KotR Out of Character Thread V

Ummm. . .we're already Vampires it seems, Heinrich's reign was 90 years, do we need to add psychotic robots to the mix?

Of course I have been tempted to have Otto say, "Sometimes you gotta roll a hard six" in a battle report.

To GH's credit, Conrad is hardly a clone of Heinrich, quite the opposite. When Otto kicks it, I'm not sure I'll be able to establish a different character as easily.

Edit: I am periodically checking direct2drive's site looking for their patch release, no joy yet. Very frustrating.

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Originally Posted by OverKnight

Ummm. . .we're already Vampires it seems, Heinrich's reign was 90 years, do we need to add psychotic robots to the mix?

Of course I have been tempted to have Otto say, "Sometimes you gotta roll a hard six" in a battle report.

To GH's credit, Conrad is hardly a clone of Heinrich, quite the opposite. When Otto kicks it, I'm not sure I'll be able to establish a different character as easily.

Edit: I am periodically checking direct2drive's site looking for their patch release, no joy yet. Very frustrating.

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LOL,

Roll a hard six...that's classic.

I'm sure you can use the avatar character traits to get a starting point for the next person you inhabit OK

Econ,

I'll still stand pat on the avatar issue. "Arnold of Austria: Governor of California" is around the corner, so I'll hang out until he's spawned.

A people's governor? I can just see you running for Chancellor.

Edict 8.1: The Chancellor must crush our enemies, see them driven before us, and hear the lamentation of their women.

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Originally Posted by econ21

On the unassigned avatars (one Franconian and one Swabian), my understanding is that there are only Austrian players who do not currently have avatars. If any such players wants to "borrow" one of the new avatars until an Austrian spawns, that would be fine.

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I am still here and I have been patiently waiting. "Borrowing" one now would not feel right at this point. However, if Meckil heads towards being a spinster I may have to rethink my options.

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Originally Posted by TinCow

Edict 8.1: The Chancellor must crush our enemies, see them driven before us, and hear the lamentation of their women.

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Technically I think that would have to be an ammendment, since it would risk excommunication. :laugh4:

Still I would have loved to fulfill that edict.

Nice battles guys, really kicking egyptian ass. At this point is Antioch being left for later? or till after the crusades are over to avoid desertion? Any news on the french front?

Yep, Antioch is being ignored for now. Keep in mind that all Crusade related legislation is about to expire, because the Crusade will be done. That means that the Council of Crusaders comes to an end and the Diet resumes decision making control over what goes on out there.

And massive expansion in Europe is possible again too. Unless we call a new edict at the next session.
OK gets to call the shots till then though ~:)

The French haven't said boo since Ignoramus gutted them and we snuck into Marseille. It's not for lack of troops, but I think we have enough forces on their border that they're being cautious.

Edit: Remember, we now have to consider our papal standing. Many of the catholic nations are high in his favor. If we blitz, our rating will nosedive.

I suspect that the next Diet Session will see a lot of debate over expansion vs internal development.

How old is the current pope btw. I guess we might get an Imperial pope next, which means all factions at war with us get a nosedive in terms of papal standing.

The Chancellor's report has been updated:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=124

I have sent the save out to Ituralde, once I get it back I can conclude the year and move to the next. I should resume playing this evening (Eastern).

Maybe it's just me, but we've fought a lot of battles recently.

Edit: Pope Pisanus is young for a Pope, 56.

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Originally Posted by econ21

On the unassigned avatars (one Franconian and one Swabian), my understanding is that there are only Austrian players who do not currently have avatars. If any such players wants to "borrow" one of the new avatars until an Austrian spawns, that would be fine.

Now would also be a good time for any lurkers who want to join the game to sign up - they should be able to get an avatar and jump right in.

Otherwise, we will just leave the two new generals unassigned, so that players whose avatars die will have a "resurrection hulk" to respawn into. (For sci-fi fans, yes, that revelation means GH is the last of the final five cylons - which might explain a lot, when you think about it. :laugh4: )

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I will have to ask Ichigo if he is still playing.If he is i think he should get the Franconian avatar.:yes:

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Originally Posted by OverKnight

To GH's credit, Conrad is hardly a clone of Heinrich, quite the opposite. When Otto kicks it, I'm not sure I'll be able to establish a different character as easily.

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When you have characters as dynamic as Heinrich and Conrad, it's quite easy to switch between the two since they're polar opposites. When I try to think of an action that Conrad would do, I simply ask myself what Heinrich would do in the situation and then do precisely the opposite of that. I imagine that it would be much harder to transition to a character with only a moderate amount of differences, since gradually you'd have that character evolve in the direction of the previous one.

Keep in mind if we expand further in Europe it'll all be over.

It's 1190 or something for godsake. There's centries to go, there will be no point playing if we are double the size of every other nation and have a win loss ration with avatar fought battles that remains above 99.9%.

So are you saying... that we should start losing!?

Hm...I like your style!:grin3: :laugh4: .

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Originally Posted by AussieGiant

Keep in mind if we expand further in Europe it'll all be over.

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Well, we could always do this:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=85054

As Tincow said, it's likely the expansion vs internal development tension will come to fore when the limiting legislation surrounding the crusade expires. As Chancellor after OK, I will try to restrain the urge to conquer for the OOC reason AussieGiant gives but I will try to make it interesting for those who feel frustrated by this.

It would be useful to know if players feel they personally are not fighting enough battles (I assume all players love fighting battles, so this is the default sentiment), but also to hear from anyone who is sick of squashing rebels or fighting defensive border engagements. If you let me know, we should be able to work out ways of rotating postings and thinking up diversions to keep everyone happy while not making the game a cakewalk.

One idea I am toying with as Chancellor is to give the AI their 100k/Diet as usual. That should allow them to upgrade buildings, hire stuff etc. But then also to give them 10k/turn afterwards, to help pay the upkeep for whatever they have splurged on.

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Originally Posted by Overknight

Maybe it's just me, but we've fought a lot of battles recently.

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We are now in the mid-game period where multiple battles per turn may be the norm. The WotS slowed down a lot during this period because of it. But we've kept up a good pace so far.

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Originally Posted by econ21

One idea I am toying with as Chancellor is to give the AI their 100k/Diet as usual. That should allow them to upgrade buildings, hire stuff etc. But then also to give them 10k/turn afterwards, to help pay the upkeep for whatever they have splurged on.

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Is this working the 100k? Does the AI make could use of the donation from what you can see in troops. Would the 10k/turn also be properly utilized by them? It's not like it's our money we are losing but I just wondered if this was helping to make the AI more challenging overall.

I think only the factions we are actively at war with (i.e. we are invading their lands or planning to) ought to get the extra 10k/turn as they won't utilize it otherwise.
As we can see, Turks and Egypt used up their 100k very quickly (or nearly anyway), while other factions we are at war with but don't invade still have over 30k left at the end of 1 chancellorship

I will be voting for a non-expansionist policy for the next Chancellorship for one reason: The Chancellorship after this one (and several beyond that) will have to deal with the Mongols. If we restrain ourselves a little now, we will have some very challenging battles before us in the near future.

My apologies for my absence, Verizon DSL went down in my area for about a day. Let me catch up, and then I will finish off the year and get started on the next.

I'm conflicted, OOC I want a non expansionist policy, because I think it will make for a richer overall gaming expierence. BUT then Gerhard (Most gerneals in the riech actually) will be looking at a lot of boring years ahead save for an invading army or 3, I say this cause at 0 piety he really has no IC reason to go on crusade, and I'll feel a little left out. Also I think Conrad Sailer should get the riens of the BHA sooner or later....This non-religeous yes man persona of his can get boring at times.

I've been thinking of an edict where we make one last large peace offering to Milan (5K florins + trade rights or something like that) and if they refuse invade.

I personally really liked the limited expansion edict (but I did propose it :D :D ). But writing a new one would be hard as we really only are fighting the French and Poles, AFIAK Hugary and Venice have calmed down a lot and denmark, sicily and england aren't at war with us...yet. meh, the next diet session is still a ways away *puts thinking cap on*

I think for now a non expansionist rule would be quite OK, although I would still say we should fight our 'natural' foes: France and Poland. We should make peace with other factions where possible and start thinking of building up massive armies in the ME to prepare for the Mongols. Or instead of armies think of building the blacksmith buildings so we get better armour for trained troops. Actually the latter would make more sense IC as we don't know of Mongols just yet.

I tot the mongols activities were announced in game... Just that IC, you cannot know how strong they are, ie. look down on them as a bunch of barbarians from the steppe.

Mongols get announced when its 4-8 years before their actual spawn/invasion. Up until then people knew very little if anything about them or if they did thought it was nothing to worry about.

my bad, I tot I remember seeing something about the mongols appearing soon in one of the reports.

desertion as we are besieging the target city........interesting.

The desertion was from the Cusade forces left in Adana. I guess the OOC thing to do would have been to have Maximillian and his army leave the crusade. But IC, Max is still very much part of the Crusade, and I wasn't going to do that.

Holy crap that's a lot of desertion. I'm right in thinking that garrison units aren't supposed to desert, right?