Re: Colorado Shootings -- One Life Ended to Save Others
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Originally Posted by Lord Winter
Would the act of self defence be any left valid with an illegal gun?
Yes, in most of the 50 states (possibly all).
The person using the illegal gun may well end up charged, separately, for the possession of same, but the use of an illegal tool to perform a legal act does not negate the legality of the act.
Re: Colorado Shootings -- One Life Ended to Save Others
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Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
Hundreds of thousands of people in a state population of millions of people is an isolated example?
Yep, as an isolated (aka scientifically unsound) example is defined by location and resultant external, uncontrolled factors (in this case) rather than numbers. To use your logic would be to say that because the fishing is good in Brisbane, it would automatically be so everywhere else; there simply isn't the evidence to support that.
Instead, there is the evidence to support that in one case, in one location, your hypothesis was not disproven ~;)
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Ridiculous. Are you just supposed to ask nicely whilst they steal what you've worked your life to obtain?
Myrdd said it better than I could have ~:)
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Do you have any evidence for that silly reasoning? You think maybe criminals might decide not to attack when they face a greater threat? Or that it might be a more dangerous situation that prompts a person to draw a handgun to protect themselves?
I've said it before and I'll say it again, using a gun makes you less likely to be injured:
http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_g..._previous.html
So you're wrong.
The flaw in that study is that it includes the effect of a gun on crime completion rates. We're not arguing about that; we're arguing about safety, and I would still suggest that an armed person is more of a threat than an unarmed one, and thus more likely to come to harm.
Robberies happen. C'est la vie. I'm only interested in surviving ~:)
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A clarification on the lethal force thing; I'm not talking about shooting people in the back or other red herrings brought up. I'm saying that laws that forbid you from using a gun when confronted by a criminal who 'only' has a club or knife, or even just his fists, are wrong.
Would chopping their heads off with a samurai sword be okay too? :beam: