Mafia Gear Solid: Incredibly Poorly Reenacted [Concluded]

All of the following info is public knowledge, I am not revealing anything learned as Mantis.

According to MGS story the FoxDie virus. In the video game Hunter injects it into Solid Snake, and he spreads it all over the compound, killing off most of the Foxhound gang. I bet that's what killed ATPG. Her brother is Grey Fox (cyborg Ninja) who is clearly working with Snake.

cant believe my own brother killed me :bigcry:

What makes you think grey fox is working with Snake and not individually?

Edit: oops.. if they are working separately we dont have to get a correct lynch today as they could target each other...:wall:

I strongly urge a certain living player to reveal everything we know.

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That's a large jump in kills...

Now Snake is killing people as well as Gray Fox, and we have the FOXDIE virus to worry about, too. I wonder how, exactly, that works.

Vote: Tratorix

You've been too quiet. Who are you?

Can I just comment on how bad things are looking...:sweatdrop:

I am thinking we should do a Mass reveal...who's up for it???:beam:

@ ATPG - going by your edited claims... there are 2 confirmed innocents in the group of 6 alive. How is that alone going to help us nail greyfox and Snake?


i think we should just lynch Chaotix and Andres...:clown:

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Originally Posted by atheotes

@ ATPG - going by your edited claims... there are 2 confirmed innocents in the group of 6 alive. How is that alone going to help us nail greyfox and Snake?

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Well, it might prevent us from lynching one of them. I'd say that's a fair amount of help. That means you've got a 50/50 shot of hitting the guilty parties. Seems like a good idea.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Well, it might prevent us from lynching one of them. I'd say that's a fair amount of help. That means you've got a 50/50 shot of hitting the guilty parties. Seems like a good idea.

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following your own reasoning from mafia mongolica (i agree with it) - revealing would mean they get killed in the night... :juggle2:

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Originally Posted by atheotes

following your own reasoning from mafia mongolica (i agree with it) - revealing would mean they get killed in the night... :juggle2:

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The host even said that this would be the last round if we lynched incorrectly. I feel that the info needs to be revealed now, before the end of the game.


Quoth the Split Pea:

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As the remaining 6 gathered around, they realized time was short, and if they didn't vote the correct person today, they would lose for sure. The lives of a handful of people swayed in the breeze.

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i am just thinking about what will happen after we get a correct lynch today...
revealing or no revealing, it is only a % chance of getting the killer right...
i think it is better to hold off for now and reveal only if one of the confirmed innocents get targeted... and they can work together anyways... :shrug:

I am going to state this now to end the confusion. There are two lynches that will continue the game.

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It seems the above part is unclear, at least to me. There is no lynch today that will outright make the town lose, but the night actions of groups with them will continue, regardless of who is lynched. I hope you can see what I mean because I don't really know how to explain it without giving anything away.

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If anyone besides one of these two people is lynched, the town will likely lose. I say likely because I can't account for night actions following the lynch.

The question is, do you want to stake your win on percentages and night actions?

Ball is in your court town, choose very wisely :bow:

Now I've gone and killed the entire discussion! D:

What are these edited claims? Was it a post mortem reveal :inquisitive:

Are you sad because you missed out on information..?

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So, somebody said the bad guys are in this game the good guys, concluding that AVSM was a good guy in this game. He told us to lynch Caius, who was Johnny Sasaki? According to Wiki, Johnnny Sasaki is a joke character.

How did lynching a joke character help the town? Does this mean that bad guy in game =/= necessarily good guy in this mafia game?

Does that make sense :dizzy2:

Tratorix and johnhughtom seem WoG'bait to me.

Vote : Death is yonder

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Originally Posted by Death is yonder

Are you sad because you missed out on information..?

:inquisitive:

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Yes.

Town needs all the information it can gets, since we can't afford mistakes in this round.

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Originally Posted by Andres

So, somebody said the bad guys are in this game the good guys, concluding that AVSM was a good guy in this game. He told us to lynch Caius, who was Johnny Sasaki? According to Wiki, Johnnny Sasaki is a joke character.

How did lynching a joke character help the town? Does this mean that bad guy in game =/= necessarily good guy in this mafia game?

Does that make sense :dizzy2:

Tratorix and johnhughtom seem WoG'bait to me.

Vote : Death is yonder

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Basically, solid snake and his friends are the mafia, and fox hound is the town.

Now, overextended your hand have you?

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How did lynching a joke character help the town?

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Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

"Gee! I've never guarded the inside of a jail cell before!"

There was a knock at the door, and Caius readied his FAMAS and answered it with an authoritative, "Who's there?"

A loud smack was heard from the other side of the door, much like a hand smacking it's owner in the face. "I told you he wasn't just going to come out for us! He's playing mind games now, the dirty snake." Ocelot said to someone else on his side

"You idiots," Mantis said, "I'll get him..."

The door exploded open and a very powerful force compelled Caius to lie down and sleep.


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Everything was white and hazy, and Caius couldn't move his limbs, he felt like he was lying down on a table. "Oh no..." he wondered, "Did I get drunk at one of the guard parties again? Oh I hope I didn't embarrass myself..." but something interrupted his train of thought, it was a bright white light and two shadowy figures.


"No more accidents..." he heard a voice... liquid? "I don't want you killing him like you killed the DARPA chief.... Well no actually what you did to the DARPA chief was pretty cool, but could you make it a bit more painful?"

"Yes boss," he heard... ocelot reply? "I'll actually will the electricity surging through his body to hurt more just because you asked me to... Because that is definitely possible.."

"Good, we'll be watching through the glass, behind me." Caius heard a door open, and close. Then he felt a hand striking his face.


"Wake up." Ocelot said in a grim voice.


Caius was now groggy, but awake. He heard a whirring as the table he was on tilted forward, before him Caius saw the town behind a glass window, and Ocelot to his right. In the upper right hand corner he saw two... bars? A Greenish one and a blueish one... What were those?


He yawned loudly, it echoed in the small cold room.

"Sleep well?" Ocelot said sarcastically.

"Well actually yeah, this big table thing is pretty comfortable,"

"Glad to hear it," Ocelot said back.

"Where.... where are my clothes?" Caius said, looking down he realized he was naked, save for a pair of underpants.

"Don't worry... it's all here, not that you'll be needing it..." Ocelot smirked and laughed.

"What's that supposed to mean?!" Caius said, nervously.


"We're going to play a game snake... and we'll find out what kind of man you really are..." Ocelot said, stepping behind a large console.

He continued, "When the pain becomes too great to bear... just give up, but if you do your life is mine. Well... if you don't I'm going to kill you anyway, just saying..."



Ocelot then cleared his throat, "Press the circle button repeatedly to regain your strength. When you've had enough press the Select button to submit. When your life reaches zero, the game is over. There are no continues my friend..."

Ocelot cracked his knuckles, "I'm going to run a high voltage electric current through your body, if it's just for a short time it won't kill you."

"Okay..." Ocelot pressed a button, "Let's get started."


Caius saw the two bars on his right again. The green one read.... Johnny.... Sasaki? His name?! Was this the life bar ocelot mentioned? It wasn't very long....

The other one read.... time? The time he would be shocked? Holy that bar is long! He turned to his left and saw a large box... He spoke what he saw... "Circle..... restore life... Select.... submit? What the heck is this?! Why are you doing this to m-"

but he was quickly cut off by a jolt of electricity streaming through his body, Johnny saw his lifebar fall but he had no idea how to press circle. It seemed his fate was sealed.

The last thing he thought was, "Why didn't anyone try to help me?"

As you can see, he is clearly said to be Solid Snake. Why would he be confused about his own "name" 'Johnny Sasaki'? Additionally, why would he wonder why didn't anyone help him is obviously because he has friends, namely, the mafia.

So, Caius was called "a snake" in the write-up, but his name was Johnny. How does that prove he was in the league with snake?

Sure, it could be a clue, but I don't think our host would give such obvious clues. I think it's "snake" as an insult; not as a clue. The game would be too easy with such obvious clues. Besides, I've hosted some games where everybody was busy looking for clues in my write-ups and I think that about one 1 on 10 of the so-called clues they found was a real one.

I don't think Caius was mafia.

So no, I didn't "overextend" my hand; I just don't read too much in hosts's write-ups.

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Originally Posted by DIY

Are you sad because you missed out on information..?

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What's wrong with wanting information?

He is a joke character in the First game:brood: Vote:DIY

I know in MGS4 he is a bit more "Heroic" but in the first one, he is more a nuisance for Snake...:inquisitive:

Better give me a good reason why you think a "joke" character would be a Mafia character:inquisitive:

Also, all roles of the dead have been revealed. If you question Caius being Johnny, then you have to question all the others.

I believe it's obvious that Caius was an innocent.

So, I'm getting voted just for being curious about my doubts?

It was stated that one of those who voted Beskar was Solid Snake, 3 out of four of them are dead, naturally I'm curious aren't I?!

You all want information??!

http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/csZ79QyvWmaCx

Come and get some. :stare:

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I strongly urge a certain living player to reveal everything we know.

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I think you have the answer to that already.

The edited post was, IIRC, indication that I am aware of two innocents and I wanted to reveal who they were. But I remembered that I can't reveal that so I am just encouraging the reveal, a LOT.

edit: There we go.

PLEASE EXPLAIN to those who haven't read the quicktopic who you are and who got roleblocked already, DIY

AVSM is Vulcan Raven
ATPG is Liquid Snake
Yaro is Psycho Mantis
I am Revolver Ocelot

We are the pro town group in this game, foxhound is the town.

Yaropolk could either role block or investigate, believing the role block to be more critically important, he role blocked Whiteeyes.

Basically, with this reveal, towns chances of victory has increased slightly, we now have a third of the living confirmed innocent.

Tratorix
Andres
Chaotix
johnhughthom

The mafia is someone out of these people.

Unvote:DIY ok, that's good...:yes:

But who is the top suspect??

Basically, there really wasn't much information, but a third of the live in the clear should be pretty good.

Its all... pretty uncertain. Guesswork and gut feelings.

Just keep in mind, there is ZERO chance of victory if the townies don't reach a consensus.

You all pretty much have to vote the same way, given the likelihood of 2 mafia remaining and only 4 of you. If the townies are divided 2-2 then the mafia can simply bandwagon whoever is not guilty or add 2 votes to an innocent. If the townies are divided 3-1 then the mafia can tie it up, 3-3.

All 4 townies need to make a unanimous decision and hope it is the correct one. Perhaps one of you innocent ones should random.org the remaining list of suspects and hope for the best?

So out of the people on this list
Tratorix
Andres
Chaotix
johnhughthom

How many are Mafia?:juggle2:

We know that we need, two lynches to win....it could all end badly if we pick the wrong one:yes:

I am pretty tired to go back into the thread and check everyone's behavior:no:

How long till this round ends?? (I want to check when I am more awake)

Wait a minute. How are those "confirmed innocent"?

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Originally Posted by Mantis

Dude, we're the mafia.

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:inquisitive:

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Originally Posted by DIY in quicktopic

Unfortunately, I only have a power that allows me to kill once.

I'm also advised to use it on the right person.

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Perfect cover for a mafioso, me thinks.

There's no evidence in that quicktopic :shrug:

As for my role, not allowed to quote, so I'll describe:

I'm an NBC Trooper of the Genome Army.

I've chosen to be a soldier and joined the army at 18. I joined because it would help with my studies (college) and because I wanted to see the world.

I signed up for the gene therapy; Foxhound convinced me.

I'm on the side of the townies and I now have the genes of Big Boss.

- I'm going to die, unless I find a cure;
- line of sight and hearing are increased by the genes;

I need to find snake and other threats and I need to survive.

Vote:Andres

Stop feigning ignorance, the host himself confirmed it in quicktopic.

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Sorry if I made this unclear, 3 hours of writing role PMs tends to boggle me, you guys are the town.

Foxhound and their genome army = town

Anyone trying to stop the insurrection = mafia

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:daisy: I messed up Mantis' PM. I forgot to say you vote as usual >_<

You guys are town and you get a vote per day as the usual parameters.

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PM quoting is not allowed.

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Unfortunately, sad. :no:

[Edited quote - GH]