Speaking of Israel...

The correct answer is: a massacre.

Er... technically if the casulaties are purely millitary then a 263-1 I consider it a successful military action, I have a propensity for artillery and like it when the battles are one sided.

Obviously in this case where the casualties are civillians it's a massacre, but the numbers dont by themselves constitute massacre in the wrongful mass murder sense, to be clear here.

Lets take a look at the few Hamas fireworks landing in leafy, well-to-do Israeli suburbs. Cat slightly scared:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpqiHchsbE0

And then compare to the effect of battlefield munitions being fired into the crappy ghetto of Gaza:

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270 dead versus 1 dead. These are civilians.

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Originally Posted by Idaho

Lets take a look at the few Hamas fireworks landing in leafy, well-to-do Israeli suburbs. Cat slightly scared:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpqiHchsbE0

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Much lulz for the cat, but I launched bigger stuff than that on July 4th. Was that just a remnant from an iron dome intercept? :inquisitive:

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Originally Posted by drone

Much lulz for the cat, but I launched bigger stuff than that on July 4th. Was that just a remnant from an iron dome intercept? :inquisitive:

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Ding ding ding.

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The Jerusalem Post reported that the metal shard that hit the tree was a remnant of an Israel Defense Force Iron Dome missile intercepting a rocket that had been launched from Gaza.

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Are you trying to post an advertisement for Israel's Iron-dome system or you simply trying to mislead people by not presenting all the facts?

Sorry - I got my stats wrong. It's now 290 - 1. Among the latest dead, 3 kids shot by a tank.

1,300 permanently displaced, 40,000 in UN shelters. Although with Israel's past form for not giving a shit about those...

Isn't it 290-2 now?

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Originally Posted by Tiaexz

Are you trying to post an advertisement for Israel's Iron-dome system or you simply trying to mislead people by not presenting all the facts?

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Maybe I'm just guessing (correctly, it appears) as to why a rocket would make such a lame impact. :inquisitive: Iron Dome gets a lot of press, but it's not as good as the hype makes it out to be.

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Originally Posted by drone

..., but it's not as good as the hype makes it out to be.

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http://www.technologyreview.com/news...-analysts-say/

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Originally Posted by Tiaexz

Part of why my suggested solution would be for settlements to be erected for the Palestinian population in the neighbouring countries and the various areas, and they be granted citizenship in those areas and compensated. It isn't the most ideal situation in the world, but if I was in that situation, being compensated to live with a home and work, would be a better alternative than nothing at all.

This would obviously be a policy carried out over a stretch of years from agreements and practical standpoint. Obviously working better if the compensation is generous, perhaps assistance from foreign aid budgets.

Israel would most likely end up burdened with the greatest cost in the arrangement, as it should be if they want those territories.

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So, like the people of Diego Garcia?

Nope - not acceptable - you would be condemning the Palestinians to a worse fate than they face now - and denying them the right to the land they have bled over.

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Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

Nope - not acceptable - you would be condemning the Palestinians to a worse fate than they face now - and denying them the right to the land they have bled over.

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Actually, I meant for the ones in Palestine to actually stay there, idea being, Israel would find the conditions too costly to move them, so they will accept them as legitimate people/owners of that area. I was referring for settlements for the refugees and citizenships, which is a big concern.

Extreme nationalists cruelly stomping civilians being used as cover by religious extremists who launch the dumbest of bombs in order to prompt retaliation using the smartest of technology, all for the sake of hopefully getting the favor of Europe who created the entire situation in the first place.

What a joke.

European exceptionalism/ingenuity!

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Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name

Extreme nationalists cruelly stomping civilians being used as cover by religious extremists who launch the dumbest of bombs in order to prompt retaliation using the smartest of technology, all for the sake of hopefully getting the favor of Europe who created the entire situation in the first place.

What a joke.

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David Lloyd George - created the northern Ireland conflict, the Arab Israeli conflict, the Cyprus disaster.

So with the latest bombing the death toll reaches over 300 with 8 members of the same family dead.

Americans are a strange lot. They seem more prone to narratives that create an "other", an enemy. Once that division is made, all sympathy and action flows from that. This explains why they have always been so poor at wars of occupation. They can't switch from being invading aggressors to defensive peacekeepers.

If anyone was still in mistaken belief that Israeli is not deliberately trying to destroy the viability of the Palestinian state:From The New York Times:

How the West Chose War in Gaza

By preventing payment of Hamas workers salaries and free passage to Egypt, Israel and the West laid the groundwork for the latest escalation.
http://<br /> http://www.nytimes.com...-the-west.html

http://youtu.be/Qd2lZosBrig

Sad - because I think Jewish girls are hot.

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Originally Posted by Ironside

Relevant video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-evIyrrjTTY

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And this is probably why no one cares ^^

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Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube

Everybody can't have the same taste, that would get boring fast. I'm sure some of them are just talking for the camera, though. :laugh4:

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Personally interesting because my cousin married a Jew - and as she's not Jewish, their children will not be deemed Jewish. Also interesting because the first thing my father asked on hearing of the engagement was "what do his parents think?"

Which shows the generational gap.

As someone who is Jewish who has no intention of marrying Jewish, I know that I will probably be disowned if I don't marry within the fold.

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Originally Posted by Hooahguy

As someone who is Jewish who has no intention of marrying Jewish, I know that I will probably be disowned if I don't marry within the fold.

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Eh - come to the UK.

Although, if you'd seen Suzie Gold you'd think all Jews here were obsessed with their children "marrying out". Although the main reason to see that film is to appreciate just how hot Summer Phoenix is, and then to curse because it's the last film she made.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0348155/

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Originally Posted by Idaho

David Lloyd George - created the northern Ireland conflict, the Arab Israeli conflict, the Cyprus disaster.

So with the latest bombing the death toll reaches over 300 with 8 members of the same family dead.

Americans are a strange lot. They seem more prone to narratives that create an "other", an enemy. Once that division is made, all sympathy and action flows from that. This explains why they have always been so poor at wars of occupation. They can't switch from being invading aggressors to defensive peacekeepers.

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Part of the decision on Archangel in support of White Russia as well, if I recall. Not to mention his willingness to cave in to the Germans in 1940.

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Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

Eh - come to the UK.

Although, if you'd seen Suzie Gold you'd think all Jews here were obsessed with their children "marrying out". Although the main reason to see that film is to appreciate just how hot Summer Phoenix is, and then to curse because it's the last film she made.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0348155/

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Technically if your child doesnt marry Jewish then Jewish law says you must consider them as if they were dead. Funny lot we Jews are.

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Originally Posted by Hooahguy

Technically if your child doesnt marry Jewish then Jewish law says you must consider them as if they were dead. Funny lot we Jews are.

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I remember a pal of mine from my grad school days....his grandfather told him to enjoy himself all he wanted but to remember that "shiksa were just for practice."

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I remember a pal of mine from my grad school days....his grandfather told him to enjoy himself all he wanted but to remember that "shiksa were just for practice."

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Haha yes that is a saying. There really isnt anything that I know of in Jewish law that prohibits sex with non-Jews, its the procreating part which is the problem.

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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

I remember a pal of mine from my grad school days....his grandfather told him to enjoy himself all he wanted but to remember that "shiksa were just for practice."

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That's sickening.

http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/o...im/2013/10/02/

That is actually somewhat crazy, just imagine someone today wrote that article about aryans instead of jews.
Or about muslims marrying non-muslims or blacks marrying non-blacks...

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Originally Posted by Husar

http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/o...im/2013/10/02/

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Parochialism makes me :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr

That's sickening.

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Yeah, and exactly why orthodox jews and conservative muslims don't belong here in the west.

Go away. Desert->

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Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr

That's sickening.

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Out of curiosity, why? I do agree that the concept is kinda funny for me in an uneasy manner since Ive had a better time with "shiksas" than any Jewish gal so far, but Ive always seen that phrase as more of a joke than something to be taken seriously.

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Originally Posted by Husar

http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/o...im/2013/10/02/

That is actually somewhat crazy, just imagine someone today wrote that article about aryans instead of jews.
Or about muslims marrying non-muslims or blacks marrying non-blacks...

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Yeah, nobody with half a brain at least in the Jewish world takes the Jewish Press seriously. It's a rag, kinda like the Daily Mail.

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Out of curiosity, why? I do agree that the concept is kinda funny for me in an uneasy manner since Ive had a better time with "shiksas" than any Jewish gal so far, but Ive always seen that phrase as more of a joke than something to be taken seriously.

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Because he's saying that girls outside of his own race/religion can be treated like sex objects for nothing more than his own gratification. Even if it is only said in jest it is still an unhealthy mindset to have.

To treat girls like sex objects is always wrong, but adding a racial aspect to it makes it particularly disgusting.