caius, discovery1)
Challenge: BlackAxe cuz people say he's scum
Right, enough of these disco! Your reason for voting is very odd at best, you sound very very scummy...
Unvote, Vote: discovery1
Andres: 1 (BK)
ByzantineKnight: 4 (Redleg, Stig, Omanes, greaterkhaan)
CountArach: 1 (Andres)
discovery1: 1 (Tran)
Ichigo: 1 (GH)
Stig : 1 (CA)
Tran: 6 (Kommo, Crazed Rabbit, Orb, Ichigo, Caius, discovery1)
TwilightBlade : 1 (pevergreen)
Xehh: 1 (Xdeathfire)
No Lynch: 2 (HughTower, Roadkill)
Challenge: BlackAxe3001. I just wanna beat him up right now. Plus, if he's mafia, it'll give us a chance to incapacitate him.
I forgot this Challenge: discovery1 , can't wait to whack his scummy head
I accept.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
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Hello, I'm back. With the 7th vote, Tran was lynched. BlackAxe your unvote does not count.
The kung fu teacher whose day training you purchase is a non player character.
You pm me to buy items and to purchase training.
Only duel challenges issued before the lynching vote will count. In the future I'd appreciate it if a duel tally was collected as well.
Also, please don't spam.
Awww Sasaki, no need to delete everything.
Night pgase now?
Yes it is nightphase. Some posts from me in a bit.
Another question answered: normally I will pm you and inform you of updates to your kung fu score and amount of gold.
Also, new rule:
posting youtube links is a mod-killable offense ~D
Well then kill me cause I'm not stopping no ones making them click the links.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
pevergreen - at one school I heard of, one could bypass restrictions on google searching by using advanced search.
PM me and I'll send you a link for good proxy software.
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The inhabitants of the temple were thrown into an uproar by the deaths of two of their members. Accusations flew thick and fast. At first it was ByzantineKnight who had votes piled against him, but Liu Fujian quickly passed him up and reached the required majority. 7 townies took him and threw him off the edge of the cliff.
Tran: 7 (Kommo, Crazed Rabbit, Orb, Ichigo, Caius, BlackAxe, disco)
BK: 6 (Tran, Redleg, Stig, Omanes, greaterkhaan, GH)
CR: 1 (Andres)
Stig : 1 (CA)
Andres: 1 (BK)
TwilightBlade : 1 (pevergreen)
Xehh: 1 (Xdeathfire)
no lynch: 1 (HughTower)
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Sapi Vs Andres
The first duel is set to begin. The fighters ready themselves. Both are using Dragon style so no advantage will be gained there. Once the fight starts however, it is obvious that Sapi does not need one. He pummels Andres left and right, knocking him out with in ten seconds.
*****
Orb Vs Ichigo
These fighters are closer to each other's skill level, with a slight edge to Orb. However, Orb's Dragon style is the natural antithesis of Ichigo's White Crane style, and this is enough to allow Orb to soundly defeat Ichigo.
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Sigurd Vs discovery1
This fight is a reverse of the previous fight. It is evident that Sigurd is a much better fighter, but disco's praying mantis helps him vs Sigurds dragon. It is not enough however, and disco is defeated.
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Killed (2):
Dutch_guy
ChuggtheSquirrel
Lynched (1):
Tran
Living (34):
Ichigo
Warmaster Horus
pevergreen
Faust|
Xdeathfire
Kommodus
Greaterkhaan
ByzantineKnight
Crazed Rabbit
CountArach
Omanes
Stig
Warluster
Andres
Sigurd
Caius
Sapi
BlackAxe
Ignoramus
RoadKill
Redleg
Killfrenzy
Ultrawar
Orb
doc_bean
GH
TwilightBlade
discovery1
Pannonian
The_Stranger
Xehh
HughTower
Kagemusha
Beefy187
It is now night 2. I will be sending out pm's containing kung fu score +money information. Please send night 2 actions (players who lost duels may not).
challenges were:
sapi vs andres
pevergreen vs tb
andres vs The stranger
xdeathfire vs byzantine knight
orb vs ichigo
sigurd vs discovery1
GH vs Ichigo
Also, if you make a challenge and do not specify a style, your starting style will be used.
Well, then I want my Kung Fu score back. I expect no surprises :whip:
ok jesus christ that's a lot of pm's.
After this round, I will only be sending non-obvious stats. If you wish to confirm your stats you may pm me at any time.
I finally have time to make a bah post.
To whom it concerns, coughmafiacough
First off, chopping off a guy's head from behind is just cowardly, and if you didn't, you woulda gotten kicked into the middle of next week. (I like that expression :laugh4: )
Second off, I did NOT scar the fountain in any way, so I didn't need punishment. :inquisitive:
Third off, this game is cool and you knocked me off, so BAH!!!
Chugg
In support of my fellow monk ChuggtheSquirrel: GAH!!!
Liu Fujian a.k.a Tran
Bah and Gah are hardly the same thing :laugh4:
I propose that we use the kung-fu fights to our advantage, as we began to use the holmgang fights near the end of Sigurid's excellent mafia
What this means is the following:
- immediate stop on all fight orders without town permission
- attempt to identify the townie with the best kung-fu score. if we don't want to go public, go off the matches
- use of the kung-fu contests to block the actions of the three main suspects in order to see if the mafia kills drop
This is good, however if we fight Mafia and they defeat us they will have an increase in their score ... which means killing using Kung Fu is easier.
I think the mafia will also have limited poison and weapons so they might have to use Kung Fu to kill the townies. If they have a higher Kung Fu they will easely win.
Better to act than otherwise...
:yes:
Tis true, it would have worked in migard if we had more people in it, and started it earlier.
Exactly.
I'm happy to act as the fall guy/combatent for the town if other people want to keep their abilities secret (seeing as I've already fought)
Why should we trust you?
Why should you not trust me?
You know as well as I do that mafia is a game based on trust. We have no way to form networks - except for speaking to murdered players - but to trust that the person at the other end is a townie.
I am a townie.
You can believe me or not, depending on your level of trust in me/mafia history/mood at the time.
That's your choice.
But when I suggest that we, the members of the town, make use of a feature of this particular mafia game, a feature that we failed to make use of in time in Sigurd's mafia, you should listen, regardless of your personal views on my trustworthiness.
Because, believe it or not, I want us townies to win...
Good question. By fighting throughout the day, you gain experience and a higher Kung Fu score (if you win that is). Since the mafia has to perform kills at night, I take it they cannot train as well during the night. So the only way to keep killing + gaining Kung Fu scores is by fighting or paying for training... But maybe the mafia wants to spend his money on weapons and thus needs the duels to gain higher levels...Quote:
Originally Posted by HughTower
So, if we help sapi in becoming an über-warrior by allowing him to fight weaker opponents every day, we must be pretty damn sure he is with us and not against us.
:inquisitive:
@Sasaki: can a mafioso perform two actions during the night, i.e.: performing a kill + practise Kung Fu/get Kung Fu traning ?
It doesn't really matter how good a warrior I am - being poisoned will still result in my death regardless :grin2:
Oh, and pever can vouch for me.
No you convinced him of your innocence, that's different from vouching.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapi
Anyone can fake being townie as the townie PM is public
How is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by sapi
Training somebody doesn't mean you are innocent. So it must be something else.
Care to elaborate?
Your logic isn't the problem, it is as AndresQuote:
Originally Posted by sapi
theCunningso eloquently details, it's your role as the uber-warrior/fulcrum that I call into question - it's too important to be held by one person on faith alone. Maybe as a rotated role, however.......
Please don't put words into my mouth, or my mind, or whatever..... I base my game not on BLIND trust, as you are asking, but on EARNED trust.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapi
Why on earth would I trust pevergreen?
Understand me though, it's not that I find you suspicious particularly, it's just that you don't have my trust. The only people who do are Chugg & Dutch.
Highly suspicious, why do you ask such a framing question?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
BTW, no I don't think they can, it's only one action per night phase.
If Andres was mafia he would have asked it in PM I think.
Furthermore I think the mafia have high Kung Fu levels (as otherwise it will be hard for them), so I think (and only think) Andres is innocent.
I don't see what's wrong with my question. It's a very pertinent one and it points out the dangers of putting to much trust in another player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites the Idiot
I'll explain it:
What would be my mafia tactic in case I am mafia and I can only perform one night action:
Kung Fu masters: risky for the mafia to kill them with Kung Fu, since the highly skilled townie can capture them --> the mafia needs weapons and poison, it's the safest way to perform those kills = they need all the gold they can get.
However, high Kung Fu score is usefull as well, to prevent being incapacitated during the night and to kill off easy targets (=players with low Kung Fu scores) --> gold is needed to buy items, so they must look for cheap methods of getting better Kung Fu score 1) cheap "night methods" practice and getting trained by a player with high Kung Fu stats = night actions, not possible because they need to kill during the night; other cheap method = duel during day time + if it's an easy win, the mafia detects the "easy kill targets", i.e. those with low Kung Fu stats, they can be killed without spilling precious poison/weapons.
Probably, but they need to improve their Kung Fu skills, because the townies will keep practising and training, eventually getting high levels as well. That's why they need money to buy weapons and cheap methods to improve their skills.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stig
Unless they can kill and practice/train during the night. If not, the only choice they have is a duel or buying lessons from the Kung Fu master, but those are expensive and they need money for weapons and poison to have succesfull murder attempts on the high skilled townies.
Wasn't the one of the first kills with a sword? I never saw a sword in the store. It looks to me like the mafia have their own weapons that they didn't have to buy. If they have their own weapons, why would they spend money to buy from the store?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Good question.Quote:
Originally Posted by greaterkhaan
@ Sasaki, does the mafia gets weapons to start with? Is there a difference in the write-up of a kill performed with a weapon, a kill performed with poison and a kill performed with Kung Fu? Or are there no clues whatsoever in the write-ups?
Good point gk. Interesting to say the least...
Oh, I forgot to mention that I have a flamethrower for personal defense and Tran gave me command of his legions of Stormtroopers before he died, so good luck killing me you scummy mafia.
Gah
Well, it looks like the bandwagon I started on Tran has carried the day. Interesting.
Tran, the logic I used against you was essentially the same that I used to identify Andres in the first round of Mafia VI. That doesn't make me right, but it''s the best I could come up with in the first round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tran
To answer your questions:
1. A random vote isn't necessarily suspicious; as you point out, a lot of people do it in round 1, with nothing better to do. What made it suspicious to me was that you just sort of slipped it in there; other people had already cast a few random votes and so there was nothing to make yours stand out. Also, you voted for BK, which didn't look random to me, despite your claim - it looked "safe."
2. Don't belittle my intelligence as if I have no experience playing these games. I wasn't looking for someone who simply said little, as those exist in abundance. I was looking for someone who was saying just enough, but not too much. You fit that profile. If I was wrong, I'm sorry.
3. There's no need to get defensive and retaliatory. In the end it's still more likely that I was wrong than right - but not maliciously. Everyone has to use some kind of reasoning, and I did the best I could.
Even if you were innocent (a definite possibility), we learned some interesting things from this round of voting. I'll share more after the night phase ends.
Considering that one of the guys was killed with a sword, I think the answer isQuote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Yes,
Yes,
There are clues. Like 'he got his head chopped off with a sword'.
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Now that you're here: are you innocent?Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
But there's also the possibility you are mafia. As a detective in Ichigo's game, you were first on my "to investigate players" list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kommodus
So if there is a detective, I strongly advice him to investigate Kommodus first.
One night action only.Quote:
@Sasaki: can a mafioso perform two actions during the night, i.e.: performing a kill + practise Kung Fu/get Kung Fu traning ?
They can kill with whatever weapons they like. They may also purchase weapons and in so doing get an extra kill. The kill write up will indicate if the kill was performed with weapon/poison/kung fu.Quote:
@ Sasaki, does the mafia gets weapons to start with? Is there a difference in the write-up of a kill performed with a weapon, a kill performed with poison and a kill performed with Kung Fu? Or are there no clues whatsoever in the write-ups?
Oh what the hell!H.S., you should had tell me who was!Quote:
Liu Fujian a.k.a Tran
I'd be sure to make him answer that one, let's see if he values his rep. ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
A simple yes or no is good enough...
:balloon2:
I challenged becauseQuote:
Originally Posted by Caius Flaminius
I wanted to knock him out
I still don't trust him
eh... Andres... why the Challenge? and why ois there no narrative of the challenge... im confused... i dont get this game anymore...
what can u do again in a nightphase?
You havent fully convinced me sapi, i just dont have anyone else i trust yet.
What if one of the Mafia has the highest Kung Fu value? this seems quite plausible (they know who their number are, we don't).Quote:
Originally Posted by sapi
I'm happy with this idea, but first we need to check why everyone issued challenges.
Mine was largely for the novelty of the new concept and flexing my starting Kung Fu score.
It seems to me that someone needs to organize the townie's into protection groups to help protect others within the game. This will require a building of trust between the different players of the game. This worked well in Capo - but it is also very easy for a mafia player to inflirate and cause a failed protection.
So for now - I have limited trust on any one player concerning thier role. I think that forming a collective nature on the challenges is also good, however the individual directing that type of action will have to be protected at night or the mafia will most likely target that individual or individuals.
Trust is the key to winning the game.
'sapi vs andres
pevergreen vs tb
andres vs The stranger
xdeathfire vs byzantine knight
orb vs ichigo
sigurd vs discovery1
GH vs Ichigo'
Left are the challengers, I assume, right the challenged.
Sapi, Pever, Sigurd, Andres and xdeathfire to explain
TB was annoying in RL, i challanged him :grin2:
Just to see if i could beat him in a fight.
Extremely scummy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
You too. You start telling me to act serious when most of your posts are joking. Double standard?Quote:
Originally Posted by pever
Byzantine Knight was getting alot of votes so I challenged him to try to make sure he doesn't do anything in case he does not get lynched
:O I'm Mafia
Well Caius... you were wrong...
Mafia does say it like that
in the meanwhile... I'm bored...
HmmmmQuote:
Originally Posted by The Stranger
I refuse to answer to anything Ichigo says from now on, if it has Youtube tags on it.
You=:bigcry:Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
AgreedQuote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
no, im just not in the greatest mood. Youtube tags are not needed.
You=:stupido2:
What do the red letters hurt your eyes pever?Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
No, they are blue.
damn, good job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
Alright, Ichigo, you are officially the King of all Spam, Lord Spamalot. You rule the land of Spamenia, over a people called the Spamese. Happy? Now, please, back to topic!:focus:
Nicely summed greaterkhaan.
I challenged for two reasons:Quote:
Originally Posted by Orb
1) Because I always play randomly in the first round
2) To increase my kung-fu score
Yes, that can be seen as irresponsible, but in the first round we've got nothing to go on.
From now on, however, I am and will be a strong advocate of organised kung-fu matches.
I'm happy for these to work on a rotation basis, with regards to who does teh fighting, but I offered myself because a) I've already fought and thus fighting again wouldn't give the mafia any more knowledge about player weaknesses and b) I believe i've got the highest kung-fu score of the townies and c) I'm the only person (apart from Tran) who I know to be innnocent
Who fights doesn't really matter, as long as they can win said fight...
Chen shall fight!