Capo de Tutti Capi - II [Concluded]

Three suspects all pointing the finger at one another.

BURN 'EM... BURRRRRRRRRRRRRN 'EM!

Ichigo, the fact is it seems, considering he could not of found results for his investigation because he died that, though he was proven innocent, he may of simply been making speculation.

And although Sigurd Fafnesbane is on my suspicious list - Kagemusha - who tried to point the finger at Sigurd, is far more, "Scummy", than Sigurd is presently.
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General Hankerchief is either bored and busy, or he is playing a very nice strategy and fooling everyone.
Why? He has been under scrutiny, but everyone has been so unsure about him that we simply haven't got around to doing anything about him.

So he answers everything with a metaphorical, "Why me? Just because I am GH?"

Now that I have looked at his past posts, I think he should either be completely cleared or lynched.
Maybe that will have him say something.

I can imagine everyone in the post-game saying, "Ha ha, sly work GH you did us over again!".

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Originally Posted by Andres

Read the rules, read my role pm. If involved in murder, you come up as "guilty". Criminal means I wasn't involved in murders.

So again: I was not involved in any killings whatsoever. So this means that I'm a Wiseguy who has not worked yet for the mafia.

I think there are better suspects to lynch, but feel free to keep focusing on Wiseguy #14 who has no ties to any of the mafia families.

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Mades and Lucas come up as guilty on the night they murder someone, criminal otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Pannonian

Mades and Lucas come up as guilty on the night they murder someone, criminal otherwise.

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"Criminal" = I cannot be a Don, since Don = "innocent".
I got protected last night. The write-up suggests that I hade 1 (one) protector.

Can the Luca protect his Made?
Can the Luca protect himself?

Vote: Twilightblade

People are pointing suspicion toward each others, and let this person got away after what he did last time...?

Why are you so intent on Twilightblade, Tran?
I'm dead, he won't be helping me anymore.

Twilightblade is the very last on everybody's list - but you have done nothing in this entire thread except ask for his lynching.

Why? What fierce reason is there to make him a more worthy candidate than GH, Andres, or Kagemusha?

Perhaps you should stay away from voting - or Holmes might find you out!

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Originally Posted by Andres

"Criminal" = I cannot be a Don, since Don = "innocent".
I got protected last night. The write-up suggests that I hade 1 (one) protector.

Can the Luca protect his Made?
Can the Luca protect himself?

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Oh so you are saying you are a Luca or a Made?
Besides I think I showed how a Don could get a criminal result in my previous post.

And as for the investigation results, Seamus has a thread dedicated to explain this in detail.
It clearly states that Mades can't get guilty results. Only a detective can.
That you have be found criminal without establishing the role of the one making the investigation is another clamp on your defence. Why are you pushing this? Could it be, because you suspect this investigation were made by a made? :beam: and therefore suits your defence?

It is too easy to punch holes in your explanation Andres, and it is not just because your username starts with an A.

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Originally Posted by Extract from Glenn's kill write-up

”You deserve more pain than a quick death for your heresy,”

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That's what happens when you turn on your own family Glenn. Might you of failed to turn up to one of their kill groups and annoyed the wrong people, tisk tisk.

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Originally Posted by ajaxfetish

Yellow Rose Group
--Zorg was killed on night 3 in a public bathroom. Amid the chaos of machine-gun fire and grenades, police found an inexplicable yellow rose.

Zorg seems to be introducing a new mafia family to us, as the unexplained presence of a 'single perfect yellow rose,' is about as clear a calling card as I can imagine, but it hadn't shown up previously that I noticed.

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Funny you should say introducing. Not to many mafia families kill with old-style German grenades, maybe a family wasn't getting noticed previously and decided to make a mark so they used Zorg as an example. Or pehaps Zorg was part of the family and made a sacrifice for the good of the family so they could be seen as contenders. Though judging by the yellow rose, which in German resembles jealousy or infidelity, a lesser known rival family wanted to express a show of strength and poor Zorg was an innocent victim. Alternatively it could be nothing more than mafia family infighting and again Zorg was just unluckly, teaches you for being mafia Zorg :pimp2:
Either way this kill is very interesting, and I strongly believe Zorg was a symbol along with the rose, but a symbol of what...?

EDIT: spelling

Vote: Sigurd Fafnesbane

You're trying really hard to get Andres lynched and your arguments are far less likely to be true than his defense IMO. I have a hard time trusting you anyway and maybe we should go for a double lynch of GH/Sigurd today as I can't vote for both.

Current Tally:
GeneralHankerchief: 5 (prole, CA, TruePraetorian, ajaxfetish, Omanes Alexandrapolites)
Andres: 4 (CR, Gibsong91921, TinCow, Sigurd Fafnesbane)
Sigurd: 3 (Kagemusha, Ichigo, Husar)
Rhytmic: 1 (Kommodus)
Twilightblade: 1 (Tran)
Present: 1 (GH)
Abstain: 3 (XeHHII, Hiji, Ichigo)

It might also make sense to keep bold and black for votes (this goes especially to Sigurd, whose vote I almost missed due to all the black bolded names in the same post).

Bloody hell! What a night! :sweatdrop:

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A very dangerous accusation and I want Drisos to acknowledge the fact that he is just guessing and badly so.

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No, I'm not just guessing... :wall:

And as for Andres, and other wise guys... I don't it's going to help for the defense now... vigilant groups have done an attempted four kills? I say start double- or triple- lynching wiseguys...

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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane

Oh so you are saying you are a Luca or a Made?
Besides I think I showed how a Don could get a criminal result in my previous post.

And as for the investigation results, Seamus has a thread dedicated to explain this in detail.
It clearly states that Mades can't get guilty results. Only a detective can.
That you have be found criminal without establishing the role of the one making the investigation is another clamp on your defence. Why are you pushing this? Could it be, because you suspect this investigation were made by a made? :beam: and therefore suits your defence?

It is too easy to punch holes in your explanation Andres, and it is not just because your username starts with an A.

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Criminal = I cannot be a Don. What idiot of a Don would participate in a killing? Please.

I got protected by one person. A Luca would only protect his Don, so I got protected by a townsperson.

What do you want Sigurd? That I publicly reveal the identity of a doctor? I prefer to get lynched then giving the mafia that kind of information. Besides, I don't know who protected me.

Like I said, I'm just your regular Wiseguy. One who hasn't cooperated with the mafia thus far.

You were named as a Don by someone who turned out to be a detective, remember? Tell me, what did you do on N1, N2 and N3 and please post the results of your night actions, like I did.

P.S.: Thank you for pointing out that the investigation result on me must have come from a Made. Don't forget that it was Sasaki who revealed that result, ergo Sasaki is in contact with the mafia.

I would like to draw the attention to the players not contributing... Some are known lurkers but others are not.
The list: (Name, no. of posts)... Blue = killed.



Makanyane 9
Proletariat 9
Lt. Pinard 8
Joe Monks 8
shlin28 8
Xehh II 7
Dutch_guy 7
Northnovas 7
kamikhaan 6
FactionHeir 6
Haudegen 6
Twilightblade 6
Elite Ferret 5
Tran 5
Big King Sanctaphrax 5
LittleGrizzly 5
Cowhead418 3
Xiahou 3
Alexander the Pretty Good 3
Warluster 3
Draco Leman 2
Leet Eriksson 2
Evil_Maniac From Mars 2
gibsonsg91921 2
Hiji 2
taka 2
johnhughthom 2
sapi 1
Warmaster Horus 1
Motep 1
Jubal_Barca 1
Caeser The III 1
Ironside 1
Lord Winter 1

Read the rules and the Code of Ethics instead of ruining the fun for the other participants. Think before you post. - Andres

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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane

I would like to draw the attention to the players not contributing... Some are known lurkers but others are not.

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As long as we aren't paying attention to you and Sasaki, eh?

Anyway, look at the last write-up from Seamus. There will be WoG's next round. I suggest we look at the lurkers tomorrow. Those who didn't get WoG'ed that is.

Now, I'll repeat: a detective (whose role got confirmed) named you as a Don. What did you do on N1, N2 and N3 and post the results you got from Seamus, please.

Not quite sure on the backgrounds of the votes, and I don't want to bandwagon so for this round I will Vote:Abstain.

Wow. I didn't mean that to reach the public.

I'd like to say very sincerely that I apologise for any troubles this may cause with the running of the game as I know I was not supposed to reveal until it was over. I thought I could trust pevergreen as a personal friend not to say anything as we were both dead. However this has proven to be wrong.

I regret having revealed and apologise for any effects this may have on gameplay. :sick:

You're lucky you're dead pever, or I'd ask for your wog for that.

Gameroom Mafia Player’s Code of Ethics

I will not quote from a private message or from a chat log in the main thread of a mafia game and will not do so in private messages, e-mails, or other communications with anyone who was not originally a party to that message or chat unless permitted to do so by the game host.

pevergreen, you broke the Code of Ethics by posting that :brood:

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Originally Posted by Zorg

Wow. I didn't mean that to reach the public.

I'd like to say very sincerely that I apologise for any troubles this may cause with the running of the game as I know I was not supposed to reveal until it was over. I thought I could trust pevergreen as a personal friend not to say anything as we were both dead. However this has proven to be wrong.

I regret having revealed and apologise for any effects this may have on gameplay. :sick:

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The chatlog is from today, so you revealed before the post mortem autopsy. That's a serious violation of the rules.

Seamus will not be happy :no:

The only reason I am not closing this thread pending staff discussion is because of the effort put in this by the host and the exceptional number of participants just trying to have fun while respecting the rules.

Forward the post to Seamus, then delete it.

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Originally Posted by Andres

Criminal = I cannot be a Don. What idiot of a Don would participate in a killing? Please.

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I would if I were an Don ... Come on, what better cover can a Don have, acting like a townie or a wise guy?

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I got protected by one person. A Luca would only protect his Don, so I got protected by a townsperson.

What do you want Sigurd? That I publicly reveal the identity of a doctor? I prefer to get lynched then giving the mafia that kind of information. Besides, I don't know who protected me.

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So... you do know and then you don't...

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Like I said, I'm just your regular Wiseguy. One who hasn't cooperated with the mafia thus far.

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Not proved.

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You were named as a Don by someone who turned out to be a detective, remember? Tell me, what did you do on N1, N2 and N3 and please post the results of your night actions, like I did.

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Please not this again...
And for the record I have not participated in any action whatsoever during these 3 nights... and I would like to hear from someone claiming I did...

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P.S.: Thank you for pointing out that the investigation result on me must have come from a Made. Don't forget that it was Sasaki who revealed that result, ergo Sasaki is in contact with the mafia.

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Your welcome... so you are saying the result should have been guilty.

See, how easy it is to punch holes in someones defense?
unvote:Andres

I was merely making a show of how easy it is to drum up a case against any player. All I have accused you of is pure speculation on my side, I have no concrete evidence other that you have confirmed that

A. An investigation on you will turn out as criminal.
B. You accused me of being a Don based on speculation and a blanket statement from a detective that did no investigations and somehow miraculously knows this to be true. I am tempted to demand this evidence presented so we can get to the bottom of it.
C. You worked with The Stranger... this is just criminal alone :beam: .

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Originally Posted by Husar

You're trying really hard to get Andres lynched and your arguments are far less likely to be true than his defense IMO. I have a hard time trusting you anyway and maybe we should go for a double lynch of GH/Sigurd today as I can't vote for both.

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While I'm still suspicious of Twilightblade, I have to agree with Husar. Andres might be scummy, but Sigurd seems more suspicious...

Unvote
Vote: Sigurd

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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane

B. You accused me of being a Don based on speculation and a blanket statement from a detective that did no investigations and somehow miraculously knows this to be true. I am tempted to demand this evidence presented so we can get to the bottom of it.

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There was a role in CDTC that knew the identity of the mafia dons from the very start of the game.

It's possible that Seamus invented something similar for this game.

No night actions? How convenient...

Besides, my defense is solid as a rock, go see a doctor, your fists don't look so healthy :nurse: ~;p

For god's sake!

I hope the lurkers or spectators are noticing that there are two players here wrestling, the one to show the other guilty - and there are about 12 potential suspects coming and going as they please, supporting whichever bandwagon they should choose and disappearing again.

I'm not trying to take anyone's attention away from anyone-

But I am trying to broaden the tunnelvision of the voters here!!

Kommodus - speak up! You are the only one who agrees with me!

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

Yes I do, which is why before I post anything I check the rules thread

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Originally Posted by Rules

Chatlog conversations may be referenced/quoted, but may not be copied via screenshot. Note: it can be difficult to maintain role secrecy during chat conversations.

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Originally Posted by Rules

I will not quote from a private message or from a chat log in the main thread of a mafia game and will not do so in private messages, e-mails, or other communications with anyone who was not originally a party to that message or chat unless permitted to do so by the game host.

Such quotations are permitted in Capo - II, provided that no screenshots are used and that none of the restricted information (noted in red on your role PMs) from your role PMs is discussed. Please remember that our creative group might also be fabricating this sort of thing.

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Originally Posted by Rules

The dead may post, but not vote/select nor carry out any night actions. Dead players may not reveal their roles publicly or privately until that role has been revealed as per section V and may not reveal their “familiy” or role particulars even after that time. Dead players may not quote from a PM unless that PM has been posted in the public thread by a living player. Dead players may not reveal, recount or allude to their previous night actions (or results thereof in the case of investigations) publicly or privately – even to confirm a previously made public or private reveal. Remember, even if dead you can still score well provided your “side” achieves victory. Your participation must be circumspect, but your continued participation IS encouraged.

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I posted - Allowed. I did not allude to any of my night actions - allowed. I did not reveal my role - allowed. I did not quote a PM - Allowed.

So I'm disputing the warning. Why, to my knowledge and the rules as per my interpretation, I have done nothing wrong.

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A pm I sent.

For reference. After I died, I've been checking each post to make sure it doesnt go against anything in the Capo Rules thread.

sorry for being quiet, I've been in Spain and forgot to say :wall:, it's nice to see I'm still alive though I think I'll be a long way behind now.

OOC: (out of character)
I would just have to say that players who keep ignoring rules, and important rules as such, should receive a temporary ban from participating in mafia games.
If they so do it again when they return to the fold there should be a permanent ban.

pevergreen has walked the thin line in many games and I would have to say ruined the last game I played.
I was a late mafia coming into the game and somehow every member of the mafia got picked one after the other suggesting cheating. There were several friends of his in my group and one claimed that his account had been breached. I haven't played a game since... until now.
I am sad that this is really a show stopper for me. :no:

I have never been in any other account but pevergreen.

Seems more people disliked me than I thought.

The game host will decide if rules were broken or not.

I suggest we let this rest and continue the game.

Now, Sasaki, Sigurd pointed out that the result you got on me, must have come from a Made gangster.

Who was your contact? Did you cooperate with him? What were you doing N1, N2 and N3?

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

Seems more people disliked me than I thought.

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I never carry a long grudge.
There are other reasons for me not being active in this forum. Don't be too hard on yourself, just redeem your playstyle and all will be forgotten. :yes:

I'm feeling ill so I might not be active the first next days.

seamus please don't WOG me.