Post Heroic - Big Famous Battles

This is my first battle in EB and my first post here :yes:

My Roman army against an army of Eleutheroi defending Segesta

The Rebels attacked me after being beseiged for 1 turn. He deployed his infantry at the south gate while releasing his 2 missile cavalry and genereal out of the western gate. I advanced 3 groups of Hastati into his infantry while covered by slinger fire. After that I sent a group of Triarii at their left flank.
Meanwhile his cavalry arrived and my Equites and General dealed with the missile cavalry very quickly, the general however gave me more problems, and I had to redeploy the Triarii to fight the general.
One group of missile cavalry stopped routing and quickly charged my slingers which caused them to rout. But I punished his missile cavalry by anihilating them with my general.
Now it was time to break the spirit of the Rebels and I flanked the infantry with my cavalry. This was enough for a group of enemy spearman to rout and as I persued them I conquerd the gates. Fianlly the whole army in front of the city gates was destroyed and I only had to slaughter the remains of his army at the town square.


https://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i...icVictory1.jpg

Wow, my hat off to you. I understand the town of Segesta contains two units of Gaesatae, which makes your win even more impressive. What units did you have in the beginning of the battle?

It was a siege battle from my previous SAKA campaign

https://img291.imageshack.us/img291/...8990261ue2.jpg
https://img291.imageshack.us/img291/...pg/1/w1026.png

just how many arrows you vasted :grin:

very nice, it took long i bet

*Wausser, i second Aemilius, that is one good fight, do what difficulty was it?

What I did is, 2 generals waste all their arrows. Then they charge, melee, charge and melee, at the same time 2 HA fire behind the enemies. When HA have no more ammo left, they draw attention of the enemies together with the 2 generals, and the 3 archer spearmen units started to work, firing behind the enemy.

Last, archer spearmen pinned the enemy while calvary charge at the back. And that is the hardest part inside the settlement.

Thanks! :D
I played it on medium, and the units I had were:

1 FM
1 Equites
3 Hastati
1 Triarii
1 Roman Reserve Slingers


@chenkai11:
Nice one :D

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Originally Posted by Wausser

I played it on medium, and the units I had were:

1 FM
1 Equites
3 Hastati
1 Triarii
1 Roman Reserve Slingers

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You won with THAT? I believe you deserve a balloon for this::balloon2:
In case you are not aware of this, the balloon is the .Org unit of currency. Treasure it well!

I will, thanks:verycool:

:balloon2::balloon2: to you-that win was the best i've seen.:yes:

Hmm I think I made a (little) mistake

I didn't had Hastati but Principes...

bah, still a very nice victory

After 35 years as a good ally, Sweboz decided to back stab me by attacking Mediolanum.

I made the Sweboz pay for it....

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

WITH THEIR BLOOD!!!!

I had a FM, 2 principes (one only having +- 70 men) and a group of Triarii


The AI had some Chatti club, Germanic Club, Hera....(Germanic Swordsman), Fujot, Ridonez and a FM




https://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i...icVictory2.jpg

This thread makes me wish i took screenshots of my defence of Baktra. PURPLE RAIN attacked me with 3 full stacks and my field army was away in india. I had 2 phalanx, and 4 generals. Thats all I needed. with only 2 routes to the city square, I placed 1 phalanx on the North street and the other on East street. Most of them came through the north street, which was good because that phalanx had 2 silver chevs, and my other one only had 2 bronze ones. We held for a good 40minutes when they started pushing through so I charged my King into the fray, then they hit the east phalanx, so I sent my most experienced General (who was only there the get new weapons and armour and then was going back to the field army) into the East street and he chewed through them like butter with 3 silver chevs. When he broke through that contingent he had a gold chevron, so i took him and the 2 other generals and swooped round and started killing the buggers who were along the inside of the palisade. Pushed into the North street and cut the palhav to peices.

I lost about 20% of my men, mostly cavalry, killed all 5000 or so of them.

bump* :dancinglock:

Wausser, may I ask how exactly you won such a victory? I know Germanic infantry suck but still...

Germanic infantry "suck"? Hell they are tough to kill!

Well they only had one set of ladders and one tower, I could slay his units easily, and above all sweboz lost a lot of men to my towers

Current KH-Campaign, Battle near Ambrakia

https://img364.imageshack.us/img364/...victorylj5.png


The Epirotes had 4 or 5 units of Elite Phalangitai and many other phalanx units, supported by Illyrian Coast Levies and Spearmen. After a short but bloody fight at the right flank, i could beat them back there and attack the rear of their phalanx. This decided the battle. The cavallery was only used to hunt down routing enemies.


Cav. Kill - Stats

Hippeis - 451
Hippeis - 888
Greek Heavy Cavallery - 553

If that were a regular field battle on relatively even ground (so I couldn't set up on a massive 70 degree slope), I would have lost at least half of the (Koinon) army achieving that victory.

yes, i was lucky that there was a valley, because in the first place, I stood downhill and they came down from the even greater slope. So i retreated onto the next hill, the one you see on the picture.


Since they were the attackers, not me, they marched uphill on the right flank (picture). Behind the picture theres an slope where they came down with cavallery and heavy phalangitai, but luckily not so many, so there i could break them, even though my thureophoroi were fighting uphill.

Most of the 500 men i lost were killed when beeing attacked from higher ground.


Choosing the right battleground is half the rent, this should have been considered by the enemy before attacking my army ;-)

Btw. the game is H or VH (i don't remember) Campaign / M battle

very nice,

and yes Medium battle difficulty is optimal, since on hard and very hard you will be forced to see natives massacre your elites in direct combat - not nice at all :no:

yeah, i don't like it unrealistic

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This time - it is the next battle - i fought uphill and they attacked downhill. The difference to the one before is very clear, it did cost me many more men.

https://img444.imageshack.us/img444/...peiros1mb9.png


Some points have to be paid attention to:

1. this battle happend shortly after the heroic victory i posted first. No casualty from befor was replaced. The cavallery has been decimated before and were only 107 men instead of the 300 the used to be.

2. on the other hand the Epirotes did not have as many Elite-Phalangitai as in the first battle. They only had 3 full and 1 or 2 decimated (less than 50 men) units of them.

3. Three Family Members led the 2 Epirote Armies into battle. Each one had more than 100 Somatophylakes Strategou under command.

4. The rest of the enemys armies consisted of 2 units of Sphendonetai and each 1 unit of Toxotai, Peltastai, Hippeis and Hoplitai, the whole rest of the armies consisted of mercenary Thureophoroi and illyrian levies and spearmen.

My own army consisted of the units as following (the same counts for the battle before, its the same army, only that before the heroic victory every unit was complete and this time some had losses from before):


https://img244.imageshack.us/img244/...peiros2jj7.png


And now the most interesting thing:

https://img95.imageshack.us/img95/23...peiros3jk6.png


It appears that the 3 FM of Epeiros were the LAST 3 FM of this faction. They all died in this battle. Ambrakaia, the city i had layed siege on, the one where the supportive army of Epeiros came from, is still under siege but now belongs to the Eleutheroi. The same counts for Epidamnos wich belonged to Epeiros too.

Sorry for posting here again ^^ But I am very much excited. I don't know why, but in my current KH campaign great enemy armies do appear. This one for example attacked one of my 2 Armies, this time its the army in Asia Minor.

The Arche Seleukeia attacked with 2 armies. Other than the epirote armies, the AS did not use elite phalangitai, but a strong core (7 units) of Medium Phalangitai (Klerouchoi Phalangitai and Pantodapoi Phalangitai, supported by few heavy Hoplitai, some mercenary Thureoporoi and many light Infanterists like Shuban-i Fradakhshana, Akontistai, Toxotai. They also had some cappadocian hillmen, whos native names i forgot, quite many units of Pantodapoi,a unit of Misthophoroi Uzali and a unit of Skythed Chariots. They also had 1 FM with about 100 Somatophylakes Strategou.

My own army consited of:

Heavy Infantery (core troups)

1 x Somatophylakes Strategou (KH)
2 x Hoplitai
2 x Iphikratous Hoplitai

Medium and Light Melee Infantery (flanks)

2 x Ekdromoi Hoplitai
2 x Hoplitai Haploi
2 x Peltastai

Light Range Infatery (supportive Troups)

2 x Toxotai
3 x Sphedonetai

Cavallery

2 x Hippakontistai
2 x Prodromoi


https://img126.imageshack.us/img126/...ictory2uv4.png

The reason i post this, is that i've managed to creat a kind of "Canae", even if based on luck and AI stupidity.


The 2 armies did not attack at the same time. The smaller one attacked and got beaten very quickly. The second army did not appear on the battlefield until that point of time.

The enemy general rode to near allone and got killed by a stone of my Sphedonetai. The rest of his army, which outnumbered mine, formed up in a rectangle (i've never seen an army doing that, but well, they did).

Then this is what happened (the number of units on this picture does not equal the numbers at the real event, its just an illustration):

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1. The cavallery beats the Shuban-i Fradakhshana and rides to the right flank of the enemy

2. The Ekdromoi Hoplitai and the Hoplitai Haploi fight the light infantery in front, turn right and drive them to the Phalangitai.

3. The General leads his heavy infantery to the left flank of the enemys Phalangitai and attacks.

4. A unit of Iphikratous Hoplitai gets behind the enemys formation, beats the light infantery in the rear of the enemy and attacks the rear of the Phalangitai

The Phalangitai turn 90°, and attack the heavy infantery of the KH. Their left flank is now attacked by the Iphikratous Hoplitai, their right flank by the Ekdromoi Hoplitai and the Hoplitai Haploi. The light infantery at the new right flank starts to rout.


5. Now that the Phalangitai turned themselves to face the heavy infantery of the KH, the cavallery attacks at full breadth and causes - in collaboration with the fleeing light infantery at the flank - a mass routing, which ends in an even more brutal slaughter, than the battles against Makedonia and Epeiros brought up.



This was only the great core of the enemies army. For some reason the Chariots, most of the light range-infantery and 2 units of Pantodapoi waited for christmas at the other end of the battlefield. They did not move, even after their heavy infantery was sent to hades. Since it was 240 before christ, and so christmas was far away, i choosed to attack myself and beated the 2 units of Pantodapoi by attacking them with my cavallery from 4 sides at once. The rest of the enemys army ran off the battlefield. Many of the light range infanterists got killed, but the chariots could flee without even having touched an enemy soldier.



As i said, the battle has mainly been won because of AI stupidity and luck, but it still was a great massacre and an important victory that guaranteed further expansion in asia minor.

I'm very glad that the enemies show up so early with such great elite-forces as Makedonia and Epeiros did, and now the AS layed siege on Ipsos with an army with of 8 ! units of Shipri Tukul - Babylonian Heavy Spearmen - among the other units. Juhuuu

Ok, now I would have definitely lost that battle. :dizzy2: The AI would just have encircled me.
Should that go under the suicidal AI thread?

haha, yes, indeed

Well,I guess I can revive this thread.https://img52.imageshack.us/img52/75...1215460464.png

How the hell did you achieve that kill ratio? What were the Romans using, an army of leves?

Made stand in town square with phanlangites which weared down enemy, then slaughtering them with tarantinoi throwing missiles to their backs followed by Pyrrhos charging with his bodyguard? That way it wouldn't really matter which army composition romani have be it leves or 890 triarii (well you would also need some luck in that case because you'd have to rout instantly atleast half of enemy units so that chain rout would start).

killing twice your number in a defensive battle is no big deal but only loosing one single man in a battle is really epic !

I usually even have more when annoying a eastern selucid quarterstack with horse archers.^^

Actually,I just made the phalangites stand at the gate with the cavalry as close to the wall as possible to avoid some missile fire.The Romans just charged at my phalanx until there were like 20+left then they started to rout.After which I sent Pyrrhos.(Played on H/M)