Netherworld III: Final Judgment [Concluded]

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Originally Posted by woad&fangs

vote: chaotix
The cultists aren't killing. Hades is killing. MRD joined after Hades started killing people so lets not waste a lynch on him until after Hades is dead. You however are a known power role who has not said anything to the town about what you do. The protown network seems to back you up but I don't trust that much in a game where the host said he would mess with protown networks.

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On some points I agree with you, on others I disagree.

The cult not killing means something significant, it's not to be taken for granted. At this point, I've thought of two major possibilities. They're either a sleeper cult who wins by converting everybody possible and don't kill, or they get to kill only after Hades dies. If that's the case, we may very well be looking at two or more kills per night soon as Hades kicks it, depending on how large they've grown.

Personally, I'd rather lynch a known anti-town of lesser value than take a chance and go for the big one, especially since it's going to be easier to catch Hades if we have less people to consider, and we have time since he's only killing one a night.

You want my ability: at this point enough people know that I am better off revealing it. I'm a roleblocker, the same one who was cited as having roleblocked glyphz back when we were debating lynching him. Unfortunately, those blocks don't prove he's not Hades since they occurred before he started killing.

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Originally Posted by Zack

TheLastDays should be lynched. At best, he's anti-town, and at worst -- well, he's lynchbait, and a distraction, anyways.

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:yes:

I'm now the what... 5th? 6th? person that voted for him that has ended up dead. He's not dead yet. No reasonable scum would leave a lynchbait alive this long to post this much, that's way too dangerous. He needs to die, and now. Avenge my death! And Believer's, and Secura's, and DIY's, and Earthling's... :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by Choxorn

No reasonable scum would leave a lynchbait alive this long to post this much, that's way too dangerous.

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Any reasonable scum would be insane to kill lynchbait. :wink:

If you want to avenge these deaths you will have to go for someone else. I haven't killed anyone nor can I kill. If you want to vent frustration for not being able to lynch me yet, go ahead and lynch me. There is no high chance I am scum. There are no chances. One is scum the other is not. I am not.

vote: Riedquat
Why have you wagoned pretty much everyone who has been lynched, except WE and Pizza, who likely were scum?

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Originally Posted by TheLastDays

I haven't killed anyone nor can I kill.

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What a meaningless statement; even if it's true, and you haven't in fact killed anyone, that certainly doesn't automatically make you town.

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If you want to vent frustration for not being able to lynch me yet, go ahead and lynch me. There is no high chance I am scum. There are no chances. One is scum the other is not. I am not.

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This reads awkwardly. Not to mention, it doesn't say anything except "It's unlikely I'm scum. Oh wait, there's no chance, my bad." That's a terrible defense. What would you expect a scum to say? "Yep, I'm scum!" No, of course not.

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Originally Posted by TheLastDays

If you want to avenge these deaths you will have to go for someone else. I haven't killed anyone nor can I kill. If you want to vent frustration for not being able to lynch me yet, go ahead and lynch me. There is no high chance I am scum. There are no chances. One is scum the other is not. I am not.

vote: Riedquat
Why have you wagoned pretty much everyone who has been lynched, except WE and Pizza, who likely were scum?

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Umm... what the flying....heck? :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

Seriously? I had the best motive ever to not vote W_E, you seemed way more suspicious to me at the time, and right now too to be honest, that is a lot to say considering I consider W_E as dead scum!! Btw... you didn't vote for him either, you were voting Earthling!!! A pro town!!!

And Pizza? Are you freaking serious? That wagon was totally random, you know it, you were there saving Glyphz... didn't you apologize with pizza for that switching? Now are you telling me and the rest of the town you knew something about pizza at that time? Earthling and Yaropolk probably... you?

AMLoS: TLD

Vote: Woad & Fangs

Get talking. :whip:

Groan.

Pizza was townie. Pizza still is townie, albeit dead. Wagon on pizza was single biggest waste of time this whole game, since people are still talking about it.

Pizza has not been lynched as a mafioso (excludes serial killer) without a detective result since The Prometheus, his second game ever.

You people do not lynch Pizza as scum without detective results. The streak continues.

Why is TLD still alive?

Why is glyphz still alive?

I realize this comes right after Tratorix' "why is TLD still alive" but I'm genuinely curious. Has anything ever cleared him?

Disregard that vote.

Unvote; Vote: The Last Days.

Let's kill him off already, at minimum, he is a big distraction to the town which is enough excuse to get rid of him instead of having 5 posts per page going "ZOMG Y IS HE ALIVE!".

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Why is glyphz still alive?

I realize this comes right after Tratorix' "why is TLD still alive" but I'm genuinely curious. Has anything ever cleared him?

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I roleblocked him 3 times early on because Yaro and I thought he was Giant Axe Guy, and that cleared him of being everybody except Hades, because Hades didn't show up till after all of those blocks. So while I'd love to rule him out, I can't, and again it's annoyingly convenient how there seems to be some sort of connection there.

I'll go with the TLD lynch, but MRD still has to go, and then we gotta find Ishtar or they will simply overrun us.

If there's six townies left when we lynch Hades and three of them are cultists, THEY win, not us.

Unvote, Vote: TheLastDays

I wouldn't lynch TheLastDays if I were you.

Which baddies are you still looking for?

I can't reveal what I know, but I'm almost sure TLD isn't one of them.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I wouldn't lynch TheLastDays if I were you.

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Secura keeps raging that we should and has listed 101 reasons to do so.

Give us some good reasons why not!

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Originally Posted by Beskar

Secura keeps raging that we should and has listed 101 reasons to do so.

Give us some good reasons why not!

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I only need to give you one reason. However, I can't do that while I'm dead.

The one reason trumps every other reason, apologies to Secura, whose opinion I generally respect.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I only need to give you one reason. However, I can't do that while I'm dead.

The one reason trumps every other reason, apologies to Secura, whose opinion I generally respect.

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"He is my scum buddy."

If you believe I am townie, I would listen to me on this point.

If you believe I am scum, lynch TheLastdays.

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Originally Posted by Beskar

"He is my scum buddy."

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That is the ONLY other possibility.

So, like I said. If you think I am scum, lynch him immediately. If you think the streak continues and I've been lynched as a townie yet again based on zero reasons, then you are about to commit an error.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

If you believe I am townie, I would listen to me on this point.

If you believe I am scum, lynch TheLastdays.

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I was jesting, but since you are so keen on that, let's do it this way.

The Last Days, tell us what Pizza wants to tell us.

And you reply "I am a vanilla townie", I am not unvoting you because you are being a big distraction at this stage and it would be simpler just to have you out of the way so we can get other people to talk more.

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Originally Posted by Beskar

The Last Days, tell us what Pizza wants to tell us.

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Wise choice, Beskar.

However, I would like a response to my question.

Who are the baddies still remaining that you're looking for?

Please list them all, including the ones you may think are dead. If I'm going to be of any use I need to know what the current status is.

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Originally Posted by Chaotix

I roleblocked him 3 times early on because Yaro and I thought he was Giant Axe Guy, and that cleared him of being everybody except Hades, because Hades didn't show up till after all of those blocks. So while I'd love to rule him out, I can't, and again it's annoyingly convenient how there seems to be some sort of connection there.

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Coincidences happen, usually because the person in question is guilty.

I have no idea, but man, that sorta seems like an obvious lead.

There is the black ooze guy killing everyone. The piece of nasty work which I presume everyone here would like out of the game as soon as possible.

There is talk of a couple of cultists, but the only recruit we have seen is the one early in game, "Ishtar" named as such by Andres who apparently has very long legs and he has fingered MRD as being the main suspect (Then again, Andres is anti-town in some fashion, so not that reliable) then there was that jokey reply from MRD suggesting he was a recruited cult member. I don't know anything more about this cult.

As for pro-town still around, there is Anjou Mainyu (he is still in the write-ups) and Chaotix seems to have backing from Yaropolk and Earthling of being a town role. So a possible two pro-town roles.

My two main suspects are TLD and Woad&Fangs of being scum. It was TLD and Chaotix, but since Chaotix has the blacking of pro-town roles, I am willing to give him benefit of doubt, at least while there are scummier people around.

I believe it was Glyphz and John which were cult-link suggestions, I think it was Earthling who brought that up.

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Originally Posted by Beskar

There is the black ooze guy killing everyone. The piece of nasty work which I presume everyone here would like out of the game as soon as possible.

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Any confirmation on the gender of this killer?

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There is talk of a couple of cultists, but the only recruit we have seen is the one early in game, "Ishtar" named as such by Andres who apparently has very long legs and he has fingered MRD as being the main suspect (Then again, Andres is anti-town in some fashion, so not that reliable) then there was that jokey reply from MRD suggesting he was a recruited cult member. I don't know anything more about this cult.

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Andres being dead and suspected anti-town means you should probably ignore what he says, unless you can figure out exactly which team he was on, in which case he might have interesting information regarding teams that town and his own team were opposed to.

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As for pro-town still around, there is Anjou Mainyu (he is still in the write-ups)

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Possible, but I always thought Anjou was simply Khaan's narration. Then again I never knew a whole lot about this game.

Are you dead certain Anjou is in this game?

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and Chaotix seems to have backing from Yaropolk and Earthling of being a town role. So a possible two pro-town roles.

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Possibly, I have no opinion there. Don't you think, however, that Chaotix still being alive is rather odd?

Why would a suspected roleblocker still exist in the game at this point if he's been outed for a while?

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My two main suspects are TLD and Woad&Fangs of being scum. It was TLD and Chaotix, but since Chaotix has the blacking of pro-town roles, I am willing to give him benefit of doubt, at least while there are scummier people around.

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Pro-town roles don't always know what they're talking about. Trustworthy, their opinions are; trustworthy their failures are.

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I believe it was Glyphz and John which were cult suggestions, I think it was Earthling who brought that up.

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I hate to say it, but Earthling could be right. Lean glyphz over John, though.

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Originally Posted by Beskar

There is talk of a couple of cultists, but the only recruit we have seen is the one early in game, "Ishtar" named as such by Andres who apparently has very long legs and he has fingered MRD as being the main suspect

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Very long legs?

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Any confirmation on the gender of this killer?

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No, but the name "Hades" keeps popping up though. I cannot remember who the first person who brought that up was.

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Possible, but I always thought Anjou was simply Khaan's narration. Then again I never knew a whole lot about this game.

Are you dead certain Anjou is in this game?

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I don't have 100% proof (since I don't have khaan's rolelist), but from my understanding, Anjou is part of the game with only the little girl and old man storyteller being the narrators. Because since Anjou is the big leader guy, I am guessing he is like the "town mayor/leader" in a sense which the mafia has to get rid of, like that guy in Swords of the Moon with the bodyguards.

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Possibly, I have no opinion there. Don't you think, however, that Chaotix still being alive is rather odd?

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As I said last night, pure WIFOM. Unknown defender roles, etc. Being honest, I thought I was going to get night killed last night.

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I hate to say it, but Earthling could be right. Lean glyphz over John, though.

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I have in my mental note-book, which I will not fully disclose for obvious reasons. (I don't want my least suspected people getting killed off when there is random chance my most suspected ones do)

Speculation:

Hades could be the black ooze killer, Hades could also be the leader of a pro-Hades cult.

I honestly don't know, though. I've been baffled by Netherworld setups ever since the last one. I'm not too good with the mythology and I can't predict what goes on inside Khaan's unique mind.

I would think if the black ooze killer is opposed to the Hades cult, if any, the Hades cult should reveal one cultist now so we can destroy the Black Ooze Killer.

They would have information we don't have and point us at their top suspects.

That said, I am not certain their info is trustworthy either. I'd only listen if they could offer proof of their claims, evidence which we can see.

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Originally Posted by Beskar

No, but the name "Hades" keeps popping up though. I cannot remember who the first person who brought that up was.

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You are voting for that person...

Pizza all this is very confusing, you say you are and were a townie but at the same time defending TLD who is using the argument you were mafia to accuse others... bloody paradox...

And this fire-guy(Hades) going after Choxorn instead of Chaotix? Really? :inquisitive::dizzy2::inquisitive:

Vote: TLD