Black woman single cos the black men are in jail - would you marry outside your race?

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04-22-2010, 02:54
Centurion1

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i am slightly Asian but i identify as white (you would agree if you saw me) but let me just say how many half asian kids i now. and to validate the point let me point out i live on a navy base. once those filipinos, koreans, japanese latch there claws into you they dont let go.

and i think Asian babies are absolutely adorable.
04-22-2010, 05:09
Seamus Fermanagh

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Originally Posted by Lemur

It's not as though the desire of racial characteristics is a one-way street, anyway. Go visit Europe and you'll realize just how black American culture really is.

Besides which, explain Michael Bolton and Joss Stone. Racial cross-pollination is going on all the time, and it ain't always a negative.

Has Germany recovered from Hasselhof yet?
04-22-2010, 08:55
Philippus Flavius Homovallumus

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Originally Posted by Strike For The South

I don't understand Lemur. Could you expand?

They're white people singing like Black people, Strike.
04-22-2010, 09:39
The Stranger

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Originally Posted by ajaxfetish

And there's an option for you in the poll. Don't expect everyone to feel the same way, though.

Ajax

i dont expect that. imj just trying to find out why they feel like that, why they care and i do not. i seek understanding not conversion. i mean i can understand you want your kids to look like you, but like lemur said i think skincolour attributes some of the least to that. you can have your kid look exactly like you but only darker, or fairer. and i also believe there is alot of prejudice about interracial mixing and taboo also which has to be broken. sofar i think the only negative things i can think about interracial mixing is social more than biological.
04-22-2010, 11:36
Rhyfelwyr

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Well skin colour is probably the main feature of a person's appearance, there is a very striking difference between a pale white person and a really dark black person. And it's not like its the only difference, black people do have different facial features etc.
04-22-2010, 11:53
Ser Clegane

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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

Has Germany recovered from Hasselhof yet?

These scars stay forever :shame:
04-22-2010, 13:26
The Stranger

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there is no point argueing here...
04-22-2010, 13:52
Fragony

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Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr

Well skin colour is probably the main feature of a person's appearance, there is a very striking difference between a pale white person and a really dark black person. And it's not like its the only difference, black people do have different facial features etc.

Black is not another shade of white ya. We are all the same species but there are differences and we all have preferences, I am not attracted to Asian types for example but black women oh yummie they are gorgeous. Caucasian brunettes for the win though, drive me nuts
04-22-2010, 14:04
Beskar

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Originally Posted by Beskar

I think we should go with "pinkskins" when we describe ourselves.

(You get +1 balloon if you get the reference)

Just incase no one got the reference, it was Star Trek Enterprise, when they met the Andorians (Blue skinned people) and they called humans "pink skins". What made it even more amusing, when they met the "black" crew member, and he still called him a pinkskin, same with the Asian crewmember, etc. I think it goes to show that we aren't too different afterall.
04-22-2010, 15:34
Sasaki Kojiro

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Originally Posted by The Stranger

i dont expect that. imj just trying to find out why they feel like that, why they care and i do not. i seek understanding not conversion. i mean i can understand you want your kids to look like you, but like lemur said i think skincolour attributes some of the least to that. you can have your kid look exactly like you but only darker, or fairer. and i also believe there is alot of prejudice about interracial mixing and taboo also which has to be broken. sofar i think the only negative things i can think about interracial mixing is social more than biological.

There are certain visual illusions which are culture dependent--people from one culture (because of the way the buildings are constructed there) literally see it in a very different way than people from another culture do.

The point being, you're approaching attraction as if it's dependent on belief, but we might not have control over it to that extent.
04-22-2010, 15:59
The Stranger

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no im not talking about attraction. i dont say that people can choose what or who they are attracted to. i dont think they can. im just trying to find out wether the reasons people give can hold. and im saying that those reasons shouldnt matter, all that should matter is are you attracted to this woman, are you in love with this woman and would you want children with her. why is not important.
04-22-2010, 16:05
Rhyfelwyr

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Originally Posted by The Stranger

there is no point argueing here...

What is there to argue? We're talking about things rooted in our subconscious here, you can't change them by the power of reason.
04-22-2010, 16:12
Husar

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Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr

What is there to argue? We're talking about things rooted in our subconscious here, you can't change them by the power of reason.

Only Tom Cruise can, when he sees you, he knows, he can help!
04-22-2010, 17:29
The Stranger

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i was referring to hasselhof :P
04-22-2010, 18:03
Strike For The South

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Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

They're white people singing like Black people, Strike.

Do black people sing a certian way now?
04-22-2010, 18:17
Louis VI the Fat

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Originally Posted by Strike For The South

Do black people sing a certian way now?

Of course.

Different anatomy means different skull bones, mouth shapes, and especially different vocal fold thickness, length, and elasticity. All etnic groups sound distinct as much as they look distinct.
04-22-2010, 18:21
Strike For The South

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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

Of course.

Different anatomy means different skull bones, mouth shapes, and especially different vocal fold thickness, length, and elasticity. All etnic groups sound distinct as much as they look distinct.

So you're saying we can attribute these things to all different groups and have it be right 90% of the time?

I know you're making a point here but some people still beilve (as evidenced in this thread) that certian groups of people are more pre disposed to do something simply because of what skin color they were born into.
04-22-2010, 18:39
Louis VI the Fat

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Originally Posted by Strike For The South

So you're saying we can attribute these things to all different groups and have it be right 90% of the time?

I know you're making a point here but some people still beilve (as evidenced in this thread) that certian groups of people are more pre disposed to do something simply because of what skin color they were born into.

I am not sure people are disposed to much of anything because of their skin colour. People are very much disposed to a good deal of things based on their genetic make-up, yes.

For example: http://jslhr.asha.org/cgi/content/abstract/39/3/573

What is funny, is that distinct ethnic sounds are most pronounced at an early age, then gradually dissappear. White and Black voices of eighty-year olds are much more alike than those of twenty-somethings. Male and female voices too lose much of their distinction with old age.
04-22-2010, 18:46
Strike For The South

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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

I am not sure people are disposed to much of anything because of their skin colour. People are very much disposed to a good deal of things based on their genetic make-up, yes.

For example: http://jslhr.asha.org/cgi/content/abstract/39/3/573

What is funny, is that distinct ethnic sounds are most pronounced at an early age, then gradually dissappear. White and Black voices of eighty-year olds are much more alike than those of twenty-somethings. Male and female voices too lose much of their distinction with old age.

You're muddiling the line between groups of people with shared gentics and "races"
04-22-2010, 18:49
The Stranger

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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

I am not sure people are disposed to much of anything because of their skin colour. People are very much disposed to a good deal of things based on their genetic make-up, yes.

For example: http://jslhr.asha.org/cgi/content/abstract/39/3/573

What is funny, is that distinct ethnic sounds are most pronounced at an early age, then gradually dissappear. White and Black voices of eighty-year olds are much more alike than those of twenty-somethings. Male and female voices too lose much of their distinction with old age.

your posts contradicts. and im not sure what u mean.
04-22-2010, 21:31
Lemur

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Originally Posted by Strike For The South

I don't understand Lemur. Could you expand?

Sorry Strike, I was so out of it yesterday I didn't feel up to writing an essay on cross-cultural influence. Slightly better today, so I'l take a small stab:

Black culture has had a massive impact on American culture. I think that's pretty obvious and undebatable. Whether it's the improv ethos of jazz, the syncopated rhythm, the adoption of words and phrases, fashion, etcetera. You can debate whether all of this influence is a good or a bad thing, but what you can't say is that it hasn't happened.

So it's easy to look at black women straightening their hair and dying it lighter and say, "Look, they're imitating the whites!" But that's a seriously incomplete picture. Black culture and white culture influence each other all over the damn place.

If America hadn't had black culture, here's what the hip cats would be listening to on a Friday night:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY2nXUUvwg4
04-22-2010, 21:45
HoreTore

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Originally Posted by Strike For The South

You're muddiling the line between groups of people with shared gentics and "races"

Well, there is just one human race, so.....

Look at a poodle and a german shepherd. Now look at a Nigerian and an englishman.

...Still believe there are more than one human race?
04-22-2010, 21:51
Megas Methuselah

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Originally Posted by HoreTore

Well, there is just one human race, so.....

Look at a poodle and a german shepherd. Now look at a Nigerian and an englishman.

...Still believe there are more than one human race?

My dog's a sheltie-terrier-bordercollie mix. Very cute thing, gets all sorts of compliments from strangers when out on walks...
04-22-2010, 21:54
Louis VI the Fat

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Originally Posted by HoreTore

Well, there is just one human race, so.....

Look at a poodle and a german shepherd. Now look at a Nigerian and an englishman.

...Still believe there are more than one human race?

In 20.000 years, wolves became chihuahuas and great danes. Humans diverged from one group 60.000 years ago.

The question is, why do you consider all people one single breed, and dogs diifferent breeds? Surely you acknowledge that different dog breeds have very different tempers, different intelligences, different character, different aggression levels?

By what mechanism are humans excempt from the evolutionary forces that govern the whole of nature?
04-22-2010, 22:00
ajaxfetish

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Originally Posted by The Stranger

sofar i think the only negative things i can think about interracial mixing is social more than biological.

Do social factors have no validity? I agree that negative biological effects are of little significance (though there are some genetic disorders with racial correlations to consider), but our society has a huge effect on us, not just our biology. Negative social effects are just as real as negative biological effects. Furthermore, as many others have said, this is mostly a subconscious phenomena, rather than a matter of choice. You seem under the impression that those who say they would marry within their race are attracted to other races, but choose to limit themselves to their own race nonetheless for the sake of social mores. I don't think this is accurate.

Ajax
04-22-2010, 22:50
The Stranger

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Originally Posted by ajaxfetish

Do social factors have no validity? I agree that negative biological effects are of little significance (though there are some genetic disorders with racial correlations to consider), but our society has a huge effect on us, not just our biology. Negative social effects are just as real as negative biological effects. Furthermore, as many others have said, this is mostly a subconscious phenomena, rather than a matter of choice. You seem under the impression that those who say they would marry within their race are attracted to other races, but choose to limit themselves to their own race nonetheless for the sake of social mores. I don't think this is accurate.

Ajax

no they do have validity. they are the only reason i can think of why people should actually consider wether or not they will have an interracial marriage.

and about your second point. that is not what I am saying at all, it is what they are saying. im just trying to check wether the reasons they give are valid. all im saying that in case you are attracted to a woman, lets say the woman of your dreams, you should not not marry her for being of different race. i dont say people do. im just saying if.
04-22-2010, 22:52
The Stranger

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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

In 20.000 years, wolves became chihuahuas and great danes. Humans diverged from one group 60.000 years ago.

The question is, why do you consider all people one single breed, and dogs diifferent breeds? Surely you acknowledge that different dog breeds have very different tempers, different intelligences, different character, different aggression levels?

By what mechanism are humans excempt from the evolutionary forces that govern the whole of nature?

wolves cant mate with chihuahuas. i think thats the reason why.

and i think horetore was being sarcastic.
04-22-2010, 23:15
drone

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Originally Posted by The Stranger

wolves cant mate with chihuahuas. i think thats the reason why.

I'm pretty sure you are wrong on that point. Dogs (Canis lupus familiaris) are technically a subspecies of wolf (Canis lupus), but there is not that much difference. If you can keep the wolf from eating the chihuahua (or any other domesticated dog), a viable mating is possible. Hybrids are fairly common. Same with coyotes and domesticated dogs.
04-23-2010, 00:18
Megas Methuselah

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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

In 20.000 years, wolves became chihuahuas and great danes. Humans diverged from one group 60.000 years ago.

The question is, why do you consider all people one single breed, and dogs diifferent breeds? Surely you acknowledge that different dog breeds have very different tempers, different intelligences, different character, different aggression levels?

By what mechanism are humans excempt from the evolutionary forces that govern the whole of nature?

yeh yeh yeh white power!
04-23-2010, 00:34
Rhyfelwyr

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Originally Posted by Megas Methuselah

yeh yeh yeh white power!

Maybe he's an afrocentrist?

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