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Yes but all we need is two successful lynches. I'm not saying that we should relay on that solely but it can be a useful tool when you combine it with other methods.Quote:
The ration of innocents lynched based on kills to mafia lynched based on kills is extremely high
Voting closed. :P
Omanes=CA
AndrestheCunning=HughTower
GH=Omanes
Stig=SK
WarMaster Horus=Abstain
Sasaki Kojiro=DoH
GBB=Omanes
CF=Omanes
Kommodus=rdeče.jabolko
Crazed Rabbit=Dead
Dutch_guy=Abstain
OldSchool=Ignoramus
RoadKill=SK
pevergreen=BlackAxe
BlackAxe=Abstain
CountArach=BlackAxe
Destroyer of Hope=GH
HughTower=Didn't Bother
rdeče.jabolko=Didn't Bother
Ignoramus=Didn't Bother
Motep=Dead
Omanes has been lynched by a slim margin.
Pm's please.
There wasn't nearly enough discussion this round. This is becoming endemic (?).
Only 3 people didn't vote/participate in the discussion. I have seen worse in previous games...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Well, you plainly haven't accused/pissed off nearly enough people. When do we get the old Sasaki back? :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
I don't know... he did a good job on me. It took me two days to get myself out of that mess, although lack of experience against a Sasaki attack didn't help either.
Noone expects the Sasaki inquisition! :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackAxe3001
Now, for something completely different...
My apologies for lack of involvement so far - an action-packed weekend & an irritatingly busy day at work put paid to any chance of joining in the fun.
So, we're down to 18 from 21, & a sixth of our number are scum. I believe I'm right in saying that the scum win when their numbers equal the town's. This means that a Mafia victory is possible in 4 days, if 3 people are killed each game-day. With that in mind, I'm not entirely sure we should be lynching people willy-nilly (but I'm willing to be convinced otherwise).
Crazed Rabbit will be sorely missed for his experience - it wouldn't surprise me if he was killed because the Mafia thought he would have made a good Detective.
Ichigo - can you clear up these questions? What are the Detective reveal guidelines? And, is the GF detectable?
Instinct tells me that Ichigo would have found it hard to resist putting one of the old timers in a role (esp. as GF), so let's not be too trusting of the Sasaki-Kommodus-GH trio.
And, for some strange reason, when I read about 'rabid sheep', I instantly thought of pevergreen. :idea2: Don't know why, just did......
Anyway, that's my 2 bob - I'm going home to lock my doors & await the night's events.
No, he knows the rules if he chooses to reveal, and he will appear innocent.Quote:
Originally Posted by HughTower
He may have found it hard to resist, but the norm nowadays is that the selection of the roles is randomized. However, I would be interested in Ichigo´s clarificationQuote:
Originally Posted by HughTower
Hmm, Andres came to mind immediately over here, Stig also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh
The thing is, however, with these kind of murders, is that you can't really base anything on them. Everyone is capable of them; they give us even less information in such a form than they usually do.
:balloon2:
It's still night, so maybe it's best we all shut up and don't give any more clues to the mafia about who might get lynched...
Let's make the choice of their targets as difficult as possible to them, shall we?
All names were written on a piece's of paper and put into my hat. The first was the GF and he chose his two henchmen then the detective was pulled out of the hat. All roles were random except for the two henchmen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
I would have gone with abstention at this early stage, as opposed to a lurkerQuote:
Originally Posted by Kommodus
vote. It could easily lead to creation of a bandwagon for people to conveniently
jump on, and so a pointless lynching.
As you can tell by the first round, witch-hunt votes are much more likely to turn into bandwagons. I make the argument that if we are going to randomly lynch people, it is much more useful to randomly lynch lurkers than it is to randomly lynch active players.Quote:
Originally Posted by rdeče.jabolko
Active players are good for the town, whether they are innocent or guilty.
Lurkers are bad for the town, whether they are innocent or guilty.
I do not think lurking is inherently suspicious. I think it is inherently detrimental.
If you pressure everyone to participate every round, then you pressur the GF to participate every round. There may be some rounds where he would rather not be involved one way or the other.
That's my case for lurker-hunting, and if it is flawed, I would like to hear why.
2 hours til the end of the night phase. I'm still missing some PM's if I don't recieve them by then I'll be forced to go on without you.
I have to disagree on the point regarding active players. Clearly an active playerQuote:
Originally Posted by OldSchool
who is a member of the mafia could be working to disrupt and confuse the
group. This has been evidenced enough in previous games.
As for lurkers, I think when there are so few opportunities to make the right
decision, lynching someone who is wholly inactive is too much of a gamble,
especially when left inactive they can be removed through 'Wrath of God'.
Yes, but an active mafioso is more likely to slip up and give us the clues we need to solve the mystery. The less information a mafioso gives out, the harder he is to track down.Quote:
Originally Posted by rdeče.jabolko
I agree with this - the key word being wholly inactive. If someone is active on the .org and posting in other threads, they remain a lynch candidate even if they don't post in this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by rdeče.jabolko
Yes, although I would think that the inactivity is likely due to other reasons,
rather than a tactical ploy.
Exactly. That's why I think it is important now, rather than later. If the mafia have to post in the early rounds and then have to adjust tactics during the game, we have a much better chance of catching them changing their behaviour. If we let them stand back the first few rounds, they have a chance to consolidate their strategy and disguise it better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kommodus
Every mafia post is a clue. The more they have to make, the better our chances.
Again, I don't want to lynch lurkers. I want to pressure them to participate.
This is just as much to pressure lurking townies into participating and removing lurking as an option. A lurking townie is a bad townie.
Is this why you killed him?Quote:
Originally Posted by HughTower
No mafia who is deliberately lurking is going to see a post saying "Vote:*mafia's name* as a pressure vote" and be worried in the slightest. There have been dozens of these cast and it's almost always just one. There has to be some substance or semblance of serious suspicion.
We can't keep lynching people with only 3 votes. No mafioso will by lynched with 3 votes in this game.
Unfortunatly one day doesn't give us the time we need to put major pressure on someone back it off, try again, back it off etc. This has been our main problem in these games, and this is the reason we usually don't lynch mafia till the last couple rounds. Too many people drop a single vote and then disappear from the thread.
You said this as mafia last game right? The extra discussion outweighs any shortcomings.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning
HughTower was returning home after a rather heavy drinking session at a tavern in the next town over. He was drinking here because he’d rather drink alone then have one of his so called friends sit, and try to start a conversation with him. You see Hugh was a rather reclusive person someone who’d rather drink alone then with a crowd.
Some how on the way home from the tavern Hugh got lost and ended up in a marsh. He never realized that a man in all black was watching him sitting beside a cage with a rather large animal inside. Hugh didn’t realize, no he was far too drunk to realize the strange man.
The man in black decided that it was time to complete the task given to him by his GF. He uncaged the large animal, and said only one word “attack” then the large animal charged at Hugh. Hugh screamed in agony as the large animal trampled and ripped him apart. It was a bloody scene could barely recognize after the attack. The stranger then called the hippo back and it reluctantly went back into the cage.
That evening…
This had been a pleasantly surprising day for this quiet man. He had a good day at the office. He was sitting back relaxing on his recliner watching television. He started to smell something burning…”what is that?” He thought. “Oh noes it must be my dinner!” He jumped out of his chair and ran to the kitchen where he was promptly shot in the back of the head.
The End…
Let the voting compensate for my lack of writing skills!!!!:guitarist:
So Hugh died and the mafioso was vigilante-killed?
No that was Dutch_guy's kill. I didn't add his name because I was hoping you all would annoy me with questions so I could feel loved. :beam:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
So basicly a Hippo killed Hugh wow who would've thought a hippo would kill him.
I forgot to mention that the hippo's name was Lilo.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadKill
Hugh mentioned Pevergreen, so just as a stroke of luck:
Vote: pevergreen
*observes as Stig votes and then disappears, to appeare once more next round*