I agree it is a fab looking game...no complaints in that dept..
It has the potential to be mind blowingly good...
But! How much longer do we have to wait until we can play the "real" game! lol
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I agree it is a fab looking game...no complaints in that dept..
It has the potential to be mind blowingly good...
But! How much longer do we have to wait until we can play the "real" game! lol
http://totalwarcommunity.blogspot.com/
According to that the patch is going to be out within days.
As counter intuitive as it sounds. Through all the messing with the billmen and 2hd axemen I've done. It's best to have the thinnest survivable line posbbile, round 3-3 1/2 ranks deep. Since they only cause casualties to cavalry on the charge you want to maximize the amount of axes/billhhooks their going to hit. This has a very bad result though, pointed out in many threads on fighting cavalry. The thinner your line the higher the casualty rate is for the reciever of the charge. Lower then 4 ranks you risk causing complete decimation of that unit when they recieve a well formed charge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug-Thompson
Basicly the best answer is to keep billmen/2hd axemen as far away from cavalry as possible. Send in peasants to finish up those knights in the center of town before the Varangian Guard.
IMO I'm mostly in agreeance with you though Doug in your previous post, obviously except for the billmen comment. There may be alot of so called bugs but I've yet to see very many. In my campaigns I am continually sieged and attacked. I've only once seen the AI pull back from a seige without attacking first.
It is sad how alot of games for pc have been handed out so half baked though. But this certainly isnt one of them. Honestly if you want to see a buggy but "solid" game go play Oblivion. Great game, great reviews, major bugs and CTD's.
I'd be floored and greatly happy if CA finally did what civ4 did and release the source code. Would definately make the game one of the greats.
No, you're mostly in agreement with him...Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTex
It's late and the Nyquil has kicked in. Nope, definately agreeance is correct here.:idea2:Quote:
Originally Posted by screwtype
After all this in-depth posting, reading the "two stooge brothers" here have a little one-two with each other just made me cry while laughing.
Good work Screwtype and Bigtex! :beam:
thanks for your timely updates lusted, I can't wait to see what it will be like when the patch is out, and its almost time, due to this site and others that give great feedback to CA.
Good critique of bugs is one thing, ridiculous nonsensical bashing is worthless, and I can't wait for the latter to stop, although I don't know if anything would please that crowd. People who can't see an immediate difference in diplomacy, ai, etc, while yes it does have some severe problems, but only needs some minor tweaks, and is already far superior to other tw games, well, those people should be at least somewhat optimistic. Seems like a lot of complaints come from people who want stuff on a silver platter. Patience is a great virtue, and waiting a month for a patch that should fix most issues should not be turned into a great hardship that is impossible to accept.
Well spoken, it shouldn't be a great hardship because I expect my games to be bug-free for the most part on launch.Quote:
Originally Posted by gladiator777
In some ways I am really jealous of the folks who can just brush aside or ignore the bugs and "matters of balance or taste" and enjoy the game, I really am, there are some that I can and others that just send my blood pressure through the roof whenever I experience them. I guess it's just the simple fact that individual mileage may vary.
Im the same although a few days ago I was very happy with the game. Im in two minds about this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whacker
One part of me knows that whatever else, it is a great game and it wil only get better when the issues are fixed so no problem.
But then the other part of me is a little annoyed that it was released with some of the major bugs it was. I mean, the passive AI and siege bugs aren't exactly subtle.
I must admit my enforced absence away from home due to work has made the whole thing easier to bare.
If I was home, I would certainly be concentrating on tweaking my new Dell XPS 700 while patiently waiting for the patch as apposed to playing the game.
Meh, I've put my Byz game on hold now until the patch - I really want to use Varangian Guard against the Mongols, but right now they'll do next to nothing because of the 2h weapon bug.
Oh, don't get me wrong, I wish it was bug free also, I love the game, it is going to be phenomenal, I would recommend it to anyone. I would just say that it does have 2 or 3 major bugs that might really piss you off, so if you think they will, then hold off until the patch is out, then you can enjoy it for all its worth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whacker
I played it a lot when it came out, I am not playing quite as much though just because taking cities is entirely to easy, and the siege bug is ridiculous when the enemy attacks sometimes. The only time I got furious at the game is when I lost a whole stack that was being sieged. I brought up reinforcements to angers, attacked the enemy force, underestimated their units, got my A%$ kicked, then had my besieged force retreat when my reinforcements were slaughtered. They left in perfect order, did not lose a single soldier, should have lived to fight another day, but I lost the whole stack for no reason, and the enemy force still doesn't take the city? That made no sense, in other tw games they just retreat back to the city and they are fine. Oh well, another bug that needs to be fixed. Once the patch is out I will probably be playing it way too much again, but thats the great part about this kind of entertainment, it is mind blowingly amazing, at least it is somewhat historical, and historical mods can also be made by the brilliant modders.
I am just tired of the whining about the game. So what, it has some bad bugs, its not a product that is productive, it is a product that we play when we don't have to fulfill any responsibilities, its simply just great entertainment. Its not something that we need at all, its just a game.
CA will release the patch soon, most will be happy, and not hear this constant bashing which does not do any good. Getting irritated about bugs is normal, complaining about them is fine, but at least we have a game that is good and will be great that we can talk about and develop into something that is the best in its series.
Maybe we should put this thread on hold for a while, until some further news on the patch develops?
We've given the issue a good go around. And I don't want to wake up and find another pro and anti-"whining" thread has exploded in my face.
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