XVI -XVII mod

The Tartars are definitely a tough faction to play! I've now managed to get myself into wars with both the Swedes and the Russians - well Lesser Khazar was in Russian hands and lightly defended, so thought I'd swing by with one of my lesser Princes and a few bribed Cossacks (+3 weapons, nice!) The Swedes had the same idea, the Russians fled and I had to deal with a few pikes, hakkapelitaa and ryttas. The bribed moldukiya, zaporyzhne and cossack cav proved their worth in dealing with the Swedish cavalry, and once their 5* general was out of the way (ryttas crushed in a cossack / royal cav sandwich) the pikes took one look at my remaining missiles and fled the field. Another province added to the growing empire.

I also picked up Pereyaslavl by bribery earlier (hence the Cossacks in my army) after the Ukrainians were wiped out by the Danes. I now control Poland, Volhynia, Levidia, Crimea, Pereyaslavl and Lesser Khazar. Although Pereyaslavl is up for debate as I have a battle to fight when I get back to the game :oops: The Swedes have invaded with lots of dragoons and regimental cannon. I have a prince, three units of Ukrainian peasants, some atlis and more nogays than you shake an ass's jawbone at :laugh4: I think I'm going to have to hide in the woods for this one.

The economy is finally healthy after some early investment in farms and trade and no troop training for ten years, with most provinces turning over around 1000 fl/yr. The Poles have decided to mobilise their peasants (ie crusade) against Crimea. I'm not too worried - they "launched" it three years ago now and it's still in Prussia, its home province, too scared to enter Volhynia and face my garrison of 3000 tartars. Won't be too long before desertion erodes it away and I can look forward to a Polish civil war. Given a chance I will raid Prussia with a stack of atlis. If I win, the crusade will collapse. The Poles are still not attacking my small garrison in Poland, and so I'm able to build up there without any trouble, and am keeping the cheapo muslim levy troops flowing. Finally have Crimea teched up for dragoons and royal cav units, so I can start putting together slighly punchier armies now.

Next stop, Kiev, which is now rebel-held following the Danish Civil War. Fun campaign. I'll try to get some screenshots for you :2thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by The_Doctor

Ceg, is there anyway I can help with the mod?

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When the patch will be released I will start working on PMTW 2.0 the final release and only then I will be sure what I need.


@macsen rufus

Try to build the Sych - in any province with settlers - it will give you lots of good Ukrainian infantry.:2thumbsup:

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Try to build the Sych - in any province with settlers - it will give you lots of good Ukrainian infantry.

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I'm trying to, but don't know the tech tree required to build it :help: . All I've seen is the watchtower that says it's a pre-requisite, but beyond that nothing. What else do I need?

Settler resource in a province - there are 4 with this close to Crimea if I am correct.

:2thumbsup: I'll keep my eyes open for long queues of peasants with suitcases looking for a new home!

I've built my sych in Pereyaslavl, so have the Zaporozhye coming now with +3 weapons and +1 valour. Very tough units. On hold/hold they can take a pike charge and win, though not without major losses. Don't know what their morale is like, but I saw one unit whittled down from 160 to 1 man and he still didn't rout! They're a great help in holding back the Swedish onslaught.

The Polish 'crusade' has lost 75% of it's strength now, and is still sitting in its home province :2thumbsup: however the Poles and Swedes launched a joint attack on Volhynia. It was a close fought battle, with Muslim levy trying to hold a line against mercenary pikes. They eventually caved in, but not before my mercenary marksmen had knocked out both enemy generals. Once the levies folded, I brought in my re-inforcements, mostly v1 atlis, on the flanks of the joint Polish-Swedish force. One look at the horse archers deploying was enough to convince both enemy armies to retire, and a few rear charges on the retreating pikes turned it into a double rout. Unfortunately no cossack units for this battle, and I took serious losses, but they were mostly the levies who are easily replaced. I think I'm getting a better handle on tactics for the Tatars now, but it's still one of the most demanding factions I've played. I think I'll rely more on Cossack infantry though, they totally outshine the Tatar inf units. Even Ukrainian peasants are usable (especially with weapons at +3 :laugh4: ), great for flanking units held by the zaporozhyes.

I'm coming under more economic pressure again, and it's time to take more land. Kiev is still strongly garrisoned though, and Khazar (Russians' last province), whilst weak, would leave my borders a bit overstretched and make Lesser Khazar vulnerable once the attack is launched.

Looking forward to the patch - I assume it's going to sort out the problems with the stacks that have shields and highlight rings in the wrong place? Also found some stacks that are "invisible" - can't select them to see what they contain and agents can't act on them.

Sri, no screenshots yet, I've not reloaded Photoshop to the new machine :oops:

The unplanned delay of the patch ( real life + weather) gives some opportunties to grasp.
Because YanTraken works on the new animations couple of those will appear in the patch so earlier than in PMTW 2.0

First of these

Polish Husaria - its early form with one wing attached to the saddle. It was designed for historical battles and MP, because the animation file it uses could cause CTD and the unit itself is too important and couldn't be omitted in the campaign.

Watch in ave !

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b...orhusaria1.jpg

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b...orhusaria2.jpg

As you see they used more chainmail armour than later two-wing Winged Hussars.:book:

More to come - the inclusion of the new animations doesn't really delay the release of the patch - it is an excellent break from usually dull work on the patch.:2thumbsup:

Regards Cegorach

Spanish Herreruelo are another unit with new animations in the patch.:2thumbsup:

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b.../HERRUELLO.jpg

cegorach1, I must tell you. I have been playing TW since the very beginning, and I had given up and shelved and/or given away to friends my TW games. Then I found this mod. It is the best mod for MTW in my opinion. The sheer variety and immersion of this is amazing. It is so good it has made me post again on the .org, the fist time in over a year. One quick question, about every 1 in 5 times the game will freeze at opening menu, either at start up or when I am going to quit. Is this normal or am I missing something? I will tell you though, I always hold power button, reboot and play again. This is the only game I do this for, usually i say screw it and go on, but this mod is so great!

Eagerly awaiting patch and final version

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cegorach1, I must tell you. I have been playing TW since the very beginning, and I had given up and shelved and/or given away to friends my TW games. Then I found this mod. It is the best mod for MTW in my opinion. The sheer variety and immersion of this is amazing. It is so good it has made me post again on the .org, the fist time in over a year. One quick question, about every 1 in 5 times the game will freeze at opening menu, either at start up or when I am going to quit. Is this normal or am I missing something? I will tell you though, I always hold power button, reboot and play again. This is the only game I do this for, usually i say screw it and go on, but this mod is so great!

Eagerly awaiting patch and final version

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I am honoured, thank you !

The mod is my work (as the driving mind and the creator of roughly 50 % of the contents), but there are several people behind it, numerous other contributors - the credits in the mod should include them almost to the last person involved.

I still I have used about 60 % or less of the possibilities given by the engine.

The patch will expand the mod even further this time more in the diection of MP mode, but the campaign and generally SP mode (e.g. by historical battles) will not be left without improvements.


The answer to your question. It is hard to tell the sheer size of the mod means that it is harder to manage and purge from errors. In addition there are random and very rare problems created by hardware, other software or the 'human factor' ( like trying things I didn't foresee).
It is still huge BETA, so mistakes happen, but only few are critical or of any real importance, the incoming patch should solve numerous issues, but it never be completely safe - the closes I can get is perhaps 99,99 % problems eliminated and corrected.


THe future destination of the project is as fallows

1 - the patch,

2 - release 2.0 with more new music, historical heroes, historical battles, animations, graphics,new map and hopefully new castle maps,

3 - patch for 2.0 adding the final pices I left for the last moment - mostly the hardest animations and hopefully some video clips.

Every phase gives another chance to eliminate more and more mistakes, petty errors and the lst major bugs, but the size of the mod adds so many possibilities to create another problem that someone will for sure encounter something wrong.

I think you will be very pleased with the patch and future versions.


The mod should also be seen as the ultimate testing ground for MTW2 release which will be even more complicated and will require some serious effort of at least a dozen of people.

YanTraken just sent his another work, implementing it will take about 4-5 hours and I am sure you will be delighted all by the result - it is something so well made that I will include it in the patch.:2thumbsup:

Back to work.

Regards Cegorach:book:

Oh hell, the patch will be very spectacular!

Great work.

That is really great!! and when will this new patch be realesed?? :)

Soon. It depends how soon I will find couple of days to finish some most time consuming issues.

More latest improvements:

Husaria one of the most spectacular units in the game gets some aditional options

When 'dismounted' ( only during Sun King's Ambition) it appears with the long sword koncerz used when the lance wasn't necessary

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b...ch/koncerz.jpg

When fighting it uses pistols in addition to the sabre

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b...pistoletem.jpg

And now another famous unit

Ottoman Yenicheri with muskets

running

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b...h/janczar1.jpg

shooting - notice the unusual lenght of the firearm

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b...h/janczar2.jpg

finally charging in wedge formation they often used

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b...h/janczar3.jpg

Regards Cegorach :book:

Wow Ceg.You`re faster than me:laugh4:
Do You know what sleep time is?? ;)

I have started at 7 a.m. and it took only 2,5 h so was easier than expected - much thanks to the fact you have used Haiduk animations as the template.:2thumbsup:

The new Husaria look great! I can feel my atli tatarlar quaking in their boots already :help:

Having said that, they have reduced the Polish empire to Prussia in my current campaign, and have finally swept the Swedes out of Kiev, Ryazan and Muscovy (nice teched-up province that was, which earned me four new offices!)

The war with the Swedes has been long and bitter, with armies crossing from province to province in a dance of attack and counterattack like no other MTW game I've played. The Swedes are now left with Finland, Estonia, Novgorod, Livonia and Volga-Bulgaria (where I had their king trapped for a while, but he seems to have died and his successor is now in Novgorod). Sweden itself seems to be Dutch, according to my roaming emissary! The Russians are holed up in Khazar and suing for peace. Lithuania belongs to the Danes, also sending an emissary.

My Tatar armies now consist of approx. 4 Kipchak askers, 4 tatars with arkans, one or two Kirim (preferably a prince), 2 or three zaporozhye or becki, a unit or two of cossack cavalry, or nogay asker if I'm desperate, plus as many feudal levy, ukrainian peasants and atli tatarlar as I can find within striking distance. Going against the modern pike armies I really need more than 16 units though! First line up has the kipchaks and low-valour atlis to run ahead and harrass the enemy, whilst the heavy core (kirims, zaps, cossacks, arkans etc) sit well back and seize a dominant spot on the field. The kipchaks and atlis are cycled out for more atlis (higher valour, as this wave is more likely to need to melee), and segmen if available who go ahead with the arkans for the final volleys before the heavy core moves in. If things go to plan the zaps shoot seven kinds of stuffing out of the remnant enemy. If not, they can rough it up in melee with arkans and kirims taking care of the last of the cav. And feudal levies are used to flank the zaps and do a "mass charge" assuming they haven't run away yet. They are by far the worst troops I've seen in any version of MTW -- they make vanilla peasants look like well-trained supermen! Still, they're cheap, disposable rabble who would otherwise only clog up my slave markets :laugh4:

I love the first few seconds of deployment, as I usually start with Scorpion formation and the first move is always to pull out the 8-10 atlis/kipchaks to a loose-formation screen which stretches the entire width of the battlefield. If they happen to be coming over the brow of a hill its quite some sight for the enemy to see bearing down on them! Many a time the enemy have turned tail and fled at this point of the battle.

So, you may have guessed - I'm getting quite attached to my Crimean Khanate :laugh4:

Hungarian Huszárok have been upgraded as well - now in armour, woth shield and use sabres in melee.

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b...ch/hunhus1.jpg

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b...ch/hunhus2.jpg

Over 25 historical heroes are added - more than a dozen for the Dutch - unfortunatelly there is no possibility to add famous admirals so they will fight on the ground instead.

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b...ach/ruyter.jpg

Damn:furious3: ,I tried to put a large image but it didn`t worked,but here it is anyway:)
https://img205.imageshack.us/img205/...akenps9.th.jpg

The Crimean Khanate continues to expand. The Russian Tsar and his heir were defeated and killed in the battle for Khazar, both succumbing to Kipchak arrows. Of their grand army of 900 men, only 10 cowering rebels remain, holed up in the castle. An emissary has been despatched with a (small) bag of gold to help them see which way the Steppe winds blow.

In the north, Volga Bulgaria, Smolensk and Novgorod have been swept clean of the Swedish, and their last king died from the shock as he cowered in Finland. The remaining rebels in Finland, Estonia and Livonia have proven weak-willed and have succumbed to the gold offered by Roundheads. What's worse, a column of the Khan's own have also taken their filthy money! That can mean only one thing - invasion by the new foreign foe. Reinforcements are flying north across the steppe to meet this threat. The Roundhead armies will meet a million arrows when they attempt to land in Novgorod.

The Danes are being suspiciously quiet, their King sits in Lithuania with four columns of well armed snappahar, pikes and many cannon. The peace talks have not succeeded. The Khan regrets this other foreigner may need to be swept back into the Baltic too, to clear the way for the fight against the Roundheads.

The Polish king has suffered much at the hands of the Khan's hordes, and the multiple humiliations have left him a gibbering, unloved simpleton, ignored by all the world's great leaders.

Brave as his warriors are, the Khan laments his people's poor metalworking skills, and is very envious of the artillery the western armies can field. A few gunners are found in the mercenary markets, but too few, and attempts to bribe the Danish artillery train failed due to their lavish demands. It is a hard thing to fight cannon with horsemen, but where strength is lacking, guile provides. Even without cannon, sufficient sacrifice of the verminous levy can still force open castle gates. Still, the Khan wishes for cannons for siege and field warfare.

Now brave hordes, to the North where Roundhead ships are swarming in the Baltic!

One suggestion for the sieges - 'dismount' (change battle mode) of your infantry before one - you will see the situation changed much...:juggle2: .


YanTraken

Jeez, I don't know what to say.:sweatdrop:

maybe:
"Yes-this will be our official P&M logo sign(second)"
;)

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One suggestion for the sieges - 'dismount' (change battle mode) of your infantry before one - you will see the situation changed much... .

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Aaah! Thanks for that, I'll have a look. You've been very cunning with all the "battle mode" options :2thumbsup:

True it was more cunning than the most cunning or perhaps (suits it more) the cunningest plan of Baldrick.:laugh4:

Thanks to Beka from TWC and OiM team Georgia got much better unit roster - this almost completely closes the unit research for PMTW2 for MTW2 as well.

Here is the roster for years after 1572

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b...nowagruzja.jpg

Thought I'd share these with you:

what happens to a Polish king who crosses the Crimean Tatar Khanate:

https://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l...s/00000003.jpg

And some rebels - not sure if they're being surreal or ironic :laugh4:

https://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l...s/00000005.jpg

Are the different panels for anything? (Muslim, Polish, Western, etc.)

It doesn't affect the gameplay in any way, but gives the mod more unique character - it is not MTW anymore this way.



OK.

I think I can say that the unit roster for all present and future factions (except Iroquis, Mali, Ethopia, India all for MTW2) is over I have added the final units in the MTW VI edition of the mod.

Danish guards - Den Kongelige Livgarde

and Dutch marines - Regiment de Marine - one of few units able to land and win on English soil.


I am also thinking about Tuaregs - Sahara desert raiders but this is the last unit which might be added.


This way PMTW 2.0 will not add more units except in historical battles where it is acceptable to use certain famous squadrons/regiments.

Regards Cegorach:book:

What do the Polish titles mean?

I have worked out some of them...

All right here is the translation of all present and future ones.

court titles - the officials of the Royal Court had rather small influence, they were a sort of king's clerks.

Marszalek Nadworny Koronny - Crown Court Marshall

Marszalek Nadworny Litewski - Lithuanian Court Marshall


state titles - Rzeczpospolita was federation and republic that is why there are 2 titles of each kind. Noone was allowed to have one of these titles and a military one at the same time as well as 2 of those of course.

Marszalek Wielki Litewski - Lithuanian Grand Marshall

Marszalek Wielki Koronny - Crown Grand Marshall

Kanclerz Wielki Litewski - Lithuanian Grand Chancellor

Kanclerz Wielki Koronny - Crown Grand Chancellor - one of the most powerful men in the country


Prymas i Interrex Polski - Primate and Interrex of Poland - Interrex was the person in theory replacing the King after he died and a new one wasn't elected yet. The fact that the person was the catholic Church leader in Poland was a great victory of counterreformation faction. Protestants favoured Marszalek Sejmu, but they failed.


Marszalek Sejmu - Marshall of the Sejm ( speaker of the parliament of Poland)


military titles - field Hetmen are junior commanders of both armies ( as federation had two armies), Grand ones were the main commanders unless the King was present, but they still controlled the army to large degree to stop any possible coup planned by a monarch limiting his power.
When one grand hetman was present only he commanded the army, even if it wasn't from his part of the federation. They were also responsible for judging during wartime courts.

Hetman Polny Koronny - Crown Field Hetman

Hetman Polny Litewski - Lithuanian Field Hetman

Hetman Wielki Koronny - Crown Grand Hetman

Hetman Wielki Litewski - Lithuanian Grand Hetman

(NEW) Regimentarz Wojska JKM - Regiment commander of His Royal Majesty - temporary title given by the King or the Sejm, after 1648 it was used often by Jan Kazimierz who tried to impose his will over the army with mixed results from right and justified choices ( Stefan Czarniecki and Jerzy Lubomirski) to terrible ones ( Pilawce and Kamieniec Podolski cases).

Starszy nad armata - Elder over the artillery ( commander of the artillery) - responsible for maintaining, organising and commanding the artillery replaced by the general after 1648.

Hetman Kozacki - Cossacks' Hetman
Cossacks from Ukraine were uder the command of their Hetman nominated either by the King and Sejm or accepted b these. This particular title represents the idea of the Hadziacz Union - 3rd equal part of the Republic with its own structure, army, schools, Sejmiki local parliaments and nobility much like Lithuanian Grand Duchy in the Commonwealth.

(NEW) General artylerii - General of the artillery


non existent in reality, but probable

Wojewoda Balkanow - Voivode of the Balcans
In 1600 it was proposed to attach Moldavia to the union as a new voivodaship (district), same idea was repeated after 1683 as requested by the pro-Polish faction in Moldavia, something similar was also proposed regarding Transylvania and Wallachia several times.

Pierwszy Senator Rzeczpospolitej - First Senator of the Commonwealth (or rather of the Republic)
In 1525 the Teutonic Order was finally crushed and the Duke of Prussia became Polish vassal. It was proposed to fully annex the country into the Commonwealth ( with huge support in Prussia itself, even the duke was in favour of this) with its duke becoming the 1st senator of the Sejm. Similar agreemens were created regarding Livonia and even Pomerania, but were either never implemented or something else was decided.



Cegorach:book: