Eh, England and portugal dont like how I could end up with a good chunk of france and the income that goes with it so they're helping france to keep me at a manageable strength.
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Eh, England and portugal dont like how I could end up with a good chunk of france and the income that goes with it so they're helping france to keep me at a manageable strength.
What if England and Netherlands split North France, you and Portugal split SW France, and Pizza and Saxony split SE France? Give or take a few hexes, that's pretty even.
Except that takes out, ya know, FRANCE. Part of the entire point of my defection is to keep France as a world power in Europe. If I wanted to just chop France up into spheres of interest I would have stuck with the Swiss and Spanish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
You heathens sure are funny :wink:
Fine then, leave Saxony out of the deal because they aren't doing anything except having children with their ugly women. I originally intended to put them in but then I remembered Centurion.
balance of power is key. which is why im leaving saxony at historical strength.
:laugh4:
better than not having children with ugly men like you.Quote:
Fine then, leave Saxony out of the deal because they aren't doing anything except having children with their ugly women. I originally intended to put them in but then I remembered Centurion.
OK, let me put it this way. No one is losing any land in this war, except for those three hexes France Ceded to me for my help. France gets to keep its country, Spain gets to keep his country, Switzerland gets to keep his country. Everything goes back to the status quo.
That is the peace treaty I am pushing for. :yes:
The point is not to divide France into a tiny nation, territorial acquisition is not important. This is a game of politics my dear Heathen, and the Status Quo is god. I don't see this game being much fun if we simply all invade each other and form huge blobs of nations. Having a bunch of smaller nations makes thing far more interesting :yes:
...anyway...
Just give France Saxony's share. It'll work out fine. I'll even give him Corsica (if he can get me some cool units first)
Well then whats the point in fighting at all if we're not allowed to actually get anything?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cultured Drizzt fan
Defending your land?
Since that doesn't really apply, I guess CDF should change his name to "The United States of England" and rename his forces to "Police Force 1" and "Anti Pirating Navy 3"
You still can, I will just be here to foil you at every step :wink: Unless you are allied to me I really have everything to gain by making sure you attempts at territorial acquisition fail. Wars can go on, but when they involve great powers such as yourself then it is natural to assume the other powers of the world would be against you gaining any more land.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
I can get why you don't want a big faction to get bigger, but why do you want France to be alive, even if it's in a vegative state?
What he said.
Cause it amuses me? What more reason do I need? :inquisitive: Plus more factions= more diplomacy, which is the coolest aspect of a game like this for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
however, we have a problem. Suboton got himself banned....... Not sure if it is permanent or temp, but his account is banned.
at least, I think so, I cant see his public profile and his user title is gone......
Edit: I am wrong, He is probably just got a bunch of warning points for the Alt account thread in the watchtower.
Soooo... replacement/sitter?
Ok I'm all for more diplomacy, how about we confine him to Monteriggioni? :tongue:
Well he wont be needing all that land then, let's see there are four regions in france's land and three of us who want land, I think its simple I get the southern most region, switzerland the easternmost, england the northen one and Savoy can become a seperate state again.
In all serious I had noticed he had been acting strangely recently he started out a aloof jerk who looked down his nose at me and pizza but for the past few days he's been pretty immature.
Listen, the bottom line is no one is taking France :brood:. I am going to help him push back the Swiss and Spanish, and then I will work out a peace treaty. He is going to keep france just as he did before this war. That is my final answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
You guys heard me say it was a temp right? I think he got some IP's for the Alt thread. Nothing has changed :brood: No one is taking over France.
No. If you want me to back down you are going to have to make france give up all the hexes he has on the mediteranian coast to me and the rest of savoy to Switzerland. He can have his capital back but there is no way in heck I am backing down without compensation.
CDF, I'm not trying to get you guys to kill France or anything. I'm trying to reach a diplomatic solution.
Spain gets SW France, the part that it touches. England gets the rest of the northern province. France gets SE France, and Pizza gets Savory and a small tribute from the other 3 to make up for the least land. Alternatively, Spain could get Savory, France gets SW France, England keeps N France, and Swiss get SE France.
You all are free to do whatever you want with your land. That means France could end up with N France if CDF doesn't want it. And these are just suggestions, so no need to get testy.
Subotan got a temp. ban by the looks of it.
I think we should start dividing up his land at a reasonable level. We could weaken him and strengthen his neighbours, but leave him something to continue the game with.
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Originally Posted by Double A
That is not a compromise, it is victory terms. Spain has not won, and neither has Switzerland. Until such a time that they have I see no reason to think France would ever accept such foolishly harsh terms. As such I stand by my own beliefs. France will remain a sovereign nation. That is all I have to say on the matter. If Switzerland wanted Savoy I don't really care about that, but France will stay in French hands. I don't want any more of his land, and do not plan on letting Spain have any either.
Oh go boil your head, we've won, I have his capital, his armies are all but gone, his forts are abandoned and the king is indisposed I dont know about you but I consider that a victory. He should be lucky that we are willing to let him have any land left over at all.
so france is banned?
The saxons want to make a formal announcement that i am sure all of you have already guessed is forthcoming.
The Saxon people are fully commited to the noble battle our Englaski brethern have taken up. We commit to anything short of war to help our brothers acheive their noble goals. We will drive these Southern Papist pigs from the land sof France as we will regretfully do with our brothers in Christ, the Swiss. No matter how many men we must give or how much money we will see these goals accomplished.
nvrmind I was really angry there for a minute. Calmed down. I will stick by France, as my agreement with him dictates.
Gotta love diplomacy, two guys repeating the same tired things in interesting ways untill one gets tired and says "I quit".
Actually I was angry at france for getting himself banned at such a horrible time, and for leaving his capitol wide open like that. :wall::wall::wall: I mean REALLY?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
(for the interested I was going to say screw it and then turn my back on European politics, turn isolationist and all that. :tongue: I got over it.)
If you want I can keep going with you though. honestly I would not care if I did not have an agreement with him. But I like keeping my word as much as possible.
You know what, if you can find a replacement France I'll back down completely. Promise.
GB just because you have his capital doesn't mean you've won. However it does mean you're pretty screwed.
Fine how about Spain gets 1/4, Swiss get 1/5, Saxony gets the shaft, and France gets the rest, because obviously CDF would rather have France as big as possible.
If Subotan does not get unbanned soon and has to be replaced I think I just got a new player who would be willing to take over. :juggle2: But we might as well wait and see how long the ban is, it may just be for the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades