Star Wars: Fall of the Order [Concluded]

Well, it is pretty obvious I am the better choice to stay alive, I already said, it wasn't my Sith lord who revived me, and said about another faction pre-this incident. Whoever revived me, did it to distract the town away from themselves.

Even if you don't believe me that I want to take revenge on whoever first nighted me, there are other things to consider:

The Rule of Two - There is currently only me and my Master. So if you don't believe what I am saying about another faction, you deprive my Master of recruiting some one else and you get to block a known sith, severely limiting my faction. (or don't block me, and allow me to hunt down the Sith who killed me in the first place)

It wasn't my Master who revived me - If it wasn't him, who else would revive a Sith? I place my bets that it wasn't a Jedi who revived me, so I leave that up to you to find out, As for the timing of the incident, my money is on Ignoramus.

So many convincing arguments!

Vote:Beskar

I'll bite pevers vote

Unvote, Vote: Sigurd

On the subject of Beskar's resurrection, I'm inclined to think that it would be incredibly silly for the sith lord to resurrect his padawan so to speak only for him to get lynched instantaneously. However if it was indeed a sith resurrection, it would then make sense that Beskar would have to worm his way out for a while so as to gain powers back.

On the other hand, others have expressed a desire to conduct a test/experiment or something by way of role block.

In conjunction with what pever has just said, I'm of the opinion that considering pever's knowledge of at least some things, hence, Sigurd should be the day's lynch.

Vote: Sigurd

Vote : Sasaki

Vote: Sigurd - I would like to see a duel between Sigurd and Ignoramus
Currrent tally:

Beskar: (8) Jarema, Ignoramus, Zack, Frozen in ice, Autolycus, johnhughthom, Chaotix, AntiKingWarmanCake88

Ignoramus: (6) Sprig, robbiecon, choxorn, Seon, Sasaki Kojiro, Captain Blackadder

Sigurd (4) : Pevergreen, Beefy187, Death is Yonder, Yaropolk

Originally Posted by pevergreen:
Vote: Sigurd

I came across some new information.

At this point, Sigurd is the best lynch for today.

Is there some reason you cannot tell us what this information is?

Originally Posted by pevergreen:
Vote: Sigurd

I came across some new information.

At this point, Sigurd is the best lynch for today.

New information? More vague Rebel Jeb style "he may or may not be Sith, but let's charge headlong into it anyway" stuff?

Originally Posted by TinCow:
Is there some reason you cannot tell us what this information is?

Possibly, it may violate game rules and ethic rules.

But theres currently some bad info going around. Two people giving me info about sigurd, it conflicts.

@Psycho: R Jeb read his results wrong. He's ok, i scanned him myself.

I shall follow Master pever's guidance. Unvote, Vote:Sigurd

Originally Posted by Nightbringer:
Finally, where are you diana abnoba, speak up some, you seem to have been as wordless as darth maul recently.

I'd like to second that, her behaviour seems very odd for her so far. Only voting/bandwagoning and then this strange post at the beginning of this day phase.

Originally Posted by Beskar:
Well, it is pretty obvious I am the better choice to stay alive, I already said, it wasn't my Sith lord who revived me, and said about another faction pre-this incident. Whoever revived me, did it to distract the town away from themselves.

True, but it doesn't mean we should let someone with a night kill ability we know of leave running around, potentially unconstrained.

Originally Posted by Beskar:
The Rule of Two - There is currently only me and my Master. So if you don't believe what I am saying about another faction, you deprive my Master of recruiting some one else and you get to block a known sith, severely limiting my faction. (or don't block me, and allow me to hunt down the Sith who killed me in the first place)

So, you are saying that your Master hasn't recruited anyone after your death? I find that highly unlikely. Or was he forced to abandon his new apprentice?
And it seems like we have no one to block you and how could letting you shoot into the dark with your kill ability be in any way beneficial for the town?

Originally Posted by Beskar:
It wasn't my Master who revived me - If it wasn't him, who else would revive a Sith? I place my bets that it wasn't a Jedi who revived me, so I leave that up to you to find out, As for the timing of the incident, my money is on Ignoramus.

As I said, I also find it highly likely that you were revived to act as a distraction from another suspect, but as expressed above, I remain unconvinced how keeping you alive would benefit the town.
That's why and because I'd like pever to elaborate about the Sigurd case, I'll Vote: Beskar.

Finally, why do you vote Sasaki, Andres?

Originally Posted by pevergreen:
Possibly, it may violate game rules and ethic rules.

Please consult with the Gameroom Mods about this ASAP. Specifically, talk to GH, since he's not playing in this game.

Originally Posted by Psychonaut:
New information? More vague Rebel Jeb style "he may or may not be Sith, but let's charge headlong into it anyway" stuff?

I doubt that he would want to jeopardise the person who gave the info and since he is a confirmed innocent it is good to listen to him, so it is best to follow him. unvote vote: Sigurd

Originally Posted by Joooray:
Finally, why do you vote Sasaki, Andres?

Because I'm under the impression that he doesn't want to see Beskar lynched and I'd like to know why.

I don't see a reason to keep him alive. Since the lynch of today is probably going to be Sigurd or Ignoramus, I won't waste my time voting Beskar. He's confirmed scum that was brought back to live and he pretends like he doesn't know who is scum partners were. Apparently, that kind of nonsense is enough for town to not lynch him. That's fine by me; Beskar is exposed scum, so getting rid of him is just a formality of lynching him next round. I'm interested to know why Sasaki doesn't want to lynch a scumbag who is brought back to live and who refuses to reveal us who is scumpartners are.

Originally Posted by classical_hero:
I doubt that he would want to jeopardise the person who gave the info and since he is a confirmed innocent it is good to listen to him, so it is best to follow him. unvote vote: Sigurd

Follow that advice blindly.

I'm checking it, and stuff.

@TC: Fiiiine, talking to khaan on steam.

Originally Posted by pevergreen:
Two people giving me info about sigurd, it conflicts.

Then it's probably best to keep it to yourself and make a gut decision. If your gut says it's worth a shot, then it's worth a shot.

vote: Sigurd

That revive was rather lame, either we lynch a known Sith over and over again or ignore him and try to find the Reviver. Have to go with the latter...

Vote: Ignoramus

Originally Posted by pevergreen:
Follow that advice blindly.

I'm checking it, and stuff.

@TC: Fiiiine, talking to khaan on steam.

Well at the moment it is the best we've got to go on. Things can change so I am keeping my eye out for that.

Originally Posted by Andres:
Because I'm under the impression that he doesn't want to see Beskar lynched and I'd like to know why.

I don't see a reason to keep him alive. Since the lynch of today is probably going to be Sigurd or Ignoramus, I won't waste my time voting Beskar. He's confirmed scum that was brought back to live and he pretends like he doesn't know who is scum partners were. Apparently, that kind of nonsense is enough for town to not lynch him. That's fine by me; Beskar is exposed scum, so getting rid of him is just a formality of lynching him next round. I'm interested to know why Sasaki doesn't want to lynch a scumbag who is brought back to live and who refuses to reveal us who is scumpartners are.

Okay, I'd like to know more about that too.
What do you think about Beskar's claim of there being two different Sith factions though? I.e. What do think about the appearance of the purple lightsaber in the write-up?

BTW: What's the Star Wars lore on purple lightsabers? Are they normally associated with a certain group of people?

Originally Posted by Psychonaut:
Then it's probably best to keep it to yourself and make a gut decision. If your gut says it's worth a shot, then it's worth a shot.

vote: Sigurd

The amount of bodies we have and the fact that Sigurd is one of the many (including yourself) who has revealed nothing to me makes him useless in my eyes. (sorry sigurd.)

Originally Posted by Joooray:
What do you think about Beskar's claim of there being two different Sith factions though? I.e. What do think about the appearance of the purple lightsaber in the write-up?

BTW: What's the Star Wars lore on purple lightsabers? Are they normally associated with a certain group of people?

Pizza said we shouldn't pay attention to the colour of the lightsabers.

Just like we shouldn't listen too much to what a resurrected Sith like Beskar tells us...

Originally Posted by Psychonaut:
Don't put words in my mouth. I'm pointing out the facts of the situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSzNYstaAh0

Ig has been scummy continuously. Beskar is scum. dcmort has also been epically scummy. They all need to be lynched, the order it occurs in is trivial.

That's cleared things up!

Cool video.

But now back to business, so day 2, I was one of many who congratulated Sasaki for killing Beskar who had been Sith.

Now why on Earth would a confirmed Sith be brought back to life, to surely be a Sith-lamb to the slaughter?

I'm going to keep my vote on Ignoramus, and we'll KFCoS: Beskar (Kentucky Fried Chicken of Suspicion).

Originally Posted by Andres:
Pizza said we shouldn't pay attention to the colour of the lightsabers.

Just like we shouldn't listen too much to what a resurrected Sith like Beskar tells us...

True, forgot about that, but this could also mean there is another anti-town faction that wields purple lightsabers. Or do you disagree?
While I do agree that Beskar's informations should be handled with extreme caution, I'd still like to take the opportunity to think about the design of the game.

Edit:

Originally Posted by robbiecon:
But now back to business, so day 2, I was one of many who congratulated Sasaki for killing Beskar who had been Sith.

Because you brought that up again, I have to ask, am I the only one that believes Sasaki was just messing around when he claimed he killed Beskar? I at least read the thread like that, especially after he was revealed to just have been an initiate.

Originally Posted by pevergreen:
Possibly, it may violate game rules and ethic rules.

But theres currently some bad info going around. Two people giving me info about sigurd, it conflicts.

@Psycho: R Jeb read his results wrong. He's ok, i scanned him myself.

He read his results wrong, which led to an innocent being lynched. That's pretty poor play.

And since when did you become the most trusted player (admittedly I haven't been here throughout, but nonetheless this sudden tidal wave of knowledge towards you somewhat confuses me)

I also must agree with Joooray, it seems unlikely an initiate could have vig killed a Sith.

Originally Posted by robbiecon:
He read his results wrong, which led to an innocent being lynched. That's pretty poor play.

And since when did you become the most trusted player (admittedly I haven't been here throughout, but nonetheless this sudden tidal wave of knowledge towards you somewhat confuses me)

There are different levels of force powers, he had a lower level result that he mis interpreted. Thats not his fault...

I'm the most trusted player because i'm an unkillable voting confirmed pro-town force ghost. Info is better collaborated (i've got a bunch of people we can currently count as 'not sith')

Vote: Ignoramus

@ Nightbringer and Joooray and frankly everyone else

Yes I know, I haven't been very active in this game so far, so sorry to all and esp. Pizza. He puts so much into his games, and that isn't fair to him, and to you all for that matter. RL is just kicking my butt lately, with my new job, working day shift and night shift, OT...don't know if I'm coming or going some of the time. It should even out in about a week or so, and I will hopefully be able to keep up with this game, cause I'm sorta lost, and behind right now.

Well, I need to vote now, before I miss another vote phase, if I can't get back on here before the phase is over, so; Vote: Ignoramus for now, unless it turns out we don't have any roleblockers to block Beskar.

Originally Posted by dcmort93:
Wow... just Wow. You say that I'm scum for believing that Zack was a bit too jumpy on his vote for beskar, but the you go right out and vote for Zack himself. Hypocrisy much?

No that's not hypocrisy. I reacted on the way your post read, not only where your vote ended up.

Originally Posted by pevergreen:
Possibly, it may violate game rules and ethic rules.

But theres currently some bad info going around. Two people giving me info about sigurd, it conflicts.

@Psycho: R Jeb read his results wrong. He's ok, i scanned him myself.

I'm trusting you on this but I want to know more. unvote; vote: Sigurd

Originally Posted by Andres:
Because I'm under the impression that he doesn't want to see Beskar lynched and I'd like to know why.

I don't see a reason to keep him alive. Since the lynch of today is probably going to be Sigurd or Ignoramus, I won't waste my time voting Beskar. He's confirmed scum that was brought back to live and he pretends like he doesn't know who is scum partners were. Apparently, that kind of nonsense is enough for town to not lynch him. That's fine by me; Beskar is exposed scum, so getting rid of him is just a formality of lynching him next round. I'm interested to know why Sasaki doesn't want to lynch a scumbag who is brought back to live and who refuses to reveal us who is scumpartners are.

That's actually a good point... And since Sasaki replaced someone else, he's not cleared any more :stare:
On a related note, God Emperor is far too silent for my taste. You here?

Originally Posted by Khazaar:
That revive was rather lame, either we lynch a known Sith over and over again or ignore him and try to find the Reviver. Have to go with the latter...

Vote: Ignoramus

Since when do we know the revivals are unlimited? Puh-lease tell me where that info comes from.

Originally Posted by Joooray:
True, forgot about that, but this could also mean there is another anti-town faction that wields purple lightsabers. Or do you disagree?
While I do agree that Beskar's informations should be handled with extreme caution, I'd still like to take the opportunity to think about the design of the game.

Edit:


Because you brought that up again, I have to ask, am I the only one that believes Sasaki was just messing around when he claimed he killed Beskar? I at least read the thread like that, especially after he was revealed to just have been an initiate.

That was my impression as well.

Originally Posted by Andres:
I'm interested to know why Sasaki doesn't want to lynch a scumbag who is brought back to live and who refuses to reveal us who is scumpartners are.

I'm not positive but I would be very surprised if atpg made a way a mafia could be turned townie and didn't have a rule that forbids him from revealing his former compatriots. He might be refusing because he has to.

If you wanna know more, I gotta know more about you.