Medieval: Total War XL

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Quote[/b] (tombom @ June 26 2004,19:01)]Looks brilliant VH, the only trouble is I won't be able to download the full version because I have 56k. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/frown.gif

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Hmm, how big a file is the max for you to downloade? Im going to make a small version and a big version, both with autoinstall. The small version will not have an updated background map with the new province names, no new music and other trimming. This should make the mod much smaller.

The XL mod 2.0 will probely be an overwrite mod, becouse a lot of files needs to be included if it should be an addon(battlemaps, portrates, lots of pics). The big mod will be about 100 mb as a overwrite, but as an addon it will be about 250 mb What I think i'll do, is make the old game have the new provinces included. I hope people kan live with that. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/ceasarno.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg.../ceasaryes.gif

Make it an overwrite then. 250mb is just too big. With 3d downloads, probably the most I can download is 50mb -if I'm lucky.

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Quote[/b] (tombom @ June 27 2004,12:04)]Make it an overwrite then. 250mb is just too big. With 3d downloads, probably the most I can download is 50mb -if I'm lucky.

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OK, a small overwrite version will be about 16Mb, so it will be ok.

Great MOD http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/bigthumb.gif

Although I can't comment Your version 2.0, neither say what there should be or not, I would only like to express my opinion about some things.

Dismount option should be commonly accessible to most of cavaleries not only in sieges.

I am more concerned about pagan Lithuanians, but this could also be a case with other non-catholic factions. There should be some kind of swordsmen (or macemen) Russians have Druzhina cavalry, that can be turned into feudal swordsmen (which is, I think, a bit of disbalance). It is very problematic to define something as certain as feudal men-at-arms etc. for catholics, but having just spearmen is too disbalanced.

I also know for sure that historically Lithuanians had access to steppe cavalries. There are still peoples of steppes - Karaim and Tatars living in Lithuania, whose ancestors were brought to Lithuania by Great Duke Vitautas.

I also do not understand, why Lithuanian faction does not have an access to Bulgarian brigands. Bulgarians are yet another steppe people.

Province of Lithuania could be divided, since the size it has in Total War was acquired in certain perion, but in pagan period it would be exaggarated to place all this land under Lithuanian kings' influence.

AI, AI, AI - whatever You do to balance the sides, do balance AI - it just risks too little (at least to attack me) I have played Danes a lot of times and constantly left my beginning provinces empty for massive attacks on Eastern coast of Baltic sea, but HRE never attacked. May be it was not worth attacking another catholic faction, but there were similar situations also when I played non-catholic factions.
AI is also not very good in improving its provinces and armies - what can it do against my army production machine, when I produce several high quality units (usually with a lot of improvements) per turn, but they have just few for the whole game).
As 2.0 is probably going to become a overwrite version, please, include as many AI changes, making it harder, as possible.

Your mod rules http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/barrel.gif

Gooday Viking Horde ,firstly I must say Ive been silently following the progress of your Mod and looking forward to it as well .
Ok , just elaborating/deviating slightly on the point brought up by tombom , when released could I buy/donate the funds required to you , and have a full 250Mb disc sent to me ?.....
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It looks great - is there a timeframe?

The screenshots were very very nice. Just a little question. Is Great and Little Poland based on historic names. If not then maybe Upper and Lower would be better? At least change Little to Lesser (and maybe Great to Greater).

Wow - lots of exclamationmarks in that post :p

VH,
Regarding the division of Poland I´ve two names for you although they don´t exactly match the borders you´re using.
The one to the NW could be named Poznan and the one to the SW Wielkopolska. Now, if my memory is not failing me Warsaw is in the later one which means that my name-suggestion isn´t entierly correct.
I recall sending you a European map a while back. In that one you´ll see what I´m aiming at.

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Quote[/b] (VikingHorde @ June 26 2004,09:47)]Some more pics
http://www.legiontotalwar.com/forums...1088260445.jpg
Poland is devided in two

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If I may interfere:

This division in fine. The names are also quite good. It'd be better to name the two provinces Greater Poland and Lesser Poland tho (or in case you want to use original names they're respecively Wielkopolska and Malopolska). Lesser Poland was generally more important and there was the capital (of Polish state I mean) - Krakow. In the medieval period there was no Warsaw yet, it became a town somewhere in the renaissance period. A capital for Greater Poland should be probably Poznan and be located more to the west. However if you don't want to move the capital of Greater Poland from where it is, it should be named Plock (tho it was really a capital of Mazovia provinvce, but since there's no Mazovia...). Anyway that was a word from a Pole, you do what you want with it.

Regards,
EC

I was hoping you´d answer EC since I know you got the facts straight when it comes to Polish history. Good luck with the XVI-XVII mod and sorry you had to leave us.

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Quote[/b] (Eastside Character @ July 01 2004,15:04)]If I may interfere:

This division in fine. The names are also quite good. It'd be better to name the two provinces Greater Poland and Lesser Poland tho (or in case you want to use original names they're respecively Wielkopolska and Malopolska). Lesser Poland was generally more important and there was the capital (of Polish state I mean) - Krakow. In the medieval period there was no Warsaw yet, it became a town somewhere in the renaissance period. A capital for Greater Poland should be probably Poznan and be located more to the west. However if you don't want to move the capital of Greater Poland from where it is, it should be named Plock (tho it was really a capital of Mazovia provinvce, but since there's no Mazovia...). Anyway that was a word from a Pole, you do what you want with it.

Regards,
EC

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Thanks for the info EC, I will make the corrections. I will allso move the castle (just need to find my map on the HD).

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I was never aware that the MTW community was so active, and I had just checked this forum out by chance... Luckily I found your scenario, which is simply great; it adds more depth and creates a more challenging gaming experience.

I was wondering when you had plans to release your 2.0 Version?

Btw, if you need help on provences, bounderies, and nations I have a mapping program that has a historicle compilation of medieval borders in a month by month basis.

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Quote[/b] (Dextarious @ July 02 2004,04:09)]Btw, if you need help on provences, bounderies, and nations I have a mapping program that has a historicle compilation of medieval borders in a month by month basis.

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Wow How far back does it go?

It starts at 1000 A.D. and ends at 1996

It's a program called Centennia

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Quote[/b] (Dextarious @ July 02 2004,13:22)]It starts at 1000 A.D. and ends at 1996. It's a program called Centennia.

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Do you have a link to it. Is it commercial, shareware, freeware or...?

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Quote[/b] (Dextarious @ July 02 2004,11:09)]I was never aware that the MTW community was so active, and I had just checked this forum out by chance... Luckily I found your scenario, which is simply great; it adds more depth and creates a more challenging gaming experience.

I was wondering when you had plans to release your 2.0 Version?

Btw, if you need help on provences, bounderies, and nations I have a mapping program that has a historicle compilation of medieval borders in a month by month basis.

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It's a cool little program you got there, very good. I could use maps of europe in the start of early(1087), high(1205) and late period(1320). My map is allmost done, only need to add one province but have taken a break from mapmaking and made some units.
I hope to complete the mod in 1½ week or so, becouse most of the mod is finished (most of the work is adding new units). Im allmost done adding new units for the serbs, so they will get 3 new units (maybe 4). The scots are allso allmost done. The byzantines have gotten a new heavy cav unit and the french will get a new FMAA unit. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/tongue.gif

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Quote[/b] (Dextarious @ July 02 2004,20:22)]It starts at 1000 A.D. and ends at 1996

It's a program called Centennia

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Cool, did not know that kind of program were made. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/tongue.gif

Well, its a program that costs $100 Dollars http://www.clockwk.com/

I got it for free though, you see where it says (Download Napoleonic Trial), I clicked on that and instead of the trial version, I recieved the full version, it was of course by accident and they realized it within a couple of days.

Heres an image of when the Tuetons first graced the stage, and the year that the mongols destroyed Russia.
You may want to give Tuetons Livonia, considering they had it through the bulk of their being, it was passed onto them by the previous knights of the sword, another German crusading expedition.

http://i.domaindlx.com/dexbwv/1237Europe.bmp

My image hosting seems to be down, heres a link, http://i.domaindlx.com/dexbwv/1237Europe.bmp

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Quote[/b] (Dextarious @ July 02 2004,20:59)]My image hosting seems to be down, heres a link, http://i.domaindlx.com/dexbwv/1237Europe.bmp

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Ok, I have just given the program a try and it's great. Thanks for the help, it's very usefull http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...-2thumbsup.gif

It says in the file readme, that the Teutons, and the Crusaders are new added nations, yet I dont see them as selectable, nor do I see them in game, would you have any idea why?

Can I install this mod when I already have BKB's super mod installed? Or won't the two go together?

Sorry if this is a stupid question but I really don't know.

Once again - great mod

The point about giving Livonia to Teutonic order is quite right. At least since 1236 when Brethren of the Sword order suffered heavy casualties in the battle of Saule (still not known where the place exactly was - in Latvia or Lithuania) and had to join with Teutonic order. Thus becoming a branch of the latter called Livonian order.

Although on the other hand factually Livonia and the Livonian order were independent political units.

The choice is Yours, but I would say, that for the sake of gameplay Livonia should be made province of Teutonic order.

Kaspars

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Quote[/b] ]It says in the file readme, that the Teutons, and the Crusaders are new added nations, yet I dont see them as selectable, nor do I see them in game, would you have any idea why?

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The crusaders and teutonic order can only be played in High and late period, so that proberly it (I hope).

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Quote[/b] ]Can I install this mod when I already have BKB's super mod installed? Or won't the two go together?

Sorry if this is a stupid question but I really don't know.

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I don't think they can, becouse they share a lot of files. These files will be overwriten.

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Quote[/b] ]Once again - great mod

The point about giving Livonia to Teutonic order is quite right. At least since 1236 when Brethren of the Sword order suffered heavy casualties in the battle of Saule (still not known where the place exactly was - in Latvia or Lithuania) and had to join with Teutonic order. Thus becoming a branch of the latter called Livonian order.

Although on the other hand factually Livonia and the Livonian order were independent political units.

The choice is Yours, but I would say, that for the sake of gameplay Livonia should be made province of Teutonic order.

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The Brethren of the Sword did not have mutch succes and became a part of the Teutonic order very early. Thats why I made them the teutonic order. I try to balance gameplay with history, so it was one of the choises I made. They have livonia in high period, livonia and prusia in late period.
Livonia was another hard choise. Lithuania can be played in all periods, but they should only be there in High and late period acording to history. Here I made the choise to have them in early period, becouse I need their raiding on other factions.

No, I looked in the high period as well for Teutons and Crusaders, neither were there to select, also the only campaign I see that has an XL on it is Early, the rest just say Viking, and high, for some reason there isnt even a late period to select? I've reinstalled your mod, and still nothing. It's just the Teutons and the Crusaders that do not work, is it by chance you uploaded an older version of your scenario to download recently by accident? (I downloaded it just two days ago).

Looking sweet.

When this mod comes out I'm gonna try to simple add it to my current MTW (With BKB's mod) I know many (most...er all) of ayou say it cant be donebut I put BKB's in and it effected nothing else, as long as all the files are named different I see no reason why this wouldnt work just the same.

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Quote[/b] (Dextarious @ July 03 2004,20:37)]No, I looked in the high period as well for Teutons and Crusaders, neither were there to select, also the only campaign I see that has an XL on it is Early, the rest just say Viking, and high, for some reason there isnt even a late period to select? I've reinstalled your mod, and still nothing. It's just the Teutons and the Crusaders that do not work, is it by chance you uploaded an older version of your scenario to download recently by accident? (I downloaded it just two days ago).

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It sounds odd, becouse the mod has been out for more than a mounth without any problems. You should see the mod listed as Early XL, High XL and late XL. Please check the meny again and click the meny down.

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Quote[/b] (MiniKiller @ July 03 2004,21:07)]Looking sweet.

When this mod comes out I'm gonna try to simple add it to my current MTW (With BKB's mod) I know many (most...er all) of ayou say it cant be donebut I put BKB's in and it effected nothing else, as long as all the files are named different I see no reason why this wouldnt work just the same.

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The problem is in the names.txt file (and maybe some other ones). My mod uses other names and factions, so the mod will proberly not work with other mods installed. You could inter all the faction/names info from on BKB's mod and put it into names file of the XL mod, but it will be a lot of work. The problem get even bigger with the 2.0 version, becose the unit battle animations are changed.

True true although BKB had whole new factions, colors and units etc and it doesnt effect the old campaigns at all.

i'll give it a shot and see what happens.

Wow, I thought that I was semi-capable of realizing things of the most basic nature, but appearantly I should not be allowed to operate a computer.

I didnt scroll down the menue's because my mind was selectivly stuck in the old setup, and I didnt even see that I could scroll down until you mentioned it.
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After scrolling down, they magically appeared to be all there... though I was just as sad at myself as I was happy that I fixed the problem. Great scenario though, I especially like the flags/sheild additions you made, it shows the true measure of work put into the mod.

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Quote[/b] ]I especially like the flags/sheild additions you made, it shows the true measure of work put into the mod.

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I second that, the new flags and faction shields are nothing short of beautiful. Keep up the good work http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/gc-smile.gif