He said "sucking" seriously? :laugh4:
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I think I figured this game out:
2 killers in a 7 man game would be horrendously overpowered. On another note, as the evil person in CDF's last game, I only had one kill for the entire game and an extra vote once guy for an ally. The Illithids have one kill, since they want to avoid direct conflict. They are trying to turn us against each other without having to get their hands dirty.
If you roleblocked me, it wouldn't have made any difference in the game, seeing that I have no ability outside of voting for one person during the day.
CDf still hasn't responded to my uncertainty about role claiming, but since he didn't pick Cent out for it, I guess its okay.
I'm Roger Conrad, the human that appears in the write up.
Gonna follow up my previous day's suspicion of Double A.
Vote: Double A
I have a bad feeling about jht's inactivity. vote: jht
I am suspicious of Double A, but as of right now I'm refraining from voting for him because my roleblock didn't stop the coughing.
Of course, the coughing could be a red herring.
Incidently, I dont think there is a conversion mechanic (the Game would be over).
I think we have a certain amount of time to kill the Ilithid before we are led somewhere bad. Look at the Morning 2 Posting.
Looks like you need some more time for everyone to show up. Extended for 24 hours.
Hey cent, VOTE! :laugh4:
vote: double a
Cool, the town's boned if there's more than one Illithid.
Since john is inactive everywhere (or so it would seem), and Cent is acting inactive too... and Pinman acts like this in EVERY game...
My money is on DIY, and I don't even want to think about it if there's 2 mafia.
unvote, vote: DIY
Double A.... John is dead.
The last host update has him as alive and lynched, easy mistake to make. :3
:curtain:
Well, that absolves him of guilt. Then there's only one Illithid, or else I'd be dead already.
No bad secura! No using beefy smilie. Bad girl!
I'm going to go out on a limb and Vote: DIY.
- Initially, he refused to vote for Beskar, "refusing to put away the possibly there wasn't a killer". However, later on he had no problem voting for Beskar - when I was in danger of dying.
- A skeptic could view this as and think that DIY WANTED to prolong Pinman vs Beskar Round 2, but didn't want to let Beskar run loose - and potentially kill him.
- During his post against Beskar - he actually setup Double A. DIY claimed that if Beskar was innocent, Double A would be the next suspect. Why wouldn't I be the next suspect?
- Again, a skeptic could view this as a way to cement his road to the finish line.
- Of course, I was also initially more suspicious of Double A than DIY, because he has been acting scummy all game. However, last night I roleblocked him and the coughing didn't stop. This could mean the world, or this could mean nothing. I'm going to make the wild assumption that it means Double A isn't doing the remaining bad thing - whatever that is.
In the past, I came to a CDf game with quite a few preconceptions, I was horribly wrong. At the planning phase, CDf declared he wanted to change his style of games and hosting, if you noticed what I wrote, I refused to possibly commit to the same mistake and hence I did not rule out that possibility, as the game story starter showed the illithid baddies as mind controllers, rather than direct killers.Quote:
- Initially, he refused to vote for Beskar, "refusing to put away the possibly there wasn't a killer".
I'm trying to learn from my mistakes, which human doesn't?
You ignore the fact that you publicly stated that Beskar was role blocked for two nights in a row and two nights in a row no kills occurred.Quote:
However, later on he had no problem voting for Beskar - when I was in danger of dying.
I gave Beskar a pass the first day incident where you claimed because there was a possibility of a coincidence or something. After two nights of no kills with claimed successive role blocks, are you saying that my vote and change in stance is still unjustified?
Apologies, but I don't see how this refers to me being scum, because Beskar was the serial killer, even in a large game Serial Killers are largely solo players, not team players.Quote:
DIY WANTED to prolong Pinman vs Beskar Round 2, but didn't want to let Beskar run loose - and potentially kill him.
Right here, you are also ignoring the fact that I wanted to give Beskar one chance, therefore I voted someone other than Beskar. You don't give people chances by lynching them Pinman.
I understand you are referring to the fact that Beskar claimed vigilante and hence you state that I would be afraid if he were let loose.
If that follows, wouldn't I have voted him dead the first time round Pinman? Your logic doesn't follow. I gave Beskar a chance because well, its sort of meta-gaming but I tend to trust him a bit more. Its an inescapable situation because in a situation choosing between someone you know better than another, you are inclined to trust the fellow you know well.
Double A's behavior seemed off from his normal, askew even, but the fact remained (in public too! Thanks to your own claim which you seem to be conveniently ignoring as the basis of my decisions) that Beskar was apparently role blocked for twice in a row, and no kills occurred. Here, my one chance expired.Quote:
- During his post against Beskar - he actually setup Double A. DIY claimed that if Beskar was innocent, Double A would be the next suspect. Why wouldn't I be the next suspect?
You're not being fair Pinman. If I didn't vote to lynch Beskar, you would have accused me of trying to spare my possible scum buddy as the opinion was that the possible kill was impeded by yourself.
Its all a matter of opinion. Apologies, but you're sounding like this skeptic.Quote:
- Again, a skeptic could view this as a way to cement his road to the finish line.
Yet you question why I said that if Beskar (top suspect due to roleblock = no kills) was not the guilty (referring to primary threat), then Double A would be next to go?Quote:
- Of course, I was also initially more suspicious of Double A than DIY, because he has been acting scummy all game.
I'm going to go out of a limb and assume that by coughing, you are referring to conversions. On a purely uninformed note, coughing contains the connotation to me that suggests a build up/not instantaneous.Quote:
However, last night I roleblocked him and the coughing didn't stop.
I find it a real possibility that since Beskar had role information about conversions and the what not, I doubt that conversions in a 7 man game would be instantaneous, that would be extremely unfair. If you don't understand what I'm saying, basically I'm suggesting that Double A was possibly infected the night before, therefore the coughing didn't stop.
On the other hand, I don't have access to this information, so all I'm trying to say here is that you may not necessarily be correct that since you role blocked Double A and the coughing didn't stop, therefore he isn't the baddie you are looking for.
That's entirely your prerogative, but I'm going to stay my vote to Double A, because he is, and still remains, the most scummy individual alive in my opinion (because I know I'm innocent, so who does that leave?).Quote:
I'm going to make the wild assumption that it means Double A isn't doing the remaining bad thing - whatever that is.
In Conclusion:
Pinman, are you telling me posts like this aren't scummy?Quote:
Cool, the town's boned if there's more than one Illithid.
Since john is inactive everywhere (or so it would seem), and Cent is acting inactive too... and Pinman acts like this in EVERY game...
My money is on DIY, and I don't even want to think about it if there's 2 mafia.
Am I wrong to act on my suspicions?
If this isn't scummy that I will quote Sasaki commenting on Flax with the name changed.
"Double A needs to die on principle, no townie should even be that scummy".
I'm acting on probability. If Centurion is less scummy than Double A, and Pinman is also less scummy than Double A, and I know I am innocent, who do you want me to vote.
Honestly Pinman, do you expect me to vote myself? :stare:
I admit I have been unclear on some things that I should have stated such as if Beskar wasn't "guilty" which he was not (serial killers typically =/= main threat) then Double A would be next, but I'm just not seeing the majority of your case on me. Arguably I'm being biased but I know my own role.
:sweatdrop:Quote:
Originally Posted by Secura
The change in stance is significant in that during the second round of voting - it was Beskar vs. Khazzar, whereas in the third round, it was me vs. Beskar. It would be alright for the Illithid to see Beskar survive round two with me still alive, as he would continue to be roleblocked. However, during round three, the Illithid couldn't risk me dying -- thereby removing the roleblock on Beskar. This would expose the illithid to the danger of being murdered.
Obviously the case isn't foolproof -- this is mafia after all. However, I have to make judgements based on the evidence I have, which suggests that my roleblock on Double A was ineffective in stopping the 'bad guy stuff'. This leaves you and cent, and this is better than a coin toss - isn't it?
The only reason it was Beskar vs Khazaar and not Beskar vs Pinman in the second round of voting, was because that to accuse you, would only affirm your case on Beskar.
Furthermore, I have already stated.
My motivation for letting Beskar survive the first round in which he was roleblocked, was that he claimed pro-town power role, therefore I gave him a one round chance, due to possible coincidence. This lead to me choosing Khazaar, putting him tied for the lead, because unlike Beskar, he didn't claim or anything once shoved to the front.
Additionally, my intentions were to give Beskar a chance to prove himself (If explicit scum activity occurred again despite roleblock). Wouldn't it logically follow that I would let Beskar live on a single chance, that once exhausted, would mean my vote for his death?
Evidently, I'm not going to be able to convince you here, because we have one scenario leading to varying possibilities, and we have chosen differing views. So I will leave this matter as it is.
Think about my role, why would the mafia want me alive if he can convert, then decide to want me dead afterwards.
alright ending the round. (sorry, Mount and Blade was calling.)
End of Day 4:
The remains of the party walked down the hallways slowly, trying to remain quiet. The air was starting to get less oppressive, and more than once Punikit had commented that they were getting much closer to the surface. The uneasy truce between them all was starting to break. Gringar was a bit back from the rest, and he was quietly whispering to himself. Garl looked at him warily. The minotaur stopped in his tracks and turned about, facing the rest of the party.
"What is this? Whats wrong with the Goblin!" He said fiercely. Roger and Punikit looked back to find Gringer still walking forward, apparently not paying attention to the Minotaurs question. The Kobold shrugged "The torture took him harder than most, he tends to do this lot. No harm to it, he just retreats into himself."
Garl frowned "I don't trust it. What if he is a spy from the Illithids? He can't stay here, too risky."
Roger scoffed "you might as well kill him now then, there is no way he will survive on his own with his mind wandering like this." Punikit nodded shakily. Garl shrugged and hefted his club
"if you both insist." The club smashed down on the Gobllin, Shattering his skull and causing Roger and Punikit to jump backwards.
"what in the nine hells was that for?" roger screamed.
"you said to kill him now. So I did."
Roger sighed and checked his sword belt "looks like the Goblins not the only crazy one here. Lets get out of here. I am done dealing with you crazy's."
You have Lynched Gringar, A goblin Chief (Double A), He was a Townie
Begin Night 4, Ends July 4th at 8:00 PM EST
Signups: 3/7
Pinman
Death is Yonder
Centurion1
Lynched: 4
johnhughthom
Khazaar
Beskar
Double A
almost over everyone :beam:
Shocker.
Well, at least I have a 50% chance of roleblocking the right guy tonight. If roleblocking is effective.
RACISTS!
Hmm, my hunch was wrong.
Nicely done Cent, laying low the whole game while the high profile fellows occupied the spotlight, a convenient target other than yourself every single day :tongue:
No doubt Pinman is going to block me and then vote to lynch me since he considers me scummier than you :beam:
Also, that's like what, 3 random.org'd lynches already? :laugh4:
Cent would be dead if it wasnt for Pinman (and the slight not unvoting accident).
The dice gods are indeed pleased that they have been called on so many times. But I fear it would perhaps be better not to place so much faith in their fickle faces.Quote:
Originally Posted by Death is yonder
Its not me its diy.
Nice attempted deflection there diy.
I know I'm going to get lynched tomorrow Cent, so I'm congratulating you on a job well played beforehand :wink:
Fact remains that Pinman isn't going to lynch himself, and he currently thinks I'm more scummy than you, and you aren't going to lynch yourself hehehe :yes:
OTOH, would be really interesting if Pinman really was the mafia.
It would make sense, given his ability.
I'm the minotar. My roleblocking is not telepathic - its physical.
ie: roleblocked Beskar by throwing a rock at him (Day 3 Writeup).