Alien vs Yakuza [Concluded]

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Nah, not with Beskar around. Go check and you'll see. People don't realize it, but Beskar talks almost as much as me.

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Well I already said I didn't expect as much activity seeing as your doing a massive battle royale, I guess I'm just picking at straws.

@Split:

True, the vote must be right this time, problem is I don't know who the right person is to vote for, which makes my vote awkward.....

Well, right now there's 3 types of votes going around.

1. Those townies who are basing their arguments on past logic and beliefs, not necessarily right but helpful.
2. Random guessing townies, helpful as well because 1. isn't always right.
3. Mafia voting for people they KNOW are innocent.

Sadly we don't know who is innocent not as a collective majority.


Anyway, I applaud your random voting on some level, and on another I detest it, because we've come so far and we still know squat :/

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Originally Posted by spL1tp3r50naL1ty

Well, right now there's 3 types of votes going around.

1. Those townies who are basing their arguments on past logic and beliefs, not necessarily right but helpful.
2. Random guessing townies, helpful as well because 1. isn't always right.
3. Mafia voting for people they KNOW are innocent.

Sadly we don't know who is innocent not as a collective majority.


Anyway, I applaud your random voting on some level, and on another I detest it, because we've come so far and we still know squat :/

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Well when Death is Yonder voted for ATPG straight after atheotes did that reminded me of you number 3. Mafia voting for people (a person) they KNOW are innocent, but DiY changed his vote and let AVSM take over, plus nothing else about him seems suspicious.

I would go with option 1, pick the lurker and join the bandwagon, but seeing as I'm not that certain either way I don't want to be responsible for AVSM's lynching if he is innocent, which is why I'm keeping my options open, by voting for say AVSM, a bigger suspect? Its almost like I'm damning any other vote as he will have the majority.

It sounds stupid, I guess I just like leaving that job to someone else, so I can critize them for it next round :laugh4: :balloon2:

Going after the same person makes as much sense as going after anyone else. It's all random.

But if we all picked one person from the start of the game and voted them, it'd accomplish nothing.

But that's an extreme, as would be just bandwaggoning each person as they came alone.

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Originally Posted by A Very Super Market

Going after the same person makes as much sense as going after anyone else. It's all random.

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So do you want me to vote for you? :thinking:

Despite Beefy saying mafia have a cover role, perhaps now would be a good time to reveal our pm's? It could be useful :balloon2:

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Originally Posted by spL1tp3r50naL1ty

But if we all picked one person from the start of the game and voted them, it'd accomplish nothing.

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That's not true, it worked for me in Red Phoenix. I picked Khaan and voted him until he died or I got murdered or lynched. He died and he was mafia.

That works just as well as random voting. Less susceptible to being persuaded, too.

Pika piii

Why would you be so apprehensive not to vote me? Either you are mafia trying to look innocent, or there is little argument for my lynch.

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Originally Posted by A Very Super Market

Why would you be so apprehensive not to vote me? Either you are mafia trying to look innocent, or there is little argument for my lynch.

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Which is it, in your opinion?

No dirt on you or Split. I'm very tempted to vote you, but atheotes is still more likely.

No dirt taken :D

If the town wants me to prove myself so be it :bow:.

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Originally Posted by A Very Super Market

No dirt on you or Split. I'm very tempted to vote you, but atheotes is still more likely.

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follow your instincts :bow:

This may be the first game ever that's still in sign-ups when it's over.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

This may be the first game ever that's still in sign-ups when it's over.

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Mods aren't paying much attention lol :balloon2:

atheotes IS the Mafia.

Seriously, lynch him already.

Almost most likely post from me, as I am not going to ghost, but I have said it enough times. If he wins this, I am going give all the townies a red-mark of utter failure for completely ignoring what I have been saying.

He hasn't even contributed to the game, and as I said earlier, he is now lurking again to "stay out of the firefight". No Mafia would have killed me, except for atheotes, as I was gathering support and loud for his lynch. If I was alive, he would be having the most votes right now. This is why I got night killed.

The Mafia would have kept us both alive, if we were innocent, simply because that is the next two lynches lined up, as they kill any others without fail.

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Originally Posted by Beskar

atheotes IS the Mafia.

Seriously, lynch him already.

Almost most likely post from me, as I am not going to ghost, but I have said it enough times. If he wins this, I am going give all the townies a red-mark of utter failure for completely ignoring what I have been saying.

He hasn't even contributed to the game, and as I said earlier, he is now lurking again to "stay out of the firefight". No Mafia would have killed me, except for atheotes, as I was gathering support and loud for his lynch. If I was alive, he would be having the most votes right now. This is why I got night killed.

The Mafia would have kept us both alive, if we were innocent, simply because that is the next two lynches lined up, as they kill any others without fail.

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This seems entirely logical. :yes: I admit I was wrong about Beskar, and you should probably listen to him.

Beskar died, was townie, he deserves to be heard.

I hope you are right, Beskar. Like I said, he's the new Diamond Junk.

unvote, vote: atheotes

Unvote; AVSM
Vote: Atheotes

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He hasn't even contributed to the game, and as I said earlier, he is now lurking again to "stay out of the firefight". No Mafia would have killed me, except for atheotes, as I was gathering support and loud for his lynch. If I was alive, he would be having the most votes right now. This is why I got night killed.

The Mafia would have kept us both alive, if we were innocent, simply because that is the next two lynches lined up, as they kill any others without fail.

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Gah! I'll go back on my original reasoning then.

Atheotes seems to only be digressing about Beskar's reasons to vote him all game long.

Boy, am I sounding really indecisive :wall:

Well at least we have 4 votes. We had virtually no chance of lynching a mafia without it.

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Originally Posted by Beskar

atheotes IS the Mafia.

Seriously, lynch him already.

Almost most likely post from me, as I am not going to ghost, but I have said it enough times. If he wins this, I am going give all the townies a red-mark of utter failure for completely ignoring what I have been saying.

He hasn't even contributed to the game, and as I said earlier, he is now lurking again to "stay out of the firefight". No Mafia would have killed me, except for atheotes, as I was gathering support and loud for his lynch. If I was alive, he would be having the most votes right now. This is why I got night killed.

The Mafia would have kept us both alive, if we were innocent, simply because that is the next two lynches lined up, as they kill any others without fail.

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:laugh4: what will you do if you are wrong?

I failed as a townie...i should have removed myself from the game last turn. :wall:
At the end of the last day phase ATPG stated that he believed i was innocent. Any reason for me antagonize him? :gah: any reason i give can be brought down to WIFOM :sad:

for what its worth, right now, my top suspects are ATPG, followed by AVSM in some distance.

That's the whole reason why I am voting for you now. I have no idea why you are still voting for me, I seemed to be the only one sticking up for you, actually thinking things out, and you still want to lynch me. If you're townie, this is an utter breakdown of our ability to work as a team. If you're mafia, you WIFOM'ed one too many times for my taste.

i kept my vote on you because i feel you know Beskar well enough and killing him would guarantee a lynch target. But i just realized that i have to agree with one of Beskar's points. if he had not been killed he would still be voting for me and causing enough distraction for mafia to escape. Following my lynch and subsequent proof Beskar would become the top lynch target and mafia would win that game at the point. Again this can be discredited as WIFOM, but that would be the most logical thing to do.
so now i leaning more towards someone who has not followed the game very closely.
unvote, vote:AVSM

alright i made another mistake... i thought there were 7 people alive (the writeup says 7/12 alive)... but it is actually six... the mafia will win if we fail to lynch mafia today.
So i am keeping my vote on ATPG because i feel he knows Beskar well enough and killing him would guarantee a lynch target.

Tick tock, the round is over, assuming 24 hours ago Beefy posted the write up and he wants it to end in 24 hours.

Long case, I just re-read and figured something that I wish I had seen earlier :wall:

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This round, voted Atheotes because he seemed like instead of moving on and carrying on discussion like a good townie, he consistently brought the topic back to Beskar, who he knew consistently gunned for him, and would probably never cease once he started, and he took advantage of it. This though, is not the main point, until this round, I didn't really suspect Atheotes or TM, but since I'm in the opinion that Atheotes is the mafia, it makes lots of sense that TM is too in retrospect, and this round, TM's been acting quite scummy, a drastic change in behavior.

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Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury

Vote:Beskar

You jumped onto the bandwagon, besides if he is always mafia then maybe its his time to be town. :balloon2:

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You know Beskar, he guns for Atheotes anyway, why so overprotective? Looked to me in retrospect now like you were looking for an easy target, alongside Atheotes.

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Originally Posted by Beskar

vote: atheotes

FoS: Thermal Mercury

I bet it is those two. Why else did Thermal jump to atheotes' defense?

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Loath am I to admit it, Beskar actually probably is right here. After all the times, it makes sense this game.

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Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury

Blame me? I voted for you because your reasoning was AWFUL and you blatently BANDWAGONED Athrotes, it isn't our fault Beskar, you sly man. Your trying to detract attention from yourself by blaming us, yet just last round you did a scummy vote to save your own skin, and killed a townie in the process, which is much more scummy than anything I've done.

Definitely voting for you again. :balloon2:


Vote: Beskar

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Sounds like a mafia buddy in panic mode, underlined sections are the eyebrow raising ones. A few votes is hardly a bandwagon, a few drops in a puddle. Sounds a bit desperate to discredit Beskar because you know he will gun for Atheotes all game long.

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Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury

You want my answers so make sure to read this




I like the way you start your post by basically saying 'I'm a townie' Which usually means 'I'm not a townie'

Now then...lets look to your rule book, maybe you don't 'officially' qualify as a bandwagonner but you followed the persons vote in front of you mindlessly, that is bandwagonning behavior at the very least. Whether your little rule book says second or third to vote for someone makes it a bandwagon or not, your doing everything a bandwagoner would do, so stop playing fairly pointless games with what is and isn't a mafia game rule.

You vote for the same person the first person voted for about an hour after they vote. Which is piling the pressure, most townies spread there votes out, but by mounting his votes up you seriously increased athelotes chance of being lynched on no other logic than 'hes always mafia'. Using data from other games is poor logic and can result in a player losing interest in this game, if that is the only basis you vote for someone. Your vote was based on personal experience and our own silly grudges when it should have been a fresh slate! :whip:

I haven't been over protective of atheotes, you have been over-offensive to him, which is why I am defending him at all. This scummy mc sscummy comment is laughable, seeing as you have nothing on me other than defending a player that your harassing, you have nothing on me and no true reasons to believe I'm scummy, which is surely still an attempt on your part to detract attention from yourself. Maybe were both townies? either way going around saying whos who, when you blatantly have no clue, is ignorant in itself.

@Split: Townies aren't supposed to be afraid to die, Beskar didn't even bother to comment or say why he was voting centurion, but seemed more in a rush to vote for someone else before he got a majority vote himself. Perhaps, in his situation I may have protected myself over others if I know I'm innocent, but he didn't even seem bothered and was quick to place all the blame onto me & Athelotes, even though it was he that killed the townie, quite bluntly.

There isn't much else to say and whilst there isn't much evidence to go on in this game, I certainly don't see why I'm such a big suspect in comparison to Beskar, given that mostly everyone said they were going to vote for him this round anyway after his actions the day before. Furthermore, why beskar & me anyway? Why apply pressure just to us? No one is ruled out yet & so I fail why anyone else should feel there in a safer position just because they lurk most of the time.

As you can see I am putting effort into this game, if you wish to vote me out then fine, but I can't of tried harder to convince you of my actions. Furthermore whether you vote me out someone else or Athelotes it doesn't bother me an awful lot, go ahead and lynch atholates or me if you want to, that is no bluff because I am not his mafia partner and if you want to lynch we to prove that, then I am willing to die for you. Though I doubt Beskar is.

When I come on tomorrow I'll see how you respond, if it is still roughfully a draw, I will vote for myself as I will have failed to convince you who is the best lynch candidate

oh round ends soon, maybe not...

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Second paragraph, contradicting his previous post to discredit Beskar, :juggle2:

Fourth paragraph, the right thing to do would have been to just ignore, let it pass, and concentrate on the discussion properly.

5th Paragraph talking to Split, Townies are suppose to save themselves, no matter what, you always know that anyone else could be the mafia and that your innocent.

6th Paragraph, you aren't a big suspect, only Beskar considered you one, why are you overreacting? In hindsight, this only exemplifies itself more prominently in the later rounds.

7th Paragraph, tempting the WIFOM... :whip:

Last paragraph, very bad townie behavior, its not very helpful.

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Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury

Ok, I will openly admit that I put the words (that were since edited out) I am a townie, and I criticized Beskar for saying that :wall: (It's hard not to on rants)

I do assure you though, while it would annoy me, vote me out if you wish at least then I can help the players along, with you in the knowledge I'm innocent, although I'm not forcing you to vote for me, just suggesting you follow your instincts. :bow:

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vote: Atheotes

This is merely a gesture to show I in no way feel a need to protect atheotes, and it could at least prove whether Beskar's flawed theory that Atheotes is always mafia is correct or not.

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Why the self doubt? Sounds over self explanatory too, like a mafia trying not to be suspicious. Although admittedly I do this at times as a townie too :sweatdrop:

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Originally Posted by atheotes

hmm... looks like Beskar will keep voting for me till i get killed. i can save myself this round but he is just going to comeback and vote for me next round. :wall:
i am still contemplating on what to do... whether to self vote just to say "told you so" or behave like Beskar last round and save myself :juggle2:

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The thing that's making me suspect the both of you? This nagging feeling? You've been detracting discussion and instead of heading back and ignoring Beskar, you've drawn the attention to him and constantly try to play the sympathy card to make people try and vote him to get a free death out of him, so you don't have to kill him, although evidently later you killed him for the WIFOM and because this idea wasn't turning out to be fruitful.

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Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury

If I survive the night I don't know who I'm going to vote for, Beskar is an obivous option, but my instincts lead to Death is Yonder.... :inquisitive:

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Again, why with all the self doubt? You sound like a mafia trying to play a "scared townie" card.

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Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury

True, but I already said I was willing to die, if town did suspect me :bow:

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WIFOM, more and more. Not helping your case :wall:

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Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury

Why ATPG over say, me? I see some suspicious tactics creeping in, along with premature bandwagons (renamed since Beskar got his rule book out)

Vote: Death Is Yonder

Don't like how you voted and your reasoning, which is 'theres 7 players, 2 are mafia, atpg is probably one of them' with that logic, it could be any of us, so why him in particular?

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Why more WIFOM and the self pity cards? And the self contradiction at the end of the post? :wall:

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Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury

It may have been overblown, but under blown rarely gets noticed, and I did state in that post that I thought Beskar was probably townie, even though he was acting scummy....
I would vote for you but I don't want to completely overrun your chances incase you are innocent, as you were lurking and only stopped when you were voted for.


Death is Yonder doesn't scream scum to me anymore and is acting like many townies do.

I'm pleasantly surprised to see that I haven't been voted for yet :2thumbsup:

unvote
vote: Splitpersonality

You haven't been in the spotlight yet, while keeping the tally is helpful & trying to act like a fair townie (I.e keeping pressure on me & beskar last round) I have a feeling your intentions aren't so innocent after all, no one has suspected you yet, and to be completely honest, I'm suspicious of pretty much everyone equally, so I picked you because....

Sorry for the lack of reasoning, its a random vote, as much as I don't like making them. :bow:


Also
You are very busy ATPG & I don't expect much activity, you are giving more than enough activity given how busy you are. However you usually analyze behavior and rip players to shreds, instead you seem to be taking a back seat which isn't all that like you if I remember correctly... :whip:

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You seem like a mafia popping in to avoid being called a lurker, and then fading into the shadows, although prominently your around in times when Atheotes is on the line to the noose.

Trying to play the helpful townie trying to find more helpful townies, you said I was doing something scummy, being called a lurker then popping in, then you said I wasn't screaming scum to you anymore? :inquisitive:

Then you say your suspicious of pretty much everyone equally? That means nobody is suspicious? Stop digging your own hole, please :wall: Your not helping your own case :no:

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Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury

And for ATPG's convenience, my top suspects are:
Split
A Very Super Market
Death is Yonder
Atheotes
Askthepizzaguy


:laugh4:

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Even as mafia, one must endear oneself to several active townies who might go with you and save your behind, to supplement the voting power. :inquisitive:

I cautiously note that myself, Atheotes and ATPG are on the low of your list... maybe because we're more predictable? Or maybe because we believed Atheotes... :inquisitive:

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Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury

Well at this stage, voting me out could result in a mafia victory, sorry but I'm unable to shut up... :balloon2:

also ATPG, you may have more posts than me, but usually you have like 3 times the posts than the second person on the post bored.

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You dig your hole deeper and deeper, how deep do you want it to go... :thumbsdown:

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Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury

Well I already said I didn't expect as much activity seeing as your doing a massive battle royale, I guess I'm just picking at straws.

@Split:

True, the vote must be right this time, problem is I don't know who the right person is to vote for, which makes my vote awkward.....

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:inquisitive::inquisitive:

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Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury

Well when Death is Yonder voted for ATPG straight after atheotes did that reminded me of you number 3. Mafia voting for people (a person) they KNOW are innocent, but DiY changed his vote and let AVSM take over, plus nothing else about him seems suspicious.

I would go with option 1, pick the lurker and join the bandwagon, but seeing as I'm not that certain either way I don't want to be responsible for AVSM's lynching if he is innocent, which is why I'm keeping my options open, by voting for say AVSM, a bigger suspect? Its almost like I'm damning any other vote as he will have the majority.

It sounds stupid, I guess I just like leaving that job to someone else, so I can critize them for it next round :laugh4: :balloon2:

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Don't want to be involved in... controversy perhaps? Again... your posts really beg some looking into :inquisitive:

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Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury

So do you want me to vote for you? :thinking:

Despite Beefy saying mafia have a cover role, perhaps now would be a good time to reveal our pm's? It could be useful :balloon2:

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No self initiative, afraid to receive flak for bad decisions, indecisive mafia. :inquisitive:

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Why would you be so apprehensive not to vote me? Either you are mafia trying to look innocent, or there is little argument for my lynch.

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Posted by AVSM.

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Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury

Which is it, in your opinion?

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Response. Indeed, why? :inquisitive:

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Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury

follow your instincts :bow:

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Follow yours? :inquisitive:

In conclusion for those who really hated the long walls of quotes and texts, I think that TM is a nervous mafia, he seemed genuinely trying to aid in discussion for the first few rounds, but lately, he screams WIFOMing mafia and nervous mafia trying to save his buddy. I've noted that he's usually only active when Atheotes is being actively accused, and he's been very indecisive and going with the flow of the town.

The whole game, Atheotes generally stayed his part of the discussion centered on the injustice of it all when Beskar keeps metagaming him, so to speak.

TM on the other hand, tried to distance himself from Atheotes after the early rounds whereupon they were picked up on by Beskar. He sounds like the mafia who isn't willing to risk being called out on something, and letting others make their own choices before he follows.

Next round, we need to vote for ThermalMercury and seal the deal, of course this is assuming Atheotes is the mafia, which I think he is. If these two people aren't mafia, then they are very, very, bad townies. :whip:

At first he seemed fine, but upon closer investigation and re-reading, TM's post comes off to me as very scummy, and I think it would warrant a lynch. He has been spewing WIFOM all game long, perhaps its time to call his bluff.

Taking the risk of saying this even before Atheotes's lynch results come back, I think that Atheotes and Thermal are the mafia, and that next round we need to lynch TM.

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No matter who dies tonight, every townie SHOULD vote for Thermal Mercury.

I bow before Death is yonder's Wall Of Text.... :bow:

Pizza-wan has taught you well. You have controlled your fear. Now, release your anger. Only your HATRED can destroy me.

I will so laugh if it is TM and atheotes, since I called it with my second post. :laugh4:

Yes master, now, we shall duel ~:pimp:

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I have... all the power, in the world!!

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Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the dark side.

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Day 3 summery
Queen Beefy came back skipping. She was starting to enjoy her life on earth. Despite occasionally running into a yakuza, ready to take full swing at her being who she is... She never knew her new identity was hated so much, but meh.. She always enjoyed shopping and spending time in a nice cafe terrace with a river view.

Anyway, when she returned the crew has already decided who was to be lynched. One called Atheotes.

"atheotes.. Fair choice, never liked your new looks anyway." said the Queen, eagar to jump on the man.
"You too Queen Beefy?" said atheotes, bursting into tears. "Out of all people, I thought you would understand.. That I am a loyal soldier, just trying to do my mission!"

Queen took a look at her original body. Big head, and giant teeth. Long legs and arms, green sexy body and green blood running through her body. Then she took a look at atheotes

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"For some reason, you don't convince me atheotes.. Die. Just die now:whip:"

So with a sad looks, atheotes... Idiotic but a loyal alien who chose a alien as his new identity, took a big jump at the Queen, diving inside her mouth. Baltan Seijin was no more. atheotes was no more...

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Originally Posted by Beefy187

Greetings. You are Baltan Seijin
Alignment: Town
Goal: Eliminate the Yakuza

Originally from Ultra men Series

For more information on Baltan Seijin
Why you chose to be a villain. I don’t know. Why you chose to become an alien disguised as alien.. I don’t know. But in any case, you are Baltan Seijin. Arch enemy of Ultramen family, extremely strong alien from planet Baltan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb32d3xr2Us
On this youtube clip, you are the one dancing on the left hand side of the screen, second from the left, right on the right hand side from Ultramens point of view. I really didn’t know what else to write about him.. His strong alright. Fearsome claws and all. Rawr, fear me and stuff.

For some reason, you might be more popular then Ultramen himself. Ultramen is going downhill now days. But Baltan Seijin is well loved and respected from old fans. Good luck telling the Queen that though.. Your job is to search the city to scare the children’s and hopefully find the Yakuzas and lynch them.

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Alive 5/12
Split
A Very Super Market
Death is Yonder
Askthepizzaguy
Thermal Mercury



Killed 4/12
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Woad & Fangs
Stildawn
Beskar

Lynched 3/12
Centurion1
Sprig
Atheotes

Mafia... choose 2 players to kill and claim your victory

I am going to call ATPG and Splitpersonality.

Because I said something to ATPG about it being Split as the Mafia and the Mafia wouldn't kill me, unless it was atheotes. If I was alive, I wasn't going to vote for atheotes, but Splitpersonality instead, only person who knew about that was ATPG.

Good Game.

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Though I am not sure what atheotes and TM were up to this game...