Mafia IX: Triumph of the Mafia [Concluded]

I think people don't like that he really knows how to "sneak by" so to speak....but Sasaki never complains, he enjoys it:clown:

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

I have to recheck my totals, but I'm pretty sure Sasaki garnered at least a vote in every single round. I think had it come down to it, he would have been lynched in either the penultimate or final round just to sheer town paranoia.

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Haha, yes I did. 13 votes in total, within striking distance of a lynch twice.

Kage would have voted me in endgame.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I honestly wonder at this point if some people have just gotten an image of Sasaki in their mind where they go "I don't care what happens, he's gotta be lynched before the game is over".

I feel a bit of that at times. Is Sasaki just some person that people cannot bear to lose to?

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It was the same thing with Kage in Mafia VIII. All the dead were screaming for him to be strung up simply because he had been suspicious forever and they couldn't bear the thought of losing when he had been lynchbait for so long. Luckily for the town, cooler heads prevailed.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I honestly wonder at this point if some people have just gotten an image of Sasaki in their mind where they go "I don't care what happens, he's gotta be lynched before the game is over".

I feel a bit of that at times. Is Sasaki just some person that people cannot bear to lose to?

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To some degree I think that way. Unless you or Sasaki are cleared innocent, you both have to be watched closely. In the endgame, were I townie, I would've wanted you both dead.

And that's not because I couldn't bear to lose to either of you. Really, it's more a sign of how dangerous I believe the two of you are as mafia. Neither of you have any real, noticeable scumtells. I'd actually put 'khaan in that same category with you.

If you have a suspect you want dead, declare them to be innocent and stop voting for them. Never even mention them again.

If that doesn't work after 3 or 4 rounds, then lynch him.

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Originally Posted by Chaotix

I'd actually put 'khaan in that same category with you.

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I like it when Khaan is mafia. He is very entertaining. I'm actually disappointed whenever I find out he's townie, like in Capo III.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I honestly wonder at this point if some people have just gotten an image of Sasaki in their mind where they go "I don't care what happens, he's gotta be lynched before the game is over".

I feel a bit of that at times. Is Sasaki just some person that people cannot bear to lose to?

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Well, finding mafia is basically a pattern matching task. Mafia = square hole, lurking = square peg kind of thing. Certain behaviors match up with our idea of what mafia do, and that's what we find suspicious. "Being Sasaki" is one of those behaviors.

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Originally Posted by White_eyes:D

I think people don't like that he really knows how to "sneak by" so to speak....but Sasaki never complains, he enjoys it:clown:

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Being suspected is half the fun :beam:

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

It was the same thing with Kage in Mafia VIII. All the dead were screaming for him to be strung up simply because he had been suspicious forever and they couldn't bear the thought of losing when he had been lynchbait for so long. Luckily for the town, cooler heads prevailed.

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Yeah, that's a tough one to get past as town. That comes up a lot in endgame, "well, I'd rather lose to...".

No no no, Sasaki obviously uses his Japanese Daiymo to scare us.


Sasaki with Avatar of an Imam = Fail

Good choice of avatar means a lot, I think this one allows us to take you seriously whilst we get to see your playful white teeth.



I did not just say that...

In the previous version I had, you could actually see the spear I'm stabbing you with. Hmm, maybe this one is better.

Woohoo!!! I wasn't WoG'd! Take THAT Mafia scum :smile:

:beam:

Yey! We win. Cheers GH, very enjoyable.

Now, shall we all join together in kowtow to the Grand Bandwagon? ~D

Naturally, I shall defer taking credit for this victory to his Grand Bandwagonness.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Sorry, Methos and Sasaki! had to give it a shot. I'm just glad I abandoned that whole premise and listened to Sasaki.

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No problem. I wasn't paying very close attention to this game and posted just enough not to be WoG'ed.

Thanks for posting the PM's chaotix, as they helped me a lot. I'm still used to playing the way CFC does. The primary difference there is once your dead, you can't discuss the game anymore, hence the reason good players are often taken out early at CFC. Since .org allows players to continue talking, its entirely different and I can understand why you don't want to kill them.

Again, thanks for the PMs. It was a definite help for me.

Excellent game GH. Sorry I wasn't more active in it.

Bah. Killed because of my first successful defence from a lynch. And what a bad defence it was. I should have been lynched tbh.

I seem to be out of it. I was playing mafia, but I didn't have thoughts of who was innocent or guilty at all...somethings wrong with me. Maybe not playing (because of hosting) for a bit will fix me.

Nudge nudge, sign up.
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Great writeups GH. :yes:

Unlucky Chaotix, and you did better than I have in that situation Subo.
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Originally Posted by Chaotix

I thought of the cheese grater and rolling pin as more "pizza" tools. Particularly with the cheese grater I had an image in my mind of the target's face being graphically grated off. The rolling pin kill was pretty much exactly what I expected, though.

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We ended up stretching the the idea of a pizza mafia to the very limits. I honestly had no idea by the fondue kill how I could kill someone with anything pizza-related that we hadn't used.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Wow...I had literally no idea any attempt was being made at framing Renata :dizzy2:

The pizza thing could have worked very well though, especially if you'd conspicuously stopped it once we got to endgame. Maybe even could have provoked a self vote :p

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We were trying to be subtle about it. Too subtle, apparently.

I figured that we had to go all out on the Pizza thing, as the demands for a lynch would become irresistible.

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Originally Posted by Secura

How come you two felt that I would never be lynched? I guess I'm jumping the gun a little but I was under the impression that until I died, I was very much in the town's list of suspects, or Sasaki's in the very least (never a good list to be in!). I think I would have been lynched sooner or later. :3

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It was very clear you were innocent. Dunno how, but it just was.

So you had to go :beam:

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Originally Posted by White_eyes:D

How much of the write-ups did GH do? because I don't think Subo or Chaotix could frame players that WELL:stare:

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The pizza paddle was admittedly a spur of the moment thing, and I thought that GH would use it like an axe.

But it worked well :beam:

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

Bah. Killed because of my first successful defence from a lynch. And what a bad defence it was. I should have been lynched tbh.

I seem to be out of it. I was playing mafia, but I didn't have thoughts of who was innocent or guilty at all...somethings wrong with me. Maybe not playing (because of hosting) for a bit will fix me.

Nudge nudge, sign up.
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Great writeups GH. :yes:

Unlucky Chaotix, and you did better than I have in that situation Subo.
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It was actually such a good defence that you had to die. No sane townie would have cast a single vote on you, so it was up to us to dispatch you.

And thanks. With regards to the first accusations made at me, I was perfectly aware of what was going on. I reckoned that I had to pooh-pooh the accusations as quickly as possible, and I quickly turned the conversation into one of mafia theory to make it look like I was a good little townie. By the time the second one rolled along, I came on my dad's iphone to find that twenty posts had popped up detailing my guilt, so I panicked and lost my "COLD"-ness. So, I died :shrug:

Although I think that being called "COLD" is probably the greatest compliment I've ever seen in a mafia game, so thanks Renata :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Haha, yes I did. 13 votes in total, within striking distance of a lynch twice.

Kage would have voted me in endgame.

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I think i would have. :embarassed:It would seem that lately for some strange reason you get so much of my attention that i become too focused on monitoring your actions. Clearly i need to start paying less attention to you my friend. Nevertheless i think it was at start of atleast three rounds that you said i was among the best lynches?

I now know why Subotan wanted me lynched so much. :tongue:

I may be the only one who did think that Secura/Beskar might be an attempt to frame me. Glad I wasn't stupid enough to bring it up. :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I honestly wonder at this point if some people have just gotten an image of Sasaki in their mind where they go "I don't care what happens, he's gotta be lynched before the game is over".

I feel a bit of that at times. Is Sasaki just some person that people cannot bear to lose to?

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I have no problem with losing to someone who's better at the game than I am. I would never have voted Sasaki if I didn't think I had positive evidence of his scumminess (whoops), something beyond just paranoia. Feel free to use this to manipulate me mercilessly in the future. :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by Subotan

Although I think that being called "COLD" is probably the greatest compliment I've ever seen in a mafia game, so thanks Renata :laugh4:

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You're quite welcome! And well deserved, also.

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Originally Posted by Renata

I may be the only one who did think that Secura/Beskar might be an attempt to frame me.

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How so?

I don't see how it was an attempt to frame you in particular; when Beskie and I were reeling off names of those who might kill us both in the same night, you weren't in it. :3

I had done a sort of throwaway "I think Sasaki's cases on both Secura and Beskar are pretty good" (something like that) comment not long before the end of the day. Pow, you both wind up dead (hence innocent). It seemed a transparently obvious frame, but nobody ever brought it up, so I forgot about it.

I see that my tactic to just shut up has worked perfectly. Otherwise, I would have urged the town to vote Renata and some other poor innocent souls.

So the town won thanks to my infallible tactic of silence and getting myself killed early in the game, making me the obvious town MVP of Mafia IX :smug:

That'll teach you mafiosi to kill me N1 :brood: If you ever want to win a vanilla mafia, you keep me alive, so that my nonsensical ramblings and absurd analysis can distract the town and guide them to lynching innocent townies.

Thnx for hosting GH, as usual, your write-ups were highly entertaining :2thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Secura

How so?

I don't see how it was an attempt to frame you in particular; when Beskie and I were reeling off names of those who might kill us both in the same night, you weren't in it. :3

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But i bet i was.~;) Not that i would do something like that as mafia.

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Originally Posted by Renata

I had done a sort of throwaway "I think Sasaki's cases on both Secura and Beskar are pretty good" (something like that) comment not long before the end of the day. Pow, you both wind up dead (hence innocent).

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Ahhhh yes, I recall that post, principally because you were one of the few people to say you agreed with his accusation against me and you're one of those players it's not good to get on the bad side of... alas, I was town. :P

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Originally Posted by Kagemusha

But i bet i was.~;) Not that i would do something like that as mafia.

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You were one of the names that popped up, yes, but you were never our main suspect; I think I wrote you off as such because it would have been a very transparant thing for you to do as mafia considering Shadow Fort still hasn't finished and the manner in which you were lynched was probably a decisive factor in that game, as early as it was. I just didn't think you'd make such a schoolboy error.

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Originally Posted by Andres

I see that my tactic to just shut up has worked perfectly. Otherwise, I would have urged the town to vote Renata and some other poor innocent souls.

So the town won thanks to my infallible tactic of silence and getting myself killed early in the game, making me the obvious town MVP of Mafia IX :smug:

That'll teach you mafiosi to kill me N1 :brood: If you ever want to win a vanilla mafia, you keep me alive, so that my nonsensical ramblings and absurd analysis can distract the town and guide them to lynching innocent townies.

Thnx for hosting GH, as usual, your write-ups were highly entertaining :2thumbsup:

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Personally, I think your avatar stared them down with those cold, evil eyes, until they were forced to make a mistake.

Clearly you deserve the MVA award.

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Originally Posted by Kagemusha

I think i would have. :embarassed:It would seem that lately for some strange reason you get so much of my attention that i become too focused on monitoring your actions. Clearly i need to start paying less attention to you my friend. Nevertheless i think it was at start of atleast three rounds that you said i was among the best lynches?

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Yeah, I started off at least two rounds thinking you were guilty. I decided you were innocent before too long though :beam:

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Yeah, I started off at least two rounds thinking you were guilty. I decided you were innocent before too long though :beam:

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And moved on to Woad :tongue:

Wait, isn't this the second time that "Bess" has cropped up?

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Andres, meanwhile, was trying to break away from the grip of the man who had snatched him away from his group. The rain in this case was a double-edged sword; he was able to break free, but always slipped and fell when he tried to run away.

"Curse this weather!" he cried aloud. It seemed like the wind would take this one as well, but his kidnapper seemed to hear it. Andres could see an unearthly glow in this man's eyes, his yellow, remaining teeth grinning eerily.

A flash of lightning illuminated even more features about this man, Andres noticed. Most striking out of all of them was a blunderbuss, pointed directly at him. The sheer absurdity and shock of it all overwhelmed Andres, who began to cackle.

"What? You really expect that thing to work?" Andres burst out between bouts of hysterical laughter.

The figure said nothing, only drawing closer.

"Be... be ye kiddin' me?" he said, the laughter a bit more nervous this time.

The figure said nothing.

"Come on!" he finally shouted, ready to finally crack from all the pressure he had been under the past few days. "The Almighty Himself be takin' a shower right now in this! No way that thing can stand up and still work!"

Finally, the figure spoke. "Bess?" he said gruffly. "Bess don't care 'bout gettin' wet." He then pulled the trigger, and Bess's mouth erupted in a brief flash of fire.

The last thing Andres noticed before he died, his blood being quickly washed away by the rain, was how much Bess's nozzle, smoking afterwards, reminded him of a woman enjoying some tobacco after finishing the physical act of love.

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IIRC, that was KukriKhan's name for his blunderbuss, unfortunately. Still interesting though. :yes: