Now, these are not terrorists, right? Just your average muslim refugees...

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His behavior does not always match what he preaches, like his attitude to his mother, whom he seems to be ashamed of and disregards her entreaties. Where is the "respect thy parents" stuff? Having this in view, his ass-confiscating trick doesn't seem so immaculate.

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You have a serious lack of understanding and I'm afraid I do not have the patience now to teach you everything about the bible.
If you want to know more about this, here is a link: http://shamelesspopery.com/did-jesus...n-luke-819-21/

It's a catholic one but they seem to know how to explain this.

You can even read up on the ass story if you want to: http://www.tektonics.org/af/donkeythief.php
I like the last paragraph in that one. :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

On the other hand, you could say, "God provides - for himself".

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I shall also refer you to the last paragraph of my last link, as well as the idea that providing the ass would surely be rewarded in heaven.

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Which would be pointless/unfair without free will and therefore make the interpretation that Jesus knew the owner would hand over the ass voluntarily problematic.

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Not only that:

In modern terms one can call it gang robbery.

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Well, he was publicly executed less than a week after ordering this "crime." Was not the fault of the local authorities that the execution didn't take.

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We may add, finally, that since God owns everything, how can the Son of God taking anything be stealing?

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Holy shit, so since all human souls belong to God, can Jesus just kill anybody at will?*

We need a buddy comedy, something like: Christ and Beelzebub: Reapers at Law .

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Yes I know about the apocrypha

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

Holy shit, so since all human souls belong to God, can Jesus just kill anybody at will?*

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Since god is also love he would never want to do that for fun, only as a punishment if the person deserves it. Or as part of his plan.
Christians should even like the idea since they'd get to heaven and heaven is obviously better than our earthly lives.

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Originally Posted by Husar

Since god is also love he would never want to do that for fun, only as a punishment if the person deserves it. Or as part of his plan.
Christians should even like the idea since they'd get to heaven and heaven is obviously better than our earthly lives.

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Sounds like dangerous thinking.

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Originally Posted by CrossLOPER

Sounds like dangerous thinking.

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Nah... Sounds like Husar has post-nazi trauma and want to equal Christianity to Islam...

Even though Christianity in his region has gone through things such as, oh I don't know... The reformation, the enlightenment, the french revolution... Just to name a few.

I will answer other posters when I get the time, hopefully tomorrow... But this post seriously was so stupid I had do jump in.

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Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV

Christianity... enlightenment

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I thought Montmorency was overly harsh when he said that you had the mind and intellect of a particularly dumb eleven year old, and I try to stay away from direct insults since philosophy major wannabes will start reading from a list of debate fallacies. However, when you start making arguments like this...

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Originally Posted by CrossLOPER

Sounds like dangerous thinking.

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Well, suicide is usually regarded as a sin, god decides when your time has come, it is not okay to speed up the process since he may need you on earth, e.g. to bring lost souls back to him etc.

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Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV

But this post seriously was so stupid I had do jump in.

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Come on, CrossLOPER asked a valid question...

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Originally Posted by CrossLOPER

I thought Montmorency was overly harsh when he said that you had the mind and intellect of a particularly dumb eleven year old, and I try to stay away from direct insults since philosophy major wannabes will start reading from a list of debate fallacies. However, when you start making arguments like this...

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Eh... Do you even have the education to grasp what "The Enlightenment" means in English?

If not, Google search "the enlightenment", will you? Bah.


Husar, If there was a valid question among his ill thought out posts I have yet to see it... If you want to repeat it and make it your own you are more than welcome though :)

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Husar, If there was a valid question among his ill thought out posts I have yet to see it... If you want to repeat it and make it your own you are more than welcome though :)

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Why would I want to? I already answered it... :inquisitive:

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Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV

Eh... Do you even have the education to grasp what "The Enlightenment" means in English?

If not, Google search "the enlightenment", will you? Bah.

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Take your own advice.

You stated that Christianity had gone through some sort of transformational/transitional phase, naming the enlightenment among them. This was a movement which, among other things, undermined Christianity and had several prominent figures denounce and reject it entirely in favor of deism (In extreme cases, Atheism).

If your original statement was pro-Christianity, it was somewhat misguided in that respect.

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Come on, CrossLOPER asked a valid question...

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I was being flippant.

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Originally Posted by CrossLOPER

I was being flippant.

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Well, he quoted your post then talked a lot of rubbish about my posts and then said "this post was seriously so stupid", we may never find out whose/which post was meant so I just blamed it on you. Seems to have worked though. :mellow:

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Originally Posted by CrossLOPER

Take your own advice.

You stated that Christianity had gone through some sort of transformational/transitional phase, naming the enlightenment among them. This was a movement which, among other things, undermined Christianity and had several prominent figures denounce and reject it entirely in favor of deism (In extreme cases, Atheism).

If your original statement was pro-Christianity, it was somewhat misguided in that respect.

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My original statement wasn't pro-christianity, and that is why you make no sense.

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Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV

My original statement wasn't pro-christianity, and that is why you make no sense.

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Hey, remember that time when you stated that we should take your statements at face-value? Good times, right?

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Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV

Nah... Sounds like Husar has post-nazi trauma and want to equal Christianity to Islam...

Even though Christianity in his region has gone through things such as, oh I don't know... The reformation, the enlightenment, the french revolution... Just to name a few.

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It seems like you are speaking highly of Christianity in comparison to Islam. Perhaps you would like to clear things up?

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Originally Posted by CrossLOPER

Hey, remember that time when you stated that we should take your statements at face-value? Good times, right?

It seems like you are speaking highly of Christianity in comparison to Islam. Perhaps you would like to clear things up?

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Of course... I wouldn't be a teacher if I didn't like to clear things up for the dim witted.

Yes, I do in fact speak highly of Christianity COMPARED TO ISLAM, because of the reasons I have already given... Christianity has, again, gone through The Reformation, The Enlightenment, the French Revolution... Just to name a few.

Islam has none or little of that.

With that said do I in absolutely NO way support christianity, as I am intelligent and can draw facts from sources.

But still, christianity is better than Islam... Based on numbers and statistics.

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Of course... I wouldn't be a teacher if I didn't like to clear things up for the dim witted.

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Disgusting. This is probably one of the worst attitudes I've ever seen regarding teaching short of actually getting the job just so as to more easily prey upon children.

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Of course... I wouldn't be a teacher if I didn't like to clear things up for the dim witted.

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Teaching is a learning process in itself, I guess. Speaking clearly and being able to communicate your thoughts effectively without brooding or being overcome with your own self-importance is an critical skill that one generally needs to develop.

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Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV

Yes, I do in fact speak highly of Christianity COMPARED TO ISLAM, because of the reasons I have already given... Christianity has, again, gone through The Reformation, The Enlightenment, the French Revolution... Just to name a few.

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Thereby showing that you carried absolutely nothing away from learning about any of that.

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Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV

Islam has none or little of that.

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Religions change with people and their environment. This is something that you keep ignoring, and it worries me that your interpretations are so 2-dimensional.

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With that said do I in absolutely NO way support christianity, as I am intelligent and can draw facts from sources.

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You're edgy as shit, and say whatever you feel like so long as it makes your views seem somehow more viable.

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Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV

But still, christianity is better than Islam... Based on numbers and statistics.

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Numbers and statistics that you will never, ever provide because you know they will be shot to tatters.

You still have not addressed my original assertions, but seeing as how you can gracefully you brush everything away with "you're just dim-witted", I guess I will never stop waiting.

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Disgusting. This is probably one of the worst attitudes I've ever seen regarding teaching short of actually getting the job just so as to more easily prey upon children.

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Care to elaborate?

YES, students in their preteens can be quite dim witted. Do you seriously think an 11 year old will solve cancer anytime soon? The joy of teaching is to help separate what is true, from what is untrue. And to help DIM WITTED children from bad homes to excel...

That is why I teach math... Because 1+1=2 (unless it is a haystack + a haystack, then you just have one (bigger) haystack, aight... And that is also why the students need to state it).

If you feel ill at ease still, let me just say that my last class scored the best... Like, THE best... Both when it came to maths and how they liked their time in school...





EDIT: I honestly think one of the reasons why I got so good results on all levels was that I had my class when we did geometry out in the snow, in teams, making stuff intead of handing them a textbook and telling them to read.

EDIT2: There is just such a difference between actually building a 1x1x1dm and building a 1x1x1m out in the snow. Sorry, I know I am out of line here... But this is something I burn for... You can accuse me of many things, but never for being a bad teacher or ski instructor... As I always have had more or less spectacular results.

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YES, students in their preteens can be quite dim witted. Do you seriously think an 11 year old will solve cancer anytime soon? The joy of teaching is to help separate what is true, from what is untrue. And to help DIM WITTED children from bad homes to excel...

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Condescension is the opposite of education.

No personal attacks.

Yes, I have let the odd remark slide before, as I don't want to be nitpicky, but blatant ignoring of the rules is a big no-no. As the thread has gone off-topic, it is a good time for it to go for a nap.