Re: EB Preview :: Lusotannan
I meant "Wild" Iberia to say the areas out of the influence of "Civilized" nations.
Re: EB Preview :: Lusotannan
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Originally Posted by Jolt
I meant "Wild" Iberia to say the areas out of the influence of "Civilized" nations.
I know. But it's part of this mod's objective to show that the concept of "civilization" is relative...
...Quisque Est Barbarus Alio
Re: EB Preview :: Lusotannan
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Originally Posted by Jolt
Another thing that is quite intriguing. Since I do have quite a relatively good grasp of the Pre-Roman Era (Me being a portuguese student of archeology)
I have never seen or read anything that resembled Iberian Tribes fielding pratically "Human Tanks", namely the Dosidataskeli. What's their description? Or even better, what's their history? I mean, I would even comprehend the Iberian Colonies of Carthage might have raised several groups of those (For Carthage), but in deep wild Iberia? Never heard, never seen, never read. If Viriathus had groups of those, no wonder he managed to defeat the Romans. Hehe.
That unit is not a Lusitani. These guys were the foot bodyguards of the Vascii kings in northern Iberia. Very few, very rare and very very expensive. As I had posted earlier in this same thread:
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Originally Posted by Aymar de Bois Mauri
They were hand picked veteran warriors. The Vascii were the inventors of a type of armour that used small scales overlapping high-quality mail. It was extremelly effective as armour but heavy and proibitivelly expensive. So, only the most reliable and closest men to the king were equipped with it.
Later Romans used this invention as a basis to create their Lorica Plumata. Scales grew even smaller and the armour became even more perfected.
The Iverni, descendants of the Vascii - invaders of southern Hibernia (Ireland) - also used this type of armour among their most elite warriors. These men very often became mercenaires fighting for the best paying Hibernian chieftain. They gained legendary status in Ireland and were known as "noble black warriors" due to the colour of their equipement and their martial prowess. In Hibernia this armour was called Ceannlann ("Fish-Scales") as opposed to the more usual and less effective large scale coats called Iobarlann ("Scale-Jacket").
Re: EB Preview :: Lusotannan
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Originally Posted by Jolt
I meant "Wild" Iberia to say the areas out of the influence of "Civilized" nations.
And the Tartessos were what? Paleolitic savages? :inquisitive:
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Have you guys looked at other links there?
Like this one:
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What a load of crap...it just shows how uninformed some people can be...and partial
I know you're not endorsing them, but I think linking to them (regardless of the reason) is a breech of the rules. You may want to edit your post.
...those idiots. A small pick: Carthaginians were indo-European? LOL, maybe someone should tell them some things about the language they spoke and the general area wich they originated from.
Re: EB Preview :: Lusotannan
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Originally Posted by Aymar de Bois Mauri
And the Tartessos were what? Paleolitic savages? :inquisitive:
Hehe. I suppose they wouldn't be within my meaning of "Wild" Iberia.
And that's a nice bit of history I was unaware.
But is there any reknown author (Probably Roman) that mentions them?
Re: EB Preview :: Lusotannan
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Originally Posted by Kralizec
I know you're not endorsing them, but I think linking to them (regardless of the reason) is a breech of the rules. You may want to edit your post.
...those idiots. A small pick: Carthaginians were indo-European? LOL, maybe someone should tell them some things about the language they spoke and the general area wich they originated from.
Sure,it´s done.Now ask Lusitani to edit his post:my link was not exactly the same.I didn´d read or saw their main page.(I was not aware)
Re: EB Preview :: Lusotannan
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Originally Posted by Jolt
Hehe. I suppose they wouldn't be within my meaning of "Wild" Iberia.
And that's a nice bit of history I was unaware.
But is there any reknown author (Probably Roman) that mentions them?
You mean the Dosidataskeli? Not Roman. Greek sources from the coastal cities. I believe from Emporion. It seems their hoplites fought them.
Re: EB Preview :: Lusotannan
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Originally Posted by Krusader
This means the Lusotannan will only start with the Lusitania province in western Iberia and the former Celtiberian province will instead be a rebel allied one.
Er, how does this work? Are they simply not at war with the rebels? Actually allied?
Re: EB Preview :: Lusotannan
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Originally Posted by Gazius
Er, how does this work? Are they simply not at war with the rebels? Actually allied?
Yes, through the clever art of our scripter: Attilius. We also can't forget the trait work of BozosLivesHere and the former responsibles and auxiliaries in these two areas. Praise them.
Re: EB Preview :: Lusotannan
is that why the iberian faction doesnt expand? because in my romani game Ive expanded to the lands that the roman republic had except for the lands of carthage by about 265 and the Lusotannan havent moved beyond their initial province.
Re: EB Preview :: Lusotannan
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Originally Posted by soibean
is that why the iberian faction doesnt expand? because in my romani game Ive expanded to the lands that the roman republic had except for the lands of carthage by about 265 and the Lusotannan havent moved beyond their initial province.
No. The script is only in regard to the rebels in Celtiberia because in that period there were several periods of alliance against invaders between those two tribal confedarations.
Re: EB Preview :: Lusotannan
Aymar! Where are my Cantabrii? And quit that puny Vascii thing from my sight... it hurts my feet. ~;) (Hope you don't forget who are in the chronicles and who exist mostly in nationalistic propaganda).
Ready to be back. So many things I must be updated, though, I see...
I'd be back earlier, but my "raspy, not to your taste" mother tongue has sored my throat lately. As I can't speak that sleazy, greasy sounding gibberish you, homo pastoralis et latro, do talk... :laugh4:
See u soon in the 'secret chamber'... :2thumbsup:
"I shall be loved when I'm lack'd" (Coriolanus, Act VI)
Re: EB Preview :: Lusotannan
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Originally Posted by Dux Corvanus
Aymar! Where are my Cantabrii? And quit that puny Vascii thing from my sight... it hurts my feet. ~;) (Hope you don't forget who are in the chronicles and who exist mostly in nationalistic propaganda).
LOL... :grin:
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Originally Posted by Dux Corvanus
Ready to be back. So many things I must be updated, though, I see...
Nice to see you back, Dux!!! :2thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by Dux Corvanus
I'd be back earlier, but my "raspy, not to your taste" mother tongue has sored my throat lately. As I can't speak that sleazy, greasy sounding gibberish you, homo pastoralis et latro, do talk... :laugh4:
ROTFL... :laugh4:
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Originally Posted by Dux Corvanus
See u soon in the 'secret chamber'... :2thumbsup:
"I shall be loved when I'm lack'd" (Coriolanus, Act VI)
:smiley:
