How sexually promiscous are you ?

Link to Neg Theory .pdf (just googled it):
http://www.themysterymethod.com/down...neg_theory.pdf

No it does not. As I mentioned above it works on a more fundamental level than culture. All successful seduction does. You can seduce a Russian just as well as a Japanese, or Arab with the correct mix of technique.

I have tried the M3 Model in Arabia, and it worked there, it worked in Pakistan, it worked in Thailand, it works in all of Western Europe, including Germany. It is hard to believe, I did'nt belive it till I did it, till I analysed past "love stories" and then I was like DAMM! THAT IS WHAT I WAS DOING !!! I just never studied women, the one thing I really love. I never studied them, I took them for granted but when I started to study I understood the reasons behind my reasonable and comparative success. It was suddenly evident that I was going on "autopilot" and I just had it in me to pull the right moves, push the buttons. I wasn't thinking at all, everything was instinct. Now that I have studied female psychology better, I'm far better equipped than before. It helps a great deal because I am so much a better person, I am so much more satisfied with my sex life, and thus my whole life. I can really positively impact women's lives, and finally understand them (daaaammmmiiiittt!).

Thing is before I started my study about 2 years ago, when I approached a woman she was already into C1-C3 or S1-S3, there was NO ATTRACTION phase, most of the time. She saw me, looked at me and BANG! I was so used to it I didn't even think about understanding it. It's only later I understood why I was ahead. Convinction, confidence, lifestyle, success, and assorted minor factors, including ofc non neediness. Gamers have that key they appear non needy, hence... the can be very successful in attraction phase. BUT once it gets to comfort and seduction, and later into a relationship, things can get more complicated.

You simply have to adjust your seductive process to calibrate to the culture. If you make it match the culture it will fail, because, as I said earlier, females desire males who are rare. There are many different seductive techniques M3 is ONLY ONE OF THEM. You can use others if you feel it works better for you.

You build as you train.

I feel like this is the part where you tell me we can have it for only 5 easy payments to a 1-800 number.:laugh4:

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I feel like this is the part where you tell me we can have it for only 5 easy payments to a 1-800 number.:laugh4:

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Nah it's payment upfront dude !!! 50,000 US Dollars !!!!

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! JUST JOKING !

That pdf. explained the thought process, and it makes sense. Thanks.

My pleasure. :bow:

Just remember that it has to be used in conjuntion with other things. I'm only saying this again and again because a lot of guys I've seen overneg and the girl feels insulted.

Feel free to ask if you have any other questions.

I'm starting a project where I live to get some new guys together who want to learn "the game" with me. Won't have huge mansion with swimming pools, jacuzzis and ferraris for base camp but we shoud be rockin anyway. It will be called Project ... hmm not sure what to call it, yet. Free of course.

I'm surprised nobody said this only works with bar/party girls... ohh wait we already covered that !

Got another veeedeo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzyKGLIdH1I&NR=1

1st guy: Overneg, bad bad bad terrible.. bye bye... BUT even THAT worked. And he was lying.. geez.

2nd guy: Very GOOD, the second neg was risky, she could have turned at that point. Being a nice girl, she didn't. This was great. Notice how he was HONEST and just carried on the conversation. He had other stuff to say. This was perfect. The girl is an atomic bomb. She's lovin it!.

So where do you sign up? :laugh4:

No seriously, I think part of it can be learned, but a lot is down to your personality, looks and in some ways language, culture and ethnicity. And your capital obviously.

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So where do you sign up? :laugh4:

No seriously, I think part of it can be learned, but a lot is down to your personality, looks and in some ways language, culture and ethnicity. And your capital obviously.

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HAHA ! You'll have to start your training on the Eurostar on the way over !
And your first mission will be to bring me a nice Bollywood babe from Leicester Square !

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They're out there on heat, some Saturday nights. There are certain events on that club at the South West end (I think)of Leicester Square, which are Indian/Bollywood oriented. My God, I almost fell over when I saw the que, like 100 women to one man. Perfect breeding ground !

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Just kidding ! ... about perfect breeding ground...

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... or was I ?

Yes I agree, a great part can be learned.

Personally I say all of it can be learnt. You can become a man that women admire. I think any man of the average intelligence found on this forum has what it takes to be that man. You see women do notice looks, language, culture and ethnicity (not sure I understand this one, you mean they choose based on ethnicity?), but fundamentally any woman of any social class, exceptional beauty can be successfully courted.

Keypoint: Women think differently than men.

Ever heard of Jemima and Imran ? Sure you have. Now why did she go through all that ? She was richer, had more going for her etc. Now watch an interview with Imran Khan. The guy is a stud in every way, period. Looks matter, no question about that, but they are not everything. No single factor is overiding in a courtship unless the female is prejudiced. Even so I can tell you from my own experience that prejudice can be overcome in seduction, usually quite easily. This is because seduction relies on emotion. You can convince a woman logically "Look I'm ugly and 75 years old but I have 20 Million pounds to leave behind to somebody." That is not seduction. This is a contract, of course she will agree, because it's totally to her benefit. Courtship and seduction rely on emotion. The female feels first, then thinks. if she gets those feelings going, you're in. To get those feelings going any man can learn the ways in which to get her on. This is the whole purpose of courtship and seduction science, to understand te principles governing female mating choice. This is why Africans, Italians and other "southerners" are usually ahead of Caucasians, because they know how to make the female feel this way.

Keypoint: The female most often feels first, then thinks.

Watch any good "sexytime" (BORAT!) movie, the female is trying to resist the male's approach, "No baby I can't do this" but she often succumbs because the male closes the gap between feeling and thinking, sending her into a sexual state where she no longer thinks. She's lost in feeling. KHAO PHAD KAAIII !!! (Thai chicken fried rice!!!)

The greatest survival strength of the female is her power of intuition, her power to feel.
This power can become her greatest weakness, lost, in the hands of a skilled male.

A male has to have the desire to have a strong identity, a successful life, and a good lifestyle. As with any goal, we sometimes do not have the means, then we have to go get the means. For most of us this means work, a lot of work. That's life, we often have to work to get what is really worthy of us.

If you're saying the women are not really conscious, couldn't we then say that there is no consent and thus it's rape? ~;p :sweatdrop:

I mean doesn't consent require thought? :inquisitive:

Fore example: If a fat ugly woman put something into your coffee that would make you absolutely hawt and also render you unable to think and then she'd have sex with you, wouldn't you call it rape? You might say that women just have that poison in them already and you just activate it on purpose... :tomato2:

Well, another one of the 26-year old virgins club here. ;) I'll admit I had a crisis of faith last year, wondering if I'd end up as a 40-year old virgin, but then I simply decided that panicking over this matter is simply not worth the time and hassle and I simply decided to enjoy life and see what would happen.

The primary rule to remember is indeed to NEVER appear needy. I remember this bloke on another forum I frequent who would post every three months or so complaining why girls didn't like him. Naturally, the first few times the women on the forum comforted him, saying that he was a nice guy and how he'd find a girl eventually but after the 4th or 5th time or so his act started to get old. Eventually he left after some creepy stalkery stuff with a girl who frequented the forum who also happened to live in his city. However, the most important thing that I remember was how utterly pathetic he came over after the 3rd or 4th time he started whining on the forum. So, the primary rule is indeed to never appear needy.

The second rule is of course the 'cocky and funny' approach. Now, I'll admit I suck badly at this, not so much on the internet, where I can be fairly witty, if I may so so myself, but in RL. I tend to be fairly introverted, particularly in large crowds and around new people. Don't expect me to say much (or even anything at all) when I first meet you, particularly when there are many people around. Needless to say, this doesn't really help in picking up girls. Combined with the fact that I basically detest bars, clubs or discos means I prefer to sit at home reading books, watching the Dsicovery Channel or indeed, playing games.

Still, I've decided to make a change so I've started to work-out (mens sana in corpore sano, as we latinists say ;) ), check out organizations (hobbies and the like, I'm thinking of taking up swordfighting, since it always seemed to be a fascinating sport to me and possibly dancing, which has the added benefit that women tend to love a man who can dance adequately ;) ) and take speech therapy lessons, since I tend to speak very fast and tend to swallow consonants, so by taking therapy I hope to increase my confidence in public speaking.

Anyway, we will just have to see how things will go. :)

I don't think these studied methods work for the game-virgins here. I am sure the methods are all fine and succesful, but I think this is the wrong crowd. They are not going to pick up Kiera Knightley next Saturday.

Here are my two simple tips:

I see some guys here who are quite capable of holding a conversation. Some are funny and witty too. So! What else do you really need? Just erm...talk to that girl you like, eh? Works wonders.
A nice guy asking a girl for a cup of coffee, a dinner, a date - nothing wrong about it. Girls expect guys to ask them. What's the worst that can happen? If you have the hots for a girl, at school, university, at work - then don't drag it on for months. You'll let the moment pass.

Second tip, following up on the first - let her know! Tell her that your interest is physical!!
Really, girls are fascinated by guys who like them. Now you are not as badass as I am and so you won't get away with telling a girl that her décolleté is making you explode in your pants, but at some point - and the sooner, the better - you have got to let her know what you want. Girls don't want guys who pretend that they want everything except sex, they want to hear that you want hot passionate sex NOW! That you are having nervous nights thinking about her, that there is nothing else except your desire for her. Don't be a wimp, be passionate. Girls want to be swept of their feet.
But pray, do get your timing right. Oh, and if she isn't interested, she isn't, and make a graceful exit.

To summarize - go up to that girl you fancy, have a chat, make it clear what your intentions are, and she'll let you know. It is not that difficult, and most girls are actually pretty nice to decent guys, so there is nothing to be afraid of.

Step 3: Don't listen to a slightly effeminate overweight Frenchman who spent his early 20s dabbling in gay fetish pornography

Edit: He's right

I think this is the saddest thread I've ever read...from the people too scared of women to talk to them all the way to those who are so scared of them they have to reduce them to acronyms, make up a bunch of rules and theories, and "hunt" them. It's all just insecurity.

The sad thing is dissing what you don't even understand. ;)

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That's me alright! :beam:

But hey, I get away with it. For reasons utterly beyond my comprehension people consistently mistake me for sophisticated. Especially girls. Even more especially, American girls. All I need is the accent thingy. And some over the top effeminate manners, which they invariably mistake for classic refinement and finesse. Fantastic. Man, I can talk about her melons all night long and she'll still mistake me for a great catch.

It worked wonders on your sister too. ~;p

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If dating was an FPS. Sinan would be the gatling weilding heavy weapons dude laying down lots of cover fire, penetrating lots of enemies and blooding quite a few... and magically avoiding the altar er shotgun wedding er return fire.
The nice guy is the sniper who goes for one or two... he just has to remember to stay up with the pack...

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So... uh... who's the guy who runs in slashing with a knife/crowbar/axe/spoon?

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That's me alright! :beam:

But hey, I get away with it. For reasons utterly beyond my comprehension people consistently mistake me for sophisticated. Especially girls. Even more especially, American girls. All I need is the accent thingy. And some over the top effeminate manners, which they invariably mistake for classic refinement and finesse. Fantastic. Man, I can talk about her melons all night long and she'll still mistake me for a great catch.

It worked wonders on your sister too. ~;p

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So you're into 300lb buck toothed chicks eh?

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Still, I've decided to make a change so I've started to work-out (mens sana in corpore sano, as we latinists say ;) ), check out organizations (hobbies and the like, I'm thinking of taking up swordfighting, since it always seemed to be a fascinating sport to me and possibly dancing, which has the added benefit that women tend to love a man who can dance adequately ;) ) and take speech therapy lessons, since I tend to speak very fast and tend to swallow consonants, so by taking therapy I hope to increase my confidence in public speaking.

Anyway, we will just have to see how things will go. :)

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CONGRATULATIONS to you mate ! You're one of the brave who's realised something ain't happening and you've decided to do something about it. My respect to you. If you don't like the gym just stick with outdoor activities as you are. BTW loads of hot babes at the gym though. You could kill two birds with one stone. Dancing is good in that regard, as you rightly pointed out as well.

If you need anything from me, gimme a shout. Have a reading list that's pretty damm long, about 2 years worth. David D is sound, I like Juggler too, they're the most "natural".

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I don't think these studied methods work for the game-virgins here.

A nice guy asking a girl for a cup of coffee, a dinner, a date - nothing wrong about it. Girls expect guys to ask them. What's the worst that can happen? If you have the hots for a girl, at school, university, at work - then don't drag it on for months. You'll let the moment pass.

Second tip, following up on the first - let her know! Tell her that your interest is physical!!
Don't be a wimp, be passionate. Girls want to be swept of their feet.
But pray, do get your timing right. Oh, and if she isn't interested, she isn't, and make a graceful exit.

To summarize - go up to that girl you fancy, have a chat, make it clear what your intentions are, and she'll let you know. It is not that difficult, and most girls are actually pretty nice to decent guys, so there is nothing to be afraid of.

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These are good tips. Simplest way I guess, and the most common way.

The methods I described are proven to work on most women, and they will work for virgins. What I have seen is not the only proof of that, there are large movements of men on self improvement programmes worldwide who can attest to that.

Just yesterday, I met a 24 year old virgin, through a project I've started to help guys get more successful with women. We spent about 2 hours together, I told him what he needs to do, basics => false disqualifier, show no initial interest unless she does first, be interesting, when she shows interest get her to invest, qualify her, escalate physically, remove her from the group, then go more intimate... basically, without too much details. I wanted him to do the work himself. He only wanted me to give him a strategy, encourage him on and rescue the situation if needed. I walked up to 3 women in the cafe, of which was one he'd expressed desire in (the hottest one of course), and started a conversation. He joined us when I waved him in, after another hour he left with his choice to "take a walk outside". He made out with her, got her number and invited her out on New Year's, she accepted. The problem with this guy was he was too afraid to make a move by himself. With me around he felt more comfortable, since he knew I could rescue the situation if need be. He didn't feel comfotable to say this to his friends because all of them were like him, and all of them had no idea where to start. All who are with someone are also in monogamous relationships. I'm eager to hear what happened, he's a hospital worker, she's a teacher. Match made IMO, I think they're going to be together for while. Let's see... maybe not.

You can use any method you wish, whatever works for you. There is no rule which says you have to do it like this. There are many methods to pursue. One thing is clear if you declare interest before the female does, before she is interested in you. You are chasing her. It is a way, but this is not my way, because if you start by chasing her, she is the prize, just like every other guy thinks. You want to chase her... BUT... AFTER she shows her interest in you very clearly. If you chase her first.. well... welcome to the club. Everyone else is chasing her. You absolutely should state your interest but only as a reward for her interest in you. You should tell her stuff to heat her up, but later, not immediately. As you said timing is essential. This way she feels like she earned your interest and she's worth your sexual desire. She feels much better about herself. Women do not value guys who come too easy. In relationship terms, respect and trust are fundamental.

I voted 0 because my wife would kill me if I didn't. She's not sharp enough to realise that she's included. So yes.. the answer has to be 0. :sweatdrop:

Sinan :inquisitive: You met up with a 24 year old MALE virgin? :inquisitive: ?
Something you want to let us know? (I didn't even know that species existed, let alone have a repressed chat with it)

HAHA !

Yours is the 100th vote and that brings us to 64% having 0-3 partners till now.

If I change my user name I could give you an answer that is realistic rather than what my wife wants to see.
But seeing as she may inadvertantly visit here, I'm a 36 year old married virgin with 2 children(you don't see many of them do you?)
So Sinan "Jackson", tell us more about the milkshake you shared with a 24yr old "male" virgin? :inquisitive:

Holey Moley!!!!! I just checked and realised that most people here are virgins!!! Maybe we should start a poll about who has discovered masturbation yet? I discovored it before I had sex too so let's all vote freely.

LOL !

Yeah I met up with a 24 year old MALE virgin. Met him on another forum asking for help. Since I'm in the same city, I offered. I don't mind inexperienced wingmen, as long as they're good natured, driven and honest. Did you read the rest of this thread ? he's not the only one. I'm not dissing it btw, nor am I putting it down. IMO it takes courage to go for what you want, and if a guy is 24 and he says he needs help to get laid well at least he's making an effort.

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LOL !

Yeah I met up with a 24 year old MALE virgin. Met him on another forum asking for help. Since I'm in the same city, I offered. I don't mind inexperienced wingmen, as long as they're good natured, driven and honest. Did you read the rest of this thread ? he's not the only one. I'm not dissing it btw, nor am I putting it down. IMO it takes courage to go for what you want, and if a guy is 24 and he says he needs help to get laid well at least he's making an effort.

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24 eh?

virgin eh?
:yes:

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LOL !

Yeah I met up with a 24 year old MALE virgin. Met him on another forum asking for help. Since I'm in the same city, I offered. I don't mind inexperienced wingmen, as long as they're good natured, driven and honest. Did you read the rest of this thread ? he's not the only one. I'm not dissing it btw, nor am I putting it down. IMO it takes courage to go for what you want, and if a guy is 24 and he says he needs help to get laid well at least he's making an effort.

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T'was a joke Sinan. No offence intended.

Mind you, sounds like Boyars Son has a problem with it. Big up to the ladies man. :laugh4:

Sry to double post

but I have no edit and I didnt mean whack of as in go away:no: . hes 24 after all~D

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T'was a joke Sinan. No offence intended.

Mind you, sounds like Boyars Son has a problem with it. Big up to the ladies man. :laugh4:

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This coming from someone who's scared of his own wife:laugh4:

HAHA ! :laugh4:

No problem guys, no offence taken. ~D

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This coming from someone who's scared of his own wife:laugh4:

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You'll learn someday...

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You'll learn someday...

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to be scared of saying how many partners you had on the net because you wife might catch you? ~:rolleyes:

Greetings men !

I think the purpose of this thread has basically been fulfilled. 100 votes are decent, and the figures speak for themselves.

I hope the information & advice I have posted here will help those men who wish to advance in their relationships with women.

If anyone needs any pointers or help with seduction, courtship or (multiple) relationships let me know.
Always practice safe sex and always leave the woman better than when you met her.

Be kind to God's greatest gift to man.

Those who are in Belgium, Holland, Luxembourg contact me if you wish to be part of Project Brabo.
If you are in other parts of the world but will be in Europe, contact me and we may be able to hook up anyway.

For those of you in the Middle East, Project Dubai is the premiere lair in the Middle East.
Shiekh is the group leader. This lair has great knowledgeable and focused men including ACE, ST and Talal (a Saudi!).
You are absolutely assured to learn a lot about women from them. This group has their own mansion, with swimming pool, jacuzzi and all, 5-10 minutes drive from venues that are hot with the classiest women in Dubai, and from around the world. Celebrity supermodels included.

If you feel there are things in your life you would rather change, don't hesitate. Go for it !
There are movements for improving your skills with women in all major cities in the world.

Good luck men & my best wishes for a better you !

SALUTE !