Pics & History of your EB Empire

Here's an update from my Sweboz campaign, which I finished out today.

A.D. 5-14: My people, now having shown Rome the folly of invading a land of people far more cunning in the way of the forest, I decide to act on my part of the bargain. I am to attackt the Sauromate, who have been raiding Roman cities in Armenia and along the northern anatolian shore of the Black Sea.

I send spies into the vast steppes, only to find the most impressive suprise I've ever had in R:TW, vanilla or modded.

My spies come upon what can only be called a 'migration': 24 full stack armies. And every one is moving in a large line westward. Needless to say, my Kunningaz [not to mention myself] nearly crapped his pants.

I figured, hell, there's eight years left in the game, so why not have fun?

I pull every man who can stand-up, see lightning, and hear thunder, into the service of the Kunningaz. My army surges to 135,000 men. Still roughly only equal to a little more than half of the combined might of the Sauromate tribes.

The Sauromate tribes cross the Danube in A.D. 9. They smash the entire force of the Getai armies, but refuse to even look at thier cities. They then turn north, and cross the frozen Danube going north in the winter of 9.

The army, no longer in a line, is now quite bunch together, and moving in near tandem into my easternmost lands[I saved my game here, and you'll see why...]. The Sweboz Confederation would not tolerate this. The Sauromate continue to move northwest. Finally, in the summer of A.D. 10, the entire populations of two massive nations clash on the fileds of present day Poland.

135,000 men against 238,450 men. My computer hated every minute of this. It took me roughly seven hours to get through this battle, enjoying it thoroughly, despite the fact that the lag would have put anybody's claims of a slow processor to shame.

Every last Sauromate man died. Thier entire royal family died, leaving what is apparently a distant cousin of the King's uncle the ruler. His nation now had a population consisting overwhemingly of women, as realisticly, 97% of the Sauromate male population died on the fields of southern Poland.

Shortly after the battle ended and it proclaimed heroic victory, my game ended with a glorious CTD.

I can think of no better way of rounding of a game that had lasted me for nearly 300 years.

*And those numbers on that battle? Not exaggerated at all.



-------If I'm correct, my battle qaulifies as the largest R:TW battle ever played out. Book o' World Records anyone?

-------I'm currently trying to upload the save game to a download site, but it's failing everytime.

How could that have happened? Only a max of 9 armies can go one one field...

He lies, that's how.

How generic. Biggest battle ever and the save won't upload.:laugh4: :inquisitive: ~:rolleyes:

C'mon, give him a little benefit of a doubt. He's shown no propensity for it so far that I've seen. And anyway, even if it was a lie, it's an entertaining one. :grin:

We'll see if he can get it uploaded. If he can't there's no prize anyway even if he had been able.

24 full stacks is what, Roughly 72,000 men? Plus only 9 stacks can take part in one battle. Plus the steppes despite difficulty and script cannot support such as army even with epic cities. Plus there is a hard coded number of men who can be in a battle, so not so many men can be in the battle. Only thing that makes sense is if he does as many do and see each man on the field as representing 10 and treats multiple battles as the same uber battle.
Joined with perfect Roman expansion and save game not uploading. I can't believe such a thing could happen.

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Originally Posted by Sdragon

24 full stacks is what, Roughly 72,000 men? Plus only 9 stacks can take part in one battle. Plus the steppes despite difficulty and script cannot support such as army even with epic cities. Plus there is a hard coded number of men who can be in a battle, so not so many men can be in the battle. Only thing that makes sense is if he does as many do and see each man on the field as representing 10 and treats multiple battles as the same uber battle.
Joined with perfect Roman expansion and save game not uploading. I can't believe such a thing could happen.

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You got one part right. It was a series of battles that occured directly one after another. That's probably one of the reasons the computer crashed directly after thae last battle. Each battle had I believe seven reinforcing Sauromate armies, while I had one stacfk for each, all due to posistioning along the tiles. I counted it as one battle, due it occuring during an "end turn".

I'll explain. The Sauromate had pushed as far south as the Arabian peninsula. Baktria and India were also under their control. So were the lands of the Pahlav and the eastern Seleukid Empire. They had plenty of money to fund this. And apparently, they went steadily bankrupt for about ten years after A.D. 1, indicating that they were funding for troops. The chart screen showed they went from being the richest nation, with about 900,000 mnai. That dropped to zero within ten years.

Don't exactly believe the numbers, those are within a +/- 25,000 of the actual number, as I tried to figure out how many troops were fighting, and my addition skills aren't up to par.

Do you see where I'm going yet?

As for the save game, I'm still trying to upload it, but I belive the CTD is doing something strange. I do have a screen shot from one of the battles though, so give me a little while and I'll post that. I actually have two, the one I jsut stated, plus another from the battle preceding that.

i'd love to see some campaign map shots from this...it sounds like there were only about 4 factions left, and it'd be something else to see that many stacks together. do you have an earlier save-game you could try loading?

If you can get me a screenshot of the campaign map, then that would be brilliant! Even after if they were historical battles.

It's easy to upload..

http://www.rapidshare.de

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How could that have happened? Only a max of 9 armies can go one one field...

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:book:
Not really, you can switch to 'unlimitted men on battlefied', only limitted by your system itself, by altering the apropiate line in the preferences.txt file.

Since my system doesn't even chew hughe units, I never make use of it: I rather play with 'real' size units than with unlimitted amount of units. Moreover my system would simply refuse to and get stuck, I suppose. :skull:

But to all who want to give it a try: :2thumbsup: .

a very small update to my KH campaign:

MAKEDONIA CAPTA!!!

https://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5483/immaginevh3.jpg

and this is to remember two pasted enemies, now Tarsos is a rebel town, hope Ptolemaioi will not attempt to take it...it is still a usefull barrer against them... (in fact i didn't want to destroy Ponto, i just had a battle with their last Family Member so they disappeared, and Tarsos become rebel..)

https://img77.imageshack.us/img77/1577/immagine2ej1.jpg

3 faction out... im becoming to feel as a collector... :laugh4: I want them all!

what a pity that with Pahlava i cant have the same good results... ah money wretched moneys....

Half the fun is the struggle. Your Pahlava aar would have been less fun if it wasn't for the ups and downs. I don't like seeing the enemy utterly slaughtered in every battle. Speaking of which, since RTR forum is back and your aar posts are still there. What are you going to do?

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Originally Posted by Sdragon

Half the fun is the struggle. Your Pahlava aar would have been less fun if it wasn't for the ups and downs. I don't like seeing the enemy utterly slaughtered in every battle. Speaking of which, since RTR forum is back and your aar posts are still there. What are you going to do?

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yes i know, anyway this wasn't too easy as it seems (i had a really bad time with Ptolemcs and Seleuks:duel: , cause the settings as i sayd, their elites Phalanxemen were almost invunerable, i had a break thanks to Pontos interposed by me and Ptolems after i conquered their last town in western Anatolia)
Now i really dont dare to conquer that rebel town of Tarsos cause i dont want to meet Kleurikoi Agema anymore (at last when in some next campaign i will set on Medium difficult...). Anyway i noticed that in VH battles, the more bad affected are your Horse Archer and Cavalry (the charge even from the back is often useless), so you are right KH campaign is easier...
Regarding the AAR, well, i gave a look at the new forums and they are still there, but the title is screwed and it seems only moderators can post in aar subforums for now... and in fact there is already some moderator who posted...
Anyway when i will be able to post there i will add the 2 installements i posted here, and for furhter one, pheraphs i will post here and there...
Their forum are on-line and i love it, but i like the familar athmosphere here too... and last, im an EB fan upon all:bow:

An update on my simply slow-but-steady Casse campaign...

RULES:
I ONLY play battles when a general is present. Captains are on their own in the auto-calc world.

CURRENT ALLIES:
Karthadast and Arverni

CURRENT ENEMIES:
Romani

CURRENT WORRIES:
Sweboz hordes massing on the Germanic Frontier...looks like my Aedui protectorates are gonna have a fight on their hands...

CURRENT PAIN IN MY @$$:
Iberian spies. I don't like red faces.

https://img158.imageshack.us/img158/...apcassecw5.jpg

After being betrayed by the Arverni during the Aedui wars, Barae got pissed. Diplomacy is disgustingly overrated, he decided.

After sacking Bibracte yet again and slaughtering its people, the Aedui were forced to submit to permanent Casse rule, becoming client tribes (protectorate), as well as nifty buffers between Germanic and Arverni frontiers.

Now that Barae was free to focus on the treacherous Arverni, Burdigala - their only port city - received a full-force whack from the Casse war machine. It wasn’t long before the Arverni dogs, already at war with the Romani of the southlands, were scrambling for a ceasefire.

A couple years passed. Barae conquered the meager tribes of Vocallra, yearning to see the fabled Mediterranean ocean that he’d dreamed of since conquering Gallic Britain in the good old days. He saw those white shores, and dreamed of peace…and then a cowardly Romani assassin attempted to kill him in his sleep. To war!

In the following five years, after a brutal tug-of-war across the coastline of Vocallra and Greceoallra (or the Greco Coast, as the Casse called it), Massalia fell to the might of the Casse. Barae happily slaughtered the boot-loving Greeks that lived there, bringing a grand and rich city into Casse hands and paying for the campaign ten times over.

This same year, the ever-so-annoying pirates of the North Sea were finally crushed, allowing the disbandment of the fleet. Quarter-annual profit shot from around 5K minai to around 15K+ minai, no small feat!

Barae was not finished with the treacherous Romani, however. In a daring incursion into Italy itself, Barae sacked Segesta and left no structure standing, bringing even more great wealth to the already wealthy Casse Empire (current treasury totals are around 200,000 minai).

Though Barae intended to leave Segesta as soon as the snows left the ground, to live out his days in Massalia, this was not to be. Barae, Conqueror of Caledonia, King of the Goldis, ravager of the Gallic coast and killer of Romans, fell to a Roman assassin’s blade that very winter at the ripe old age of 71, sending shock waves throughout the fledgling empire.

The leaderless army left Segesta to stew in its own filth the following spring, intent on carrying Barae’s remains back to Massalia for a hero's burial. After intense fighting with Romans in the mountain passes, they succeeded, though morale was extremely low, and many men were lost.

Good thing Barae’s young and influential grandson, a gifted commander and stout tactician, was just arriving in Massalia that very spring…

Bravo!! :2thumbsup:

Nice map too.

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yup, i'll echo the sentiments that your map and presentation were pretty danged awesome.

plus its glad to hear that there are still not-a-yanks living in atl

I want a map like that!!! and great banner too:2thumbsup:
BTW it is a very good think to have gauls as a barrer against the nasty sweboz...i could suggest to not face them until you have some very trained units... i have only problems when i meet them...

edit: i noticed that you got all your infos without toggling off the fog of war, so it was a work of diplomacy... nice!

Oh yes, that's the world according to Casse circa 223. I love my fow.
And I got the inspiration for my banner from yours, actually:2thumbsup:

ah thanks, the too guys on the first-plane seem to have some resemblance... pheraphs they are a sort of causins, who can know...they could meet a day:laugh4:

salut from the wastelands!

edit: i too, never toggle-off the fow, I like to use (when i can afford) spyes and diplomats to get map infos, just like you.

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edit: i too, never toggle-off the fow, I like to use (when i can afford) spyes and diplomats to get map infos, just like you.

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Me to I like discovering the northern steppe tribes and so on but I am looking forward to when the map is partially reveled where historically accurate such as the Seleukids knowing where everything is in Greece for example.

Great AAR Discoskull! :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:

I look forward to more.

At least you had a map to prove your story, contrary to someone else. :sweatdrop:

Diskosull how did you persuade then to become a protectorate. I have tried in many campaigns but their "freedom is precious". Even if Iam ready to exterminate them

I took their capitol city and offered it back to them in exchange.
edit: along with 10,000 mnai - it was worth it for all those "buffer provinces"

Thnx

Another update on that Casse campaign, which as gone from slow and steady to something of a blitzkrieg...

CURRENT ALLIES: Karthadast and Arverni

CURRENT ENEMIES: Romani and [what's left of] Iberia

CURRENT WORRIES: The new alliance between the Romani and the Sweboz Empire. Romani dogs. I hate them. And those Sweboz are spreading like a juice stain...

CURRENT RELIEF: The Sweboz are busy fighting vicious Thracians and the Greeks in the far east, and the last thing they'd want to endanger is their western border.

214 BC
https://img371.imageshack.us/img371/...mapcopyha5.jpg

I know it may not look as if much as changed, but the map has been rather malleable of late, thanks to constant warfare with the Romani dogs.

The Romani Wars: 228 BC - ?

First Invasion
https://img176.imageshack.us/img176/...215copyia6.jpg
(by the way, those are famous battles, though the one near Segesta was Barae...)

Carratocuros dyn Nimmall, a promising general, superb administrator, and all around influential guy, arrived in Massalia in 223 BC just in time to learn of his grandfather's murder at the hands of a Romani assassin. Carratocuros is not so happy.

When summer came and his armies were replenished, Carratocuros invaded Italy full force, using the southern route through the coastal wilderness, rather than the guarded mountain passes.
The Romans, though their armies were many, were not prepared for Carratocuros's vicious onslaught. Medilanum falls within the year.

The following spring, Sennianos ar Carvetae arrived, newly married into the family from Caledonia.
Though Sennianos was no scholar, he was a vigorous commander - a hammer to use against the Romani.
Segesta and Bononia fell the next year, and finally, at the Battle of Medilanum in 218 BC - when the Romani attempted to take the city back with an army from Aventicos (looks like those foolish man-worshipers, the Arverni, can't even take a single isolated settlement) - Roman military might in northern Italy was crushed.

If Patavium had fallen, it would have spelled the definitive end of Roman power in the north...

https://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2964/battle4ke4.jpg

This glorious victory was to be short-lived, however.

The following year, the Romani of the south (2 full legions) decided that the meek Carthegenians weren't as much of a threat as the marauding Celts.
They arrived in northern Italy led by an uber 4-star general (who suddenly gained 3 stars when he attacked :wall: ).

They bypassed Bononia and met the Casse army under Sennianos as he marched towards Patavium. For all Carratocuros's virtues, he forgot about using spies...

Summer, 215 BC - The Battle of Venetia
Though the tough and experienced army under Sennianos fought bravely and killed many Romani dogs, it was no use; they were outnumbered, outclassed, and their battle line was cut in half. Sennianos himself fell in battle. Turns out that hammer came from Wal-Mart.
The remaining warriors knew it was certain death to stand and fight...but they were slaughtered as they attempted to withdraw.
As a silver lining, the Roman general was killed in a scuffle as he attempted to ride down the last of the retreating Britons.

The shattered army joined Carratocuros's forces in Medilanum.
The leaderless Romani immediately laid siege to Medilanum, and Carratocuros found himself fighting, not for conquest, but for survival.

He and his son - newly come of age under the Roman siege - managed to break free of the Romani dogs in the winter of 215 BC, but the damage done at the Battle of Venetia had already taken hold. The Romani were regrouping, and Casse power in the region had been cut in half and was falling fast.

Seeing no other alternative but meaningless death, the (literally) battle weary Carratocuros abandoned northern Italy. He and his remaining forces returned to Massalia to regroup. The mountain passes are much easier to defend, after all...but that doesn't take away the stinging fact that he had failed to take Italy.



The Iberian War: 218 - ?
(a mere footnote compared to the happenings in Italy)

Meanwhile, another young general - Barrivendos, of the Goldis - made war with the weakened tribes of Iberia, allies of the Romani dogs. The Iberians' constant wars with Karthadastim have left them open and vulnerable.
Tyde and Numantia fell with little resistance.
The Iberians defended Lustania in a rather large battle - er, slaughter. It didn't help them...

Summer, 215 BC: Battle of Turdulia

https://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9192/battle1ce3.jpg

When Barrivendos marched on Sucum-Murgi with his sizable force of mercenaries and shortswords-men, he met a vast army (1.5 stacks), the last of the Iberian forces in the south. In the epic battle that followed, the Iberians were utterly crushed.
Too bad Barrivendos died fighting in the streets of Sucum-Murgi not long after...



Barrivendos's sacrifice was not in vain. The Iberians will be subdued shortly, and the Casse can concentrate their efforts eastward with the Iberian territories pumping even more gold into their coffers.

Once Carratocuros finally takes Roma, I believe a jolly old extermination is in order...though those weak-willed, man-worshipping Arverni may have to be absorbed before that can happen...having no allies is better than having a crappy one.

(sorry for the length, but I had absolutely nothing to do today, which rarely happens, if at all...)

Good stuff. :2thumbsup:

brilliant update. I'm starting to like this sort of Mini-AAR

Yeah I'll update again once I've wiped the Empire of the Sweboz off the map.
edit: :no:

I demand more updates!

As I eagerly await EB, these updates are like the previews for M2TW that everyone is drooling over.

Discoskull, how did you lose that battle to the Romans, could you explain that more please? And more screenshots would be nice too.