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so those poor working class whites don't actually have a problem, they are just told they do by tabloids?
nice, the common man doesn't sound like he's responsible enough to be allowed a vote, maybe the electoral franchise should be retracted back to the property owning classes again.
Standard (conditioned) response.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caravel
Well look back through this forum for a few months and see how many British tabloid stories have been posted as topics about immigrants or the threat to Britians culture by the current politicians , then see how many of those scare stories turn out to be bollox and you might get a fair gauge of the crap people are told and believe is true .Quote:
so those poor working class whites don't actually have a problem, they are just told they do by tabloids?
But I for one really like the BNP , I think their policy of making Ireland part of Britain is so much better than their old policy of deporting all the Irish :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
Lol
I found 5 people in the small village near Nottingham where I lived for a year. 1 of em living very close.
Its a bit puzzling because the place was 99,5% white english and the closest thing to racial tension was that the 'native' english polulation highly disliked the 'foreign' english population that moved from Newcastle in the 70's to work on the coal mine.
Its a place with no kebab takeaways, no mosques, no ethnic shops etc etc, and almost no non-english non-whites. However it is the roughest most unhospitable place I ever found in the whole of England and I ve lived in many places. Crime rates are through the roof, vandalism by underage youths is a constant occurence, 10 year olds boozing everywhere, old people having their glass panels smashed all the time etc etc. All in all not the place that you would want to live.
I would have thought that people who live in an almost 'all local' environments and can see that they are waaaayyy below average in living standards despite the fact that no foreigners 'steal their jobs', 'cause crime' 'mess the place up' or ' destroy the neighbourhood' should not really be inclined to join the BNP...but obviously this is not the case.
...Unless Jordies are to be kicked out of the country too under the BNP agenda :beam:
Not a single one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
immigrants, illegal immigrants is a problem if tribesmen thinks it isn't then he must be mad, in the area i live in (no offense meant) it's spot the white man if you can kind of thing...... which i usually fail in doing :inquisitive:
lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aries777777
Without even botheringto debate the dodgy thinking that must be held behind such statements, I will just say this:
So what?
The colour of one's skin has nothing to do with being illegal or not. Many non whites are British and proud of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aries777777
I am against illegal immigration - irrigardless of where the person is from; I am for economic legal immigration.
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Dress up like an orthodox jew and see how far you will get, I give you about 5 minutes before you are attacked.Quote:
Originally Posted by JAG
but its not about us, its about poor working class white people who live in place like preston, and they are the ones turning to the BNP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
Why are you telling me this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
what is this SKA?Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly
Some recent statements are closing rapidly on the line that separates racism from opinion.
Please review posts very carefully before clicking the submit button - with the forum rules in mind.
Thank you kindly.
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Rasforos , that sounds just like Hungerford but with a coal mine:2thumbsup:
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posted by Aries777777
I know you don't get it Frag , but no matter how often you repeatedly post the same crazy news stories it doesn't make them true . However when you repeatedly do it even after it has been shown that the stories you use again and again are untrue it does suggest that if you were in Britian you would be buying tickets for the patriotic red white and blue festival and dancing along to the cultured sounds of Avalon with all the other .Quote:
Not a single one?
Ooooo I don't know . perhaps its a example of how British fascists are and always have been idiots who are always looking for someone to blame and coming up with idiotic policies . In the development of this current party they have so far blamed Jews ,catholics , muslims , irish , west indians , asians , africans , arabs , romanians , polish .....the FRENCH for all Britains problems:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4: they are a bunch of ********* and their supporters are of the same flavour.Quote:
Why are you telling me this?
Now no one will deny that countries have problems , but when peoples answers to problems consist of lies hate and ignorance they should be treated with the contempt that they merit .
But like I say I love the BNP , their publications and forums give me more laughs than even fragony does .
The problem with groups such as the BNP will continue so long as people are disillusioned with the mainstream parties.
My grandmother, while not BNP member or voter, sympathises with some of their views on immigration, while of course not supporting any outright racism. She's not a murderous neo-Nazi skinhead that wants all of x nationality to 'go home', just an average pensioner with (admittedly somewhat ignorant) concerns over the affects immigration will have on the UK and its economy.
No matter how despicable much of their membership is, so long as the rest of society continues to make unfair generalisations and persecute their members, the BNP will only recieve sympathy from the average poor white person.
I know you don't get it Frag , but no matter how often you repeatedly post the same crazy news stories it doesn't make them true .
But Tribes when you say it's bollocks it doesn't just become it, kids do get detention because they have reservations about kneeling down and praying to allah. In Oxford they actually have winterorwhatever lights. And people actually get 3 years in prison because they have been playing with the idea of torching a mosque.
while it is lovely to know what you think, as always, it just seemed to have no relevance as a response to my post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
When I was at school I got detentions for arguing with the Religious Studies teacher. He was a christian and I'm agnostic. I would not believe that the bible was a historical text, and basically he did. He was descriminating on religious grounds. He should be sacked, along with all other christians.
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That undersells the average poor white person who knows very well the BNP is not an answer, but otherwise there is truth in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr
I'm not sure the BNP and the anti-BNP aren't as bad as each other. I've come across the BNP in various by elections and typically they are deluded pensioners. They generally get about 20 votes max. You do very much have the feeling that if they felt a bit more listened to they would still be voting labour (my experience is the far right is anything but). And there is a certain irony in the hateful scary BNP now getting anonymous threatening calls from people saying they are going to come and murder them. Yeah, THAT's the way we show these fascist pensioners what parliamentary democracy means.
I mean, really, who cares. We had a BNP candidate in an election in Hampstead* recently. Hampstead for heaven's sake. What was he going to do? Not get elected and that's a fact. But instead of ignore him, along come the Anti-Nazi league. I've got nothing against the ANL lads I saw, or against opposing the BNP, but lets be honest, this isn't about resisting a real political threat, its about hanging around with your mates in the hope of some pagga.
Meh. A plague on both their houses.
*Posh and significantly Jewish part of London, for non-Londoners. Not exactly prime territory for Stormfront
But really what's it to you why someone dislikes someone, and most of all what's it to the government.
Absolutely nothing, aslong as they are not in a position to abuse thier authority because of thier irrational hatred...
It's a party that works within the boundaries of the system you can't just 'mold' the system into a friendlist.
I haven't once said about banning the bnp or any other such nonsense...
Think of it, I hold a deep contempt for socialist and green party's, both are harmfull for our society, I really really dislike them.
Just as i hold a deep comtempt for partys such as UKIP, which have immigration and patriotism policys similar to BNP but they are not racists... so are welcome to positions of power...
That would be you and JAG you guys freak me out I simply can't believe how you can't see what road you are taking.
I simply can't believe you think we should allow racists to be police officers, i for one do not support hiring police officers who think some ethnic groups are somehow lesser people... its a recipe for racist policing...
so those poor working class whites don't actually have a problem, they are just told they do by tabloids?
Sure there are problems for working class whites... and then theres the daily mail with thier immigrant hating storys... the two are a bad combanation...
nice, the common man doesn't sound like he's responsible enough to be allowed a vote,
hmm, must have missed that comment, can't remember us talking about banning people from voting..
what is this SKA?
A hypothetical political party that should not have members in certain jobs like a teacher... or a police officer... because even though an individual member hasn't commited a crime he has a mindset dangerous to children, like a racist has a mindset dangerous to minoritys...
When I was at school I got detentions for arguing with the Religious Studies teacher. He was a christian and I'm agnostic. I would not believe that the bible was a historical text, and basically he did. He was descriminating on religious grounds. He should be sacked, along with all other christians.
well that was a nice story... shall we get back to the bnp now ?
She's not a murderous neo-Nazi skinhead that wants all of x nationality to 'go home', just an average pensioner with (admittedly somewhat ignorant) concerns over the affects immigration will have on the UK and its economy.
The primary reason to vote bnp is ignorance (no offence to your nan) why doesn't she just vote UKIP instead ?
No matter how despicable much of their membership is, so long as the rest of society continues to make unfair generalisations and persecute their members, the BNP will only recieve sympathy from the average poor white person.
Calling BNP racists is no different from calling the tory's conservative (as in idealogically rather than because its the party name) i think banning thier members from certain powerful positions is nessecary to avoid discrimination against minoritys, the effects of such a move will be negliable in voting terms, people aren't going to go out and vote bnp on the basis that bnp members cannot be coppers, some voters that were already very close to becoming bnp supporters may sympathise and support them because of this
but as far as im concerned removing police officers who believe minoritys are lesser people is worth handing over 1 or 2 votes that were already sympthetic to the bnp, no intelligent white person is going to see this move and think ill vote bnp when before they didn't even consider it...
immigrants, illegal immigrants is a problem if tribesmen thinks it isn't then he must be mad, in the area i live in (no offense meant) it's spot the white man if you can kind of thing...... which i usually fail in doing
Let me just say how nice it is to have a bnp supporter here so he can enlighten the forum members on the bnp mindset... keep going your making my arguments for me far better than i could do...
Not a single one?
Ohh please the daily mail is chock a block full of crap!
So, religious descrimination is fine, but ethnic discrimination isn't. If it helps, he was a white person as well, so it's OK to have a go. Sadly I'm also white so I understand that this doesn't fit the usual upset.
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ok fine you want my opinion on your little story...
Technically wouldn't the bible actually be an historic text, maybe not in our opinion an accurate one but still historic ?
you shouldn't get a detention for doubting the accuracy of the bible
i was a kid not long back and i remember using various methods to avoid work, it would depend on whether you were after an intellectual discourse or whether you were just trying to stir up touble, abuse the teacher or just generally trying to mess around..
If you had done nothing but question the accuracy of the bible then a detention is not deserved, aslong as this didn't extend to disturbing yours and others education, infact im sure most teachers would have been happy to debate this point during a lunch break or something rather than in the middle of a lesson...
it doesn't matter what colour either of you are, it was racist officers i was advocating removing... not white ones...
So, no debate in lessons? Better learn when you're not discussing things...
All BNP members are definitely racists? No evidence besides a name on a list required?
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3 classics thanks Frags , the first is a story that originated in the BNP newspaper and wasn't actually true , the second is a complete non story from the mail and the third is that fellow who got caught red handed yet you claimed is innocent and the only reason he was convicted in court is because he wasn't a muslim .Quote:
But Tribes when you say it's bollocks it doesn't just become it, kids do get detention because they have reservations about kneeling down and praying to allah. In Oxford they actually have winterorwhatever lights. And people actually get 3 years in prison because they have been playing with the idea of torching a mosque.
Would you like a ladder to get you out of the hole you always dig yourself into ?
But it is EA, see Mosley was right the Jews are taking over , if you don't stop them in Hampstead they will spread to Hampshire then the rest of country and then the world .:2thumbsup:Quote:
*Posh and significantly Jewish part of London, for non-Londoners. Not exactly prime territory for Stormfront
So, no debate in lessons? Better learn when you're not discussing things...
When i was a kid i didn't really want to learn, winding up the teachers was my fun in school, and i would usually try to use some kind of intellectual argument as cover, if some kid is doing that then he should be punished, if a teacher is trying to teach something but one kid just wants to have a debate that isn't really related to the work then he should do it outside of class time so the other kids aren't disturbed
If it is to do with the work you are doing and a debate would be a good classroom activity then by all means go for it...
Im imagining a situation where the teachers is trying to read from the bible or take some message from a verse and your there just trying to annoy him saying the bible isn't historically accurate
All BNP members are definitely racists?
I couldn't say 100% are a 100% racist with complete certainty, though i would suspect such, UKIP is there as a party for the non racists with crazy policys, bnp is there as the racist party with crazy policys, thus if you want crazy policys you vote UKIP, if you want racists with cray policys you vote BNP...
No evidence besides a name on a list required?
As mentioned with the contracts police have to sign, no.
Did you just blame british atheism on muslim immigration? :dizzy2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
I am sorry you perceived it as an insult, that was not my intention.Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly
so having a certain username is your defense in saying 'don't listen to him' :inquisitive: how patheticQuote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
ROFL'd at thatQuote:
She's not a murderous neo-Nazi skinhead that wants all of x nationality to 'go home'
??? clearly that isn't the case....Quote:
Did you just blame british atheism on muslim immigration?
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so having a certain username is your defense in saying 'don't listen to him' how pathetic
Anyone?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good
Classics indeed, the first isn't bollox, the second isn't bollox, and the third isn't, guess what bollox! No matter how much you want them to be. We have been on this road bollox ain't the bloody mary it cannot be summoned it doesn't just appear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman