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I can test that, but I think it has something to do with with the unit being defined as ARTILLERY. Maybe I can try changing that as well, although the AI then most likely won't have a clue on how to handle them in a siege.Quote:
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D'oh, forgot about the Artillery designation. Yeah, I'm sure that's it. Looking through the unit types, though, I wonder exactly what the artillery designation means. I mean, the special attack unit designations probably dictate whether or not they are pieces or part of an army on the strategic map, and I figure that the cavalry designation pertains to the mounts they ride, and maybe some other things in the hardcode, who knows, but I wonder about the artilley.
Well, looking at it, it probably means that the number of men in the entry are the figures which man the piece, and not the number of artilley units.
Btw, I am going to have to take some of the existing units out of the game to make way for some of the new ones in the next version, and I think I am going to take out some of the artillery units. At the moment, I plan on leaving out the types that can't turn, since these are the types I prefer if I can get them, and they are the most useless for the AI.
I can also set the AI building priority for Siege Engineers and Foundries to very low, as well as the weapons themselves, and this should take care of the AI building them, except where it takes over foreign provinces and this is all that's available. Oh, well, all I can do is try.
I plan to remove the Mortar, Siege-cannon, Bombard, Mangonel, and Ballista.
I plan to keep the Trebuchet so you can get something that can hit the walls from safety when assaulting strong castle types.
Removing the Ballista is in everyone's best interest, I hope you agree.
This will leave Catapults, Trebuchets, Demi-Culverins, Demi-cannons, Culverins and Serpentines.
Faisal, no problem with the Faris. Here is what I have for them now:
["Faris_desc"] {"With the passing of time, Islam came to play more and more of an effective role in the realm of Arabian chivalry. By 1115 A.D., 508 A.H., the first religious order of knights was created. This religious order is called Al Rabata, or "The Brotherhood". It has the basic Arab chivalry code at its heart, but adds to it an allegiance to Islam and to the Brotherhood. In Peace, the knights live in semi-isolation, devoting themselves to the cause of Islam and the Brotherhood. In battle, they are fine desert horse-archers, swift and sure on the attack, though lightly armoured."}
["DismountedFaris_desc"] {"These religious warriors form a deadly and flexible spine to the Jihad. Their armour is usually light, but this affords them mobility and does not restrict their slightly wild combat styles, their whirling blades proving particularly effective when charging into unprepared infidels."}
I have added Futuwwa to the Jihad-only list for version four, to give them an archer unit. If you have a better suggestion, I would always appreciate it.
Thanks alot,now they sound a lot more jihad types http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/tongue.gif
your mod is doing pretty well so far http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/smile.gif but i have one concern,without the seige cannon there will be a problem storming the larger castles(fortresses and citadels)...
WesW, I changed ARTILLERY to INFANTRY and now it all looks better. If I use 10 FMAA and 10 ballistas in a attack, the AI now pick 8 FMAA and 8 Ballistas in the first 16 lineup.Quote:
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Of coarse, the optimal situation would be if the AI in a siege used all artillery units in the first lineup, and none on the open battlefield.
I have now played 2 siege battles and 1 on a regular battlefield, and so far I have seen no problems. Actually, I even think the AI handled the artillery units better in the siege than before I'm probably just smoking something... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/smokin.gif
I fear though that more extensive testing may reveal some serious problem with this...
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I started a game in Early as Spanish in GA on normal. I will run over what happened and I have a question too.
Well to start things off I used .matteosartori. just to see how the factions were reacting. I didn't need to use it to cheat. Well an interesting thing happened. I was building up for a crusade to Palestine, I bribed El Cid and attacked Navarre with my King. Other than that I didn't do much, as I was trying to just sit back and see what happened. Well the English and French went at it again, no surprise. But an interesting thing happened. The English attacked Flanders and conquered it. A French counterattack saw the English King's army defeated and tied up in the castle. Since the King was tied up in the castle, ALL of England revolted, except for Scotland. I don't think it was a civil war; I noticed after it happened that, hey, England wasn't red. The English still held Aquatine, however.
The Danes and Swedes invaded England and the English in Scotland attacked Northumbria. Now England was equally divided between the Swedes, Danes, and English. Interesting.
I launched a successful Crusade to Palestine, and was rewarded with a nice little splash screen at the Crusade's success. Another interesting thing though. The turn I launched the Crusade, I went to move it to Cordoba. For some reason, the crusade unit "became" my mouse cursor. I clicked, and the Crusade disappeared completely. It was not in Leon (the place where I launched it from) nor was it in Cordoba. The next turn, it was back in Leon and moved normally.
The Russians have become the most militarily powerful. Every oher turn they send in about 5 stacks to break the siege of Constantinople, which the Byzantines keep losing. The French launched a Crusade to Tripoli but two provinces away they were defeated by the Turks. They are now in a period of massive civil war, about half their empire revolted and every now and then a new civil war will break out. They were also excommunicated for attacking Aragon so now and then a peasant revolt will pop up.
Everything's going great. It is a fun campaign. But on this one turn, it keeps crashing. I hit end turn and before the portraits come onscreen the game just freezes. I don't know what to do. It happened before at a particular battle, but I just retreated from the battle when I reloaded and it was fine.
Another thing I want to ask is for MM what file to load in the gnome editor to make changes to units. I want to double each units cost and upkeep but when I try to load the MM_full_unit_prod file as a Crusader_unit_prod11 file it just freezes. Am I loading the right file?
Thanks in advance.
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You can get the MM_unit_prod files to load in Gnome with an easy change.
The changes that Wes made to the file are in the explanations at the top of the page, he extended them and so they are longer than before and hence the incorrect formatting message that you get. To remedy this open your CRUSADER_UNIT_PROD11 and copy all of the information from the top of the page down to where it says DATA START. Now just paste that information over the header in MM_FULL_UNIT_PROD11 and save. It should now load in Gnome.
Do the same swap for the relevant BUILD_PROD13 files to get the building data to load.
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Ok, well I tried that, but it didn't seem to work. It still freezes up.
I copied the top of Crusader unit prod 11 and copied everything down to where it said "data start." I then loaded the MM_full_unit_prod file, and pressed enter at the top to make room for the copied part. I then copied it and attempted to load. It froze up ehwn it was loading unit "loading labels" or something similar. Ctrl-alt-delete says its not responding. I don't know where I'm going wrong.
Thank you for the help, though
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The Gnome editor requires that the units text have the exact number of tab spaces for all units that the Editor has programmed into its template. Well, the game runs fine, or should, without the extra tab spaces at the end of the units that CA added for the VI. These spaces specify the cost, era and faction availability for MP games. I haven't been worrying with these while editing the file, so I am sure there are units where I deleted these extra tabs because the data in them would occasionally mess up searches and such within the file.Quote:
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This is one reason that I encourage people to use a text editor like EditPlus2 for modding, rather than a set template like Gnome, especially if they plan on extensive modifications.
You can also just open the file in Wordpad and change the costs very easily. The cost and upkeep are the 3rd and 4th tabs, right after the unit name and type. I would recommend showing tabs and spaces to make sure you don't delete a tab by mistake, and turn off word wrap for this particular edit.
Where you describe the crash, I need to know if you made a typo or not.
It happened before at a particular battle, but I just retreated from the battle when I reloaded and it was fine.
Is the word "at" supposed to be in the sentence?
If it is, then I interpret you to mean that you have had these crashes in other games, and retreating worked then, but this time it didn't work.
If it is not supposed to be in the sentence, then I interpret it to mean that retreating worked in this game, and that this is the first time you have experienced a crash.
With both you and Quokka reporting crashes, it would be a great time to have you both give accounts of what units were in your forces. It would also be good if Ron could view your lineup and then load his game and see which factions had the same units in his game, and if they were able to invade the same province that you were attacking when your crash occurred.
Norseman, that's wonderful news about the Artillery designation. I have noticed before that both the units text and projectile text have places for entering the number of men in artillery units, and I thought that the game picked whichever one was larger, though in light of your findings it seems that the game actually ignores the units text entry.
Have you tried adding the Castle_Defender designation back to the artillery?
Another idea is to go back to my original idea of setting all the unit abilities to zero except for the last two, ASSAULT_COVER_CASTLE_ATTACK and Cover.
I am guessing as to what these two pertain to, though there is a good chance that the notes in the unitformations.txt, or one of the others in the Formations folder, will describe them.
There are other abilities designated as Assault and Assault_Cover, which I hope refer to the AI attack stacks for open battles. That would leave the last two designations for attacking castles and defending open battles, I hope. The AI seems to get accuracy bonuses for artillery in open battles, and the types which can turn have been real pains in some of my battles.
This is one reason I want to take out the static types, since these are never of any use to the AI. I'll try and keep the Siege Cannon in, if it is needed in certain situations.
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Thank you for your reply. I will try to sort this out as best I can without making it confusing:
I had regular MTW in July and August and something about my computer didn't like it very much. I would have frequent crashes in, and especially after battles, and an occasional strategy map crash. I assumed it was the video card. For my birthday, I got a new card (128 MB GE Force blah blah) and Viking Invaision. For a while (september-october) I would get occasional crashes. These crashes would be inconvieniently related to certain circumstances. For example, if on a certain turn I had 3 battles involving certain armies, the game would freeze after the last battle. By simply loading the autosave and retreating from the battle, things would be fine. Mysteriously, the crashes stopped altogether for a period of about a month. I downloaded your mod at the release of the version 3.0 and the patches, and things were almost fine. In one campaign, however I couldn't continue due to being unable to retreat (castle siege). I was forced to abandon the game altogether. There were about two more sets of the rare-curcumstance related crashes but they were all resolved by retreating. After the 3.10 updates it was fine. Now that Spanish game has had two crashes. One was the rare-circumstance-related crash, which I was referring to when I said it happened before at a paricular battle, but I just retreated from the battle and it was fine. The second one happened after I hit 'end turn' and it crashed before the portraits were displayed. I reloaded it several times and the same thing happened. The next day I tried reloading and it worked fine. Other than that, I have had no recent crashes.
Well that was exhausting. Anyway I just wanted you to know it could or could not be related to your mod, it could just be my pc. My specs are 900 Mhz celeron with 128 meg GEforce and 3-hundred-something MB of RAM.
Ok, that makes me feel better about the mod. All the new units and so-forth probably make the game take up more RAM than normal, which could explain the crashes. With under 400megs of RAM, you may need to drop back to the lower map resolution if you can. The reason it worked sometimes and not others is probably due to other programs you had loaded and/or running in the background. I think that most games build up clutter as they run, too, so simply quitting and re-starting may sometimes clear things up.
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Just FYI, I run the strategy map in 600x800, and all battles in 640x480. I never load stuff in the backround or alt-tab. Quitting and reloading is probably a good idea and I'll try to try it more often.
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HI Wes, I tired to send you an email, but it returned to me dou to some server spam protection...The email was like this:
Hi, first of all, I appreciate your work dearly.You've done a great job.
But that's not important now. The reason I write to you is the campaign I played today.It was late/expert/Turks.I've gotten into conflict with Egyptians
and captured Tripoli, which I abandoned the next turn.I went for Palestine.I started to prepare a Jihad there for Tripoli.After five turns and few skirmishes with the Italians
I marked Tripoli as the target province and added some artillery to the Jihad.The next turn I successfully fought a battle for Tripoli.The greater was my surprise the turn after the battle when I discovered that all my Jihad units were now normal, even though I was still besieged the castle.However under the Jihad marker I now had a new army of very few Chevaliers, Gredamers , Voulingers and Mounted Sergeants. When I right-clicked the Jihad it's commander had loyalty to Burgundians and his piety was full of catholic crosses.Weird.Needless to say, Tripoli was 99% Muslim.
Does it have something to do with Tripoli being Burgundian homeland in high era?If you tell me how to make a screenshot I would send you one.
By the way how's your work going on v.3.15?Can I expect it soon?
Ahoj
Press CTRL-PrtScr to make a screencapture. Then paste it into a graphics program, and save...
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Or press F2 and look in your TGAs folder.Quote:
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It seem I can't post the picture without uploading it to internet, which is much of a drag to me.So if you wish to see it, just say so(either here or via email) and I can mail it to you.
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Any word on how the completeing/testing is going?
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I installed the MedMod 3.14 recently. Everything fine till now with one big exception:
In Single Player - Campaigns there is only the MM_Early campaign. High MA and Late MA don't appear.
I am playing the MM-Early campaign and till now it runs well.
Must be a mistake in High.txt and Late.txt? Strange. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/dizzy.gif
Does anybody have the same problem or, better yet, a solution?
This may be a bit to simple. But did you scroll down in the campaign menu?
westland...yes, jsut scroll down.
i was also wondering when the new version would be comin out. i havent seen wes in this thread, or the campaign map thread in a while. hope he's doing well.
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Wes, I've been asking in the wrong thread, but will you please rename the Byzantines to the correct "Roman"?
Uuh, I'm not sure. I will try when I'm back home. I will knock myself down if this would have been the "problem" http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...embarassed.gifQuote:
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Annother question: creating new units in MedModMTW. Has anybody done this?
I tried it, but failed. I used the "regular" method to create new units: copying/renaming/pasting every file in the relevant folders.
Nothing happens. No crash, the unit simply doesn't appear in the recruitment panel.
I tried it again with two other units. This time I made parallel steps in my MTWMedMod-folder and my normal MTW-folder. I changed cusader-unit-prod etc. in "C/Programme/Total War/Medieval-Total war" and made the same steps with MM-full-unit-prod etc. in my folder "C/Programme/Total War MedMod/Medieval-Total War".
In the normal MTW I got the new unit everytime. In MTWMedMod I got nothing. What is wrong? Something more/different to be done? Or is the MM-full-unit-prod already "full"?
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Simply you can't at the moment. The CRUSADER_PROD11 can only accomodate 256 entries and thats where it is at the moment, so while your new unit is in the text file it isn't recognised in game. Try removing some units to get below the 256 threshold and your unit should appear.
Some good candidates for removal are the second level conversion units, Cardinal, Orthodox Bishop and Imam. I have only once used them and that was only to see what they looked like, I have never seen tha AI use them.
Unfortunately, I have been ill the last ten days or so, and have not felt like doing any work, or even getting online in the few hours a day that I didn't spend in bed.Quote:
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No one knows what the problem is at the moment. I seem to be getting a little stronger the last couple of days, but this latest affliction may be tied to a chronic problem of mine that usually appears every Thursday or Friday, so I'll just have to pray that I don't go downhill again this week.
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Wes, I've been asking in the wrong thread, but will you please rename the Byzantines to the correct "Roman"?
Nope, not gonna do it; wouldn't be prudent. (For those of you who remember the elder Bush's presidency.) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg.../gc-jester.gif
The Byzantines spoke Greek, not Latin, and were Orthodox Christians, not Catholic. I think there was some more things that came to mind when I saw your request in the other thread, but I can't recall them at the moment.
Sorry about forgetting to address your question earlier.
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It seem I can't post the picture without uploading it to internet, which is much of a drag to me.So if you wish to see it, just say so(either here or via email) and I can mail it to you.
If you a graphics program that can alter tga's, use it to cut out the relative portion of the screen and just upload that part.
Btw, there will be on 3.15 version of the mod. The next version will be the 4.0 beta. My illness has obviously cost us a lot of time as far as putting it together, but I hope that the strategic map discussion has progressed without me.
I have just about all of the work done on the units and factions, including descriptions of the new, notable minor factions in the faction descriptions readme. When I get the last of that done, I'll post the readme as a preliminary faction lineup, like I did for the initial version 3 beta. I think everyone is going to be blown away by it, as there have been huge changes to many factions, as well as dozens of other changes/improvements to the game.
Well, good to hear from you and get well soon.
Sure, go ahead and email it to me. Use the link at the bottom of this post.Quote:
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I remember stuff like this happening before, but it was several months ago at least, and I can't recall if it was even a medmod problem for sure.
Some posted a couple of weeks or so ago and reported a similar glitch with Jihads, I believe.
Were the Burgundians still alive when this occurred? If not, this may be some weird glitch with faction re-emergence, which, as you know, has a bug or two associated with it that has nothing to do with the Medmod.
Hey WesW
Been playing the mod alot now and im really enjoying it. Wouldnt dream of playing the game without it now. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/bigthumb.gif
Nice to see that there will be another version out, looking forward to it.
Just wondering; what changes will there be to the swedish faction? namnes and flags and so on?
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Just a quick question for you wes.
This mod is not an overwrite correct? I hope it isnt.
Minikiller: No, it isnt; the regular campaign can be played but will use the unit names and the projectile stats of the MedMod...
wait so umm. could u give me an example of what u mean? thanks