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Its too early to tell, Im not even sure if any of the suspects have been apprehended.
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They're not apprehended, but the police has released photo of the two suspects in the bombing.
Perhaps the reason no terrorist group has claimed responsibility, is because the attack isn't over yet? And if it's Al-Q again, isn't this the first time they've used firearms in their attacks(on foreign soil)?
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HoreTore
They're not apprehended, but the police has released photo of the two suspects in the bombing.
Perhaps the reason no terrorist group has claimed responsibility, is because the attack isn't over yet? And if it's Al-Q again, isn't this the first time they've used firearms in their attacks(on foreign soil)?
Forgot about that hotel in India?
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Forgot about that hotel in India?
I guess I did. Though India isn't that foreign to pakistanis...
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Forgot about that hotel in India?
that wasn't an Al-Q style group it was part of the ongoing Kashmir conflict - and guns are common in the long history of terrorism in that conflict
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that wasn't an Al-Q style group it was part of the ongoing Kashmir conflict - and guns are common in the long history of terrorism in that conflict
I thought it had been claimed but I am not sure, disregard post
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I think that they are Dagestani MIT students. Interesting
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KGB sleeper cells then!
Finding out who said the trigger word will be top priority.
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Islamic Seperatists. The news is reporting them as Chechen. Either way, Islamic Seperatists. But why here? Why not Moscow or something?
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Islamic Seperatists. The news is reporting them as Chechen. Either way, Islamic Seperatists. But why here? Why not Moscow or something?
Guy looked pretty tanned for a Chechen seperatist
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Islamic Seperatists. The news is reporting them as Chechen. Either way, Islamic Seperatists. But why here? Why not Moscow or something?
That does seem strange choice for a Chechen, Russia being the classic choice. I could almost understand a Palestinian but America doesn't really give any support to the Russians with Chechnya other than fighting Islamic extremism elsewhere...
Strange.
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Guy looked pretty tanned for a Chechen seperatist
Central Asians are the most fascinating people on earth. The Caucasus region has had what seems like every single culture deeply invested there at some point. People from South Eastern Russian Caucasus have Iranian, Turkic, Arabic, Armenian, Caucasian, European roots. People have been ruled by Christians, Muslims, pantheists and even Jews at certain points. Some were shipped into the area during the Communist revolution from all over Russia. Muslims with drinking problems. Cross the Caspian and the people get even more interesting and start looking East Asian... In Mosques... After getting drunk... And speaking Russian... To Indians...
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That does seem strange choice for a Chechen, Russia being the classic choice. I could almost understand a Palestinian but America doesn't really give any support to the Russians with Chechnya other than fighting Islamic extremism elsewhere...
Strange.
Indeed.
My bet is on a Breivik-type
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Central Asians are the most fascinating people on earth. The Caucasus region has had what seems like every single culture deeply invested there at some point. People from South Eastern Russian Caucasus have Iranian, Turkic, Arabic, Armenian, Caucasian, European roots. People have been ruled by Christians, Muslims, pantheists and even Jews at certain points. Some were shipped into the area during the Communist revolution from all over Russia. Muslims with drinking problems. Cross the Caspian and the people get even more interesting and start looking East Asian... In Mosques... After getting drunk... And speaking Russian... To Indians...
Pretty sure the dark guy is a negroe, they aren't very popular in the east
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They are reporting that he is Kyrgyz. So... Nowhere near Chechnya. The US has bases there and they've been going through civil strife for years with a US airbase supplying ISAF
Edit: brother might be Chechen. Probably different mothers, dad may have been traveling Soviet military during 80s and 90s making babies all over central Asia.
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Looks like they are Chechen after all. Why bomb people in the US I don't get it
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Fragony
Looks like they are Chechen after all. Why bomb people in the US I don't get it
Apparently they emigrated 10 years ago. A link to Chechnya is thus unlikely. Seems like it's a(nother) case of a homegrown terrorist.
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Looks like they are Chechen after all. Why bomb people in the US I don't get it
Sadly, one of the answers to your question is "it gets great media coverage if you whack USA'ers."
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Apparently they emigrated 10 years ago. A link to Chechnya is thus unlikely. Seems like it's a(nother) case of a homegrown terrorist.
You are probably right about that
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A notable number of the dead Taliban turn out to be Chechen. The ones I have seen in person tend to have darker skin than these guys. And, ya know, be dead and stuff.
Chechen muslims have plenty of reason to kill americans, whether they were born in Dagestan, Kyrgystan or wherever. Fight one muslims fight them all.... didnt help them when Russia was raping their border villages.....they grow up here and feel like outsiders probably because they act like outsiders and then they get mad and the anger festers and then boom.
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So, older brother (warned about by the Russians) gets killed this morning in a shootout with the cops, and the younger apprehended alive hiding in a boat in someone's back yard. It will be interesting to see the CYA/finger pointing about ignoring the older brother.
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Chechen muslims have plenty of reason to kill americans, whether they were born in Dagestan, Kyrgystan or wherever. Fight one muslims fight them all.... didnt help them when Russia was raping their border villages.....they grow up here and feel like outsiders probably because they act like outsiders and then they get mad and the anger festers and then boom.
I was listening to the radio this morning and they were interviewing a woman who said her nephew was good friends with the younger brother, supposedly in high school he was fairly popular and never talked about his religion.
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That's the creepy part they look like really nice guys. Things like this really can't be prevented, and we really don't want type of security that could.
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So what will Russia say about the US liberation campaign in Chechnya?
Will it be a coordinated effort or will Russia and the US fight over who gets to liberate it first? ~;)
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You are not supposed to have a sense of humour Husar you are German, doesn't anything make any sense anymore
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I was listening to the radio this morning and they were interviewing a woman who said her nephew was good friends with the younger brother, supposedly in high school he was fairly popular and never talked about his religion.
Most religious extremists are not really known for their in-depth knowledge of their religious convictions.
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Most religious extremists are not really known for their in-depth knowledge of their religious convictions.
Could just as easibily been seperatists, nobody knows. Nobody claimed the attack, kinda odd considering how much hurt it caused
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I must say the police seem to have done everything right. Kudos to the Boston Police for having the skill and will to capture him alive.
Also, very good spirit shown by Boston in general. Finally some people in the USA have understood that the best way to fight terrorism is to go on with your daily lives as if nothing happened.
One does however hope that a lingering thought of WHY it happened remains.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkcOkK4MYIw
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Kadagar_AV
I must say the police seem to have done everything right. Kudos to the Boston Police for having the skill and will to capture him alive.
Also, very good spirit shown by Boston in general. Finally some people in the USA have understood that the best way to fight terrorism is to go on with your daily lives as if nothing happened.
One does however hope that a lingering thought of WHY it happened remains.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkcOkK4MYIw
They did fine enough after 9-11, what do you mean with 'finally'.
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“On the other hand, 10 years isn't a long time for a sleeper cell”: Sleeper at 9 years old?
“given our relatively good relations with Russia”: About Georgia or Kosovo?
“Fight one muslims fight them all” True, it is how extremists see it. They just forget the help to the Bosnian and the Kosovars… In fact, until the Bush No2, the US policy was more in favour of Muslim Populations than others (some said at that time it was to counter-balance the unconditional support for Israel). And before, help to Afghanistan against the Russian support of Pakistan and Indonesia…