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No, to be clear: Michael Howard (a 74 year old arch-reactionary who hasn't been part of any government since 1997 and hasn't even been on the Conservative front bench for twelve years) made some vague remark about Thatcher and the Falklands which the meeja twisted into talking about war.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franconicus
Both of them boil down to ownership of teams by filthily rich tycoon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
That's Socialism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franconicus
You just lost the argument, sorry.
Capitalism is never wrong, the UK invented it.
Are you talking about how Putin's buddies own half the UK's football teams and half the apartments in central London?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilrandir
See above, Socialist argument, wrong, wrong, wrong!
Also ,even if you weren't wrong, it would be the EU's fault.
If it's not the EU's fault, it's the fault of Britain and its people being so awesome and successful.
Just like how the Germans were so awesome and successful in the 1920s and then the Bolshevik jews and the Capitalist jews brought the recession upon us by replacing all their teeth with gold or something, YES HITLER!
What were we talking about? :dizzy2:
Not sure if your indignation is genuine or you are trolling as usual. I was talking of a tendency evident in modern English football to sell clubs (or franchises as Americans call them) to rich foreigners - not neccessarily Russians, but Arabs as well. So the sports competition turns into a contest of wallets. The EU has nothing to do with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Husar
Husar using the phrase "Yes Hitler!" and you aren't sure?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilrandir
I think that's a pretty clear use of sardonic humor, for sooth.
My indignation at what? The one you're supposed to read very clearly between the lines or the superficial one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilrandir
I can assure you the only indignation in my post was directed straight towards English nationalists and purely hidden in very obvious sarcasm...
I take offence at the insinuation that I am usually trolling, that's a very trolly comment considering it always comes up in attempts to shut me up or enrage me. Sarcasm is not the same as trolling.
I apologize if you are offended. Let me rephrase my statement: Husar trolls more often than others here and I'm not always good at detecting it (especially if no emoticons are in evidence).Quote:
Originally Posted by Husar
Donald Trump reveals EU trade deal more important to US than deal with Britain after Brexit
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world...-a3521051.html
"oops"
You are not the only one with that issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilrandir
Husar is either cuttingly witty or not at all witty - I can't decide.
The latter pretending to be the former.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
I'm not sure whether that was a complete lack of response to my point or just a distracting ad-hominem now, I just can't decide...
Husar is a communist and thus devoid of all humanity.
I can't decide.
Keep mocking. There are many more Greyblades than there are Beskars.
I'm an noun now?
Figures it happens only once I'd started outgrowing that boyish desire for acknowledgement.
Same logic as I found with dating as a young fellow. Did miserably until I stopped giving a rat's patoot or trying. Then she chased me and I was married within two years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
Ah, if only all of life's successes could come without dogged persuit.
And pay attention that he used your name in plural whose form coincides with the singular. So now your are in one class with trout, salmon, deer, fish (should I mention swine?). Alternatively, since it has the s inflection you may be grouped together with glasses, scissors, braces (should I mention pants?). So pick one to your liking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
P.S. No offence intended. Just ruminations of a linguist.
Actually, that is false. Hard-line Brexiteers were estimated to be 17% of the vote, compared to the idea of 48% against leaving, and incorporating the large numbers who preferred soft-Brexit or believed promises plastered against the side of the bus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
So if the vote was based on values and what people actually knew what they were voting for, then Brexit would have not occurred.
There are also more Germans than Englishmen...Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
There are more a Russians than GermansQuote:
Originally Posted by Husar
You are guilty of a number of logical fallacies here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
1. The assumption that more information and/or more accurate information automatically leads to a uniform swing in favour of Remain.
How many Remainers are aware that the EU has three salaried Presidents, for the Commission, the Council and the Parliament?
How many Remainers are aware the EU Parliament has TWO buildings, one for debate and one for voting?
How many Remainers are aware of the theoretical exchange rate between the Euro and the German Mark or the Greek Drachma, and understand the implications?
Finally, how many have reviewed the economic data, particularly unemployment, for Southern Europe since the Eurozone banking crisis?
How many Remainers are aware that "ever closer Union" is written into the treaty of Rome?
2. You are assuming a clear division between hard-Brexiters, soft-Brexiters and Remainers. All the data appears to point in the other direction. Most people who voted Remain want some immigration controls, most who voted Brexit want access to EU markets. When forced to choose between the two slightly more people, irrc it was 51% chose Immigration Control over access - i.e. the referendum result.
3. You assume that Strike meant you to be emblematic of the Remain camp (and he know you aren't) and Greyblades to be emblematic on the Leave camp (clearly not, given that he holds different views to myself and Furunculus).
Are we still offering samples of grade three arithmetics tasks? Then no one will beat this: there are more Chinese than Russians, Germans and Englishmen taken together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
Labour's 'day one' pledge to EU nationals
Way to abandon your own people overseas, dumbass.Quote:
Labour says it would scrap Theresa May's Brexit plans and unilaterally guarantee the rights of EU residents before talks start, if it wins power.
Nope. The EU said it guarantees the right of Brits in Europe on condition that Europeans are protected here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
Theresa May on other hand is holding EU nationals hostage by not agreeing to this, as she wants to get further concessions from the EU for it. In fact, she is willing to go as far as abandoning Brits overseas in exchange to keeping this 'bargaining chip'. EU has said this is a red-line and they want this agreed before any negotiation.
So no, he is not the dumbass.
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Originally Posted by Greyblades
I believe their counterpoint would be that citizenship in the EU is protection enough.
Erm, no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
The Government said MONTHS ago that they would guarantee the rights of #EU nationals so long as Brussels reciprocated. Brussels refused to comment until we formally triggered Article 50.
From last November: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37997698
From July last year: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36707420
So what you just wrote was diametrically opposed to the facts.
It is Britain that has sought to guarantee reciprocal rights and the EU that has hedged.
There are more Chinese than Russians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
Come on, didn't even read to that before I replied, but yeah...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilrandir
I was going to say there are more Asians than Chinese east of India/Bangladesh, but it turns out there aren't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Husar
Yet India seems set to overtake China by the end of the decade.
And Georgia's population trend is to double in size within 2500 Years of Darkness.