Pokemon Nuzlocke FireRed Mafia [Concluded]

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

Well, for the future, when I say I don't understand, please take that seriously. I'll hold off on voting until such time as you present the analysis. Just don't leave it for EOD.

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Like i just said, my main priority is not satisfying montmorency, but figuring out the game.

All right, Monsieur d'Montmorency, what is it that you do not understand about Zack's actions today?

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Originally Posted by Zack

Like i just said, my main priority is not satisfying montmorency, but figuring out the game.

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Last comment on this strand: If you post something that is meant to be obvious to the whole thread, but I say it's not obvious to me, then you can't reveal anything extra by clarifying to me personally what you meant. That's just basic communication and courtesy.

I reiterate the question in #1352 and call on both of you to remain civil. We are not Democrats.

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

Last comment on this strand: If you post something that is meant to be obvious to the whole thread, but I say it's not obvious to me, then you can't reveal anything extra by clarifying to me personally what you meant. That's just basic communication and courtesy.

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You are not listening to what I am saying. This is not some personal insult on your honor. Your reaction surprised me and I wanted to see it develop so I could try and figure out how it factored into your alignment. I also wanted Csargo and others to respond before I fully clarified anything. Theoretically any wolf that looked at their wolf chat before reading the thread would immediately pick up that I was hinting at being the one who blocked Csargo (and judging by his reaction, he did know he was blocked) -- under this theory, you and Jabbz look townier because you didn't realize what I was talking about and Jabbz didn't care. I thought you were partnered with Csargo, but your confusion gave me pause and I wanted to see how you went further with that, especially after GH and Csargo responded. For all I know, it could have been an act dude. Putting on a performance is definitely something that's in your scum wheelhouse.

Do you see how this is consistent with my claim that my goal here is to not provide Montmorency with the clearest possible picture of the gamestate, but for Zack to figure out other people's alignments? I'm not being rude to you, as you seem to think, I'm playing a game in which poking for reactions and the like is extremely common.

And if your response is to say that, well I'm an asshole and should have just answered your question. Well you've ignored and refused to answer some of my own questions as you saw fit. Everyone has their own agenda.

HI I just drove 5 hours and I'm now in dirty Jersey.

Ew.

Mobile posting until Monday.

Ew.

Zack tell me what to do babe

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Originally Posted by Zack

You are not listening to what I am saying. This is not some personal insult on your honor. Your reaction surprised me and I wanted to see it develop so I could try and figure out how it factored into your alignment. I also wanted Csargo and others to respond before I fully clarified anything. Theoretically any wolf that looked at their wolf chat before reading the thread would immediately pick up that I was hinting at being the one who blocked Csargo (and judging by his reaction, he did know he was blocked) -- under this theory, you and Jabbz look townier because you didn't realize what I was talking about and Jabbz didn't care. I thought you were partnered with Csargo, but your confusion gave me pause and I wanted to see how you went further with that, especially after GH and Csargo responded. For all I know, it could have been an act dude. Putting on a performance is definitely something that's in your scum wheelhouse.

Do you see how this is consistent with my claim that my goal here is to not provide Montmorency with the clearest possible picture of the gamestate, but for Zack to figure out other people's alignments? I'm not being rude to you, as you seem to think, I'm playing a game in which poking for reactions and the like is extremely common.

And if your response is to say that, well I'm an asshole and should have just answered your question. Well you've ignored and refused to answer some of my own questions as you saw fit. Everyone has their own agenda.

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OK. But I do believe I made an effort to answer all your direct questions on reasoning and analysis, except one that would have involved a lot of work at EOD.

It was just annoying that you seemed to expect me to understand something (which GH apparently got), but I couldn't figure out what it was and you seemed unwilling to just reword what you had openly said. Reaction tests are one thing, that was straight mindgames.

I'm ready to move on.

That's a lot of words that make me wanna lynch Monty.

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Originally Posted by Zack

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

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That's one sweet gif tbh.

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Originally Posted by Sooh

http://www.popsci.com/sites/popsci.c.../fireworks.gif

Just for you, Csargo

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Still the best post itt.

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Originally Posted by Csargo

That's one sweet gif tbh.

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At this rate I will absolutely lynch you. Do something good for town. You just got pre-counterclaimed.

You just got pre-counterclaimed.

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Originally Posted by Csargo

That's one sweet gif tbh.

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Originally Posted by Csargo

Still the best post itt.

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Approaching lolcat territory.

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Originally Posted by Zack

Approaching lolcat territory.

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He essentially kills off discussion this way, and allows his partner(s?) to hide in the general tsunami of votes against him.

I remember that on Day One, or possibly Day Two, he made a fluffy post about how he liked my posting style. I do love playing in character, Lemon, but this is something one does remember, and it is well.

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Originally Posted by Zack

Approaching lolcat territory.

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There's not much to say really. I've said what I need to say.

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Originally Posted by Csargo

There's not much to say really. I've said what I need to say.

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Claim your full role, that couldn't hurt.

I just want to be your friend zack pls.

I believe, Csargo, that this is the appropriate response to your inanities:

http://resources3.news.com.au/images...olcat-army.gif

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

At this rate I will absolutely lynch you. Do something good for town. You just got pre-counterclaimed.

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Come on, Monsieur de Montmorency. I urge you to join our axis of evil, as you have described it.

https://i.imgur.com/4SyOa.gif

More than a little disappointed that no one made a single observation regarding my reads list. I feel a bit extraneous at this moment.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Jabbz, if any part of my attack against you came off as an implication that you were lying about your RL commitments, then I apologize as that was not my intention. I like to think I don't resort to those tactics when hunting mafia and if it even comes close to crossing the line then that's on me. Overall though I still think you're mafia, largely due to overall output of posts and specifically what I highlighted in my last reads list - in general I think you're being far too careful and measured in your posting and I think you made a slip yesterday. But Csargo can die first.

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If that wasn't you're intent then we're all good. I stand by my argument, there is a difference in the amount of time necessary to follow compared to posting. As to being careful with my posts, ensuring I use factual information with my arguments is kind of important when you're town. That you see being measured and careful as a bad thing strikes me as odd. Either way, I'm fairly convinced you're scum, so I'm not likely to change your mind anyway :P

Very busy friday and weekend ahead, pity I wasn't night-killed. I blame Zack. Or Csargo.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

in general I think you're being far too careful and measured in your posting and I think you made a slip yesterday. But Csargo can die first.

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Remind me, what was Jabbz' slip?

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

You just got pre-counterclaimed.

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Hehe. I think you were the only one who didn't understand Zack's claim immediately, not saying that's alignment indicative though.

Vote: Csargo

BBL

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Originally Posted by Jabbz

If that wasn't you're intent then we're all good. I stand by my argument, there is a difference in the amount of time necessary to follow compared to posting. As to being careful with my posts, ensuring I use factual information with my arguments is kind of important when you're town. That you see being measured and careful as a bad thing strikes me as odd. Either way, I'm fairly convinced you're scum, so I'm not likely to change your mind anyway :P

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Thoughts on Zack/Csargo/Monty?

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Originally Posted by Zack

Approaching lolcat territory.

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Relevant to the next statement; see below.

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Originally Posted by El Barto

He essentially kills off discussion this way, and allows his partner(s?) to hide in the general tsunami of votes against him.

I remember that on Day One, or possibly Day Two, he made a fluffy post about how he liked my posting style. I do love playing in character, Lemon, but this is something one does remember, and it is well.

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Emphasis mine. Either your memory is faulty, or you are deliberately lying. Zack was not around on day 1 and 2. He subbed in for Choxorn the morning of Day 3.

El Barto moves up a peg on my scum ladder.

I'm pretty sure Barto was talking about Csargo, Logic.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

I'm pretty sure Barto was talking about Csargo, Logic.

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If that is indeed the case, I will retract my admonishment of El Barto. But I cannot find the statement made by Csargo that El Barto is referencing.

I mean, it's the same story, but vice-versa: if Csargo flips town, Zack has to die.

Vote: Csargo

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Originally Posted by novice

Hehe. I think you were the only one who didn't understand Zack's claim immediately, not saying that's alignment indicative though.

Vote: Csargo

BBL

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And how could GH even have a gut vote on Csargo if he was voting on the basis of a perceived claim by Zack - unless he wasn't voting on the basis of a perceived claim and he didn't actually understand what Zack was saying in the first place!

And why would Csargo claim to have blocked Zack with no further comment if he understood Zack as having claimed to have blocked him?

I really hope you aren't all bussing scum who got together for the sole purpose of confusing me into voting how you want. That would be evil.

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

And how could GH even have a gut vote on Csargo if he was voting on the basis of a perceived claim by Zack - unless he wasn't voting on the basis of a perceived claim and he didn't actually understand what Zack was saying in the first place!

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I've read this sentence over three times but still can't understand it - can you rephrase?