for some unknown reason, Rome always tempt me. no matter what faction I play. maybe because it is "Rome Total War".
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If the spirit moves you, go for it. :thumbsup: -M
Yeah, that could help - if you disband most of the units to the center and NE end of your Empire, that could save a lot of money. -M
Thanks Jirisys, I think this one has more character than a faceless Roman Legionary...with Lorica Segmentata. Plus it helps that it's the face of my current faction leader.
New Update:
In the Summer of 134, Tb. Cursor was overseeing the construction of the siege works around Hierosolyma. The city was huge, and the administration of construction took him deep into the middle of the day. Being an old man of 62, his old body couldn't handle several hours of marching in the hot Judean sun. He caught heat stroke and died several days later, leaving his four legions in the care of M. Caesar. Caesar, for his part, had been able to see this event coming well in advance, as Cursor had been in poor health going into the campaign. He knew that one day, he would be the senior officer and, since he was no veteran, he did not feel it wise to maintain command of four legions. He could write to the Senate and request a replacement, but first he corresponded with his uncle, Decimus, on the matter. They both had their sources of information in Rome, and they both knew that the war on Gaul was extremely unpopular with the Senate. Now Decimus saw an opportunity to shore up his political security by seeing to it that the Legions in the Levant did not fall into the hands of a toady of the Senate, and help an old family friend at the same time: Spurius Octauius had spent the last ten years cooling his heels on Lesbos with neither command nor credit for his completion of the war on Pontos. So, on Decimus' suggestion, Marcus wrote to Octauius and requested that he fill the vacancy left by Cursor's death. A vigorous man of action, Octauius had considered his retirement little better than prison and, while he had little hope of reconciliation with the Senate, he knew that another command could not make matters worse than they already were. Moreover, it would feel good to be back on campaign. He accepted.
The reaction in the Senate was mutinous. The Optimates and the moderates loudly lamented the decline of their ancestral customs. What audacity! For a mere legate to presume to bestow Imperium in place of the Senate! The Populares responded vociferously, pointing out that Octauius was the most experienced commander in the Empire, but their voices were lost in the uproar. The Senate immediately voted on whether another man should be sent to relieve Octauius of command, but D. Sempronius Gracchus issued his veto and the motion failed. Thus Spurius' Imperium remained neither confirmed nor repudiated, and the conservatives in the Senate continued to stew.
As if to reinforce the position held by the Populares, Octauius promptly captured Hierosolyma. Out of respect for the Jews though, he enslaved no one and even issued a decree that no temples were to be allowed within the city, except for those dedicated to the Jews' One God. In Egypt C. Scipio took Pselkis while the reinforcements from Africa finally conquered Hibis. It was at this point that a messenger from the South arrived: in the wake of declining Ptolemaic power, the territories of the upper Nile had revolted to the tribes of the Saba, Rome's allies. Thus it seemed there was little left to do in Egypt. There were still warbands of the Hellenistic Pharaoh around, but they were weak. The pharaoh had run out of Klerouchs and thus had few Phalangitai. Their resistance was being mounted chiefly by native Egyptian warriors who, for all their bravery, were not equipped to fight against modern armies. One such warband even fell to a greatly-outnumbered army led by K. Valerius Messalla. Clearly the Ptolemaic dynasty was dying.
After rebuilding Bibracte's broken government, Decimus moved north and took Bratosporios and Cenabum in rapid succession. Since the former bordered on the lands of the Germani, he decided to confer on it the status of a Roman Province, in order that it might afford greater protection to Gaul as a whole. It was around this time that his soldiers began to refer to him with the cognomen "Gallicus," perhaps on the encouragement of his lieutenant, A. Scipio. Now he continued West and lay siege to Dariortum, the last hold-out of the Aedui Confederacy. At the same time, he commissioned the recruitment of four new legions in Tolosa and Massalia, and sent them north to provide a strong deterrent to the Suebi. It was at this time that the Aedui, realizing that they were close to being completely destroyed, attacked and seized the peaceful settlement of Lemonum. Now it became all the more important that Caesar Gallicus destroy the Aedui, lest the region of Gaul dissolve into utter chaos.
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not exactly an empire, but my lastest campaign (even while I got busy lately), grows into a really interesting turn, and incidentally looks like some kind of prelude to World war...
Turtling with Sweboz (H/M), 243 BC - Using EB-BI, and giving extra money to ai via add_money (and several alterations to edu)
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After a series of distatrous wars at their french holdings, the royal family of Arvernii choose to migrate into Austria (actually, I teleport them near Gawjam-Bastarnoz after a big stack of them want to besiege Swebostraustastamnoz, while all their cities in the west are besieged by Aedui (some kinda stupid move rigtht? first, they are my allies! as they seek suicide to clash with my gold chevroned stack). And as I want, they capture them, and start a sprawling new Austrian Empire of Boii (with monetary help of course), after some time sitting near Gawjam Silengoz, I decide to give it to them to stop their drooling mouth, and teleport most of them into the south afterwards, now we're still allied...
I also pimpin the Casse with extra money, and now, they are start their Casse landing script, and start to gain some grounds on the Continent. Interestingly, they did go to war with Aedui first, but then they made peace after taking the Dutch, and now allied with them instead.
Aedui is doing good, but after gaining Arvernii lands, they are stagnant now... looks like the French Republicans have lost their momentum to unite all french, because the Royalty fled to Austria and can't be executed.
Lusotana Kick Kart-hadast ass from Iberia, pretty much without any help, and grow into considerable power, allied themself with Me
Did Romaioi Barbaroi are doing good, currently at war with the Austrians, and gain some ground on Illyria, still allied with Karthadast, and made peace with Epeirotes...
Epeirot are still in Yugoslavia, somehow start a war with Arvernii, lose, and now they become protectorate of the Austrians...
Getai are still stucked in Poland, not expanding much despite I give them a lot of money... must be corrupted or somewhat with their leaders...
The Sauromatae are now formed proper Soviet Union, still allied with Saka, and start enroaching Austria...
Makedonia and Hellenes are still on wars about who had the right to use makedonia.... as Hellenes still call them with Fyrom, and they responed by taking on off Corinth, Athenai, and Demetrias....
Pontos has grow into Ponttoman Empire, covering much of the Turkey...
Hayasdan are sleeping and not doing much... looks like they are affraid enroaching the Soviets now...
The Iranians are still Holding themself in the east. Due to many WMD stacks they sit near Babylon and Persepolis (several fullstacks)
Pahlava and Baktria not expanding much, maybe they only selling goats and grow opium now...
People's Kingdom of Saka are harassing Iranians now, and sometimes bullying the Pahlavistan and baktrikistan too... but looks like they had another business to go arround... maybe pro-democratic demonstration in their far east holdings?
The Ptolemeans will made Khadaffi Proud, as they are holding Israellian lands now...
Karthadast are dominated by anti Barcid sentiments, and I think they have degrade into some kind of Pirate Nations... looks like the Barbary States...
Here is my Romani Campaign. I'm a little ahead of schedule, conquering greece, but I guess that will leave me with plenty of time to prepare for the upcoming Third Punic War. Should be interesting. I've been trying to stick as closely as possible to a historical timeline (which took considerable restraint), which made the game A LOT more interesting. This is actually the longest I have ever been able to stick with a campaign.
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I've been roleplaying my FMs a little. Quintus Claudius Nero was one of my most promising generals and I had high hopes for him becoming a reformator, but alas, he decided that I was an incompetent leader and is starting trouble, wherever he goes :furious3:
Nice KH expansion there... (not to mention Rome, of course!)
What's that dark grey faction?
Well, I have been helping them out in Asia Minor a lot. That gave me something to do, during those long years, when I didn't have any wars scheduled
AS? For some reason they are a darker shade of grey around Alexandria.... no idea why
No, I don't mean that. Syria has another Grey than Bythinia for example. There are two grey colours, a dark one and a brighter one. Am I the only one who sees this?
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A Rhomaioktonoi picture is worth a thousand Rhomaioktonoi words.
It's a transliteration thing, greek's a saintly language...
Summary of this crusade:
The Basileus of Aedui gathered all his initial troops and took out the Arverni, standard stuff. Taking Gergova was a little costlier than was expected. After the Arverni are dead and gone 4 depleted units of bataroas and 1/3 of a unit of leu epos were remainders of the initial forces. All the while Jebi was rampaging his sicily stack with Nellies against the One True Barbaroi....
The Basileus ton Basileon of Romaioktonoi decided that the Aedui must expand it's frontiers. A message was sent to the Basileus of Aedui and they quickly expanded their borders. Bononia, Segesta, Patavium, Massalia and etc... one by one they fell to mighty swords of The Romaioktono Dominion of Aedui. The Aedui army was simple: The Strategos and his horse guard and the 4 units of hardened swordsmen plus the veteran unit of cavalry, supported by levies of spearmen and slingers... The spearmen acted as fodder, the slingers rained holy death, the swordsmen cut down the foes and the horsemen provided the coup de grace. All was well.
Around 245 BC, His saintness, the Klibanarophoros ton Rhomaioktonon sent a messenger to the Basileus of the Aedui. A particular german tribe had the seeds of Herecy planted within them: Philromaios-ism. These treachous fiends abandoned their identity as humans and begun rampaging through Germania, edging slowly towards the Romaioktono Dominion of the Aedui. Alarmed, the Basileus enlisted Arthur(, the future king of the Britons) and declared a minor crusade against the Heretics.
Arthur did his charge well, and Duguntz aided him by sending a unit of heavily armed kinsmen, hand picked from his own retainers. These men later provided the inspiration for the Maille-guards. The Herecy was soon stopped, and the Basileus begun to witness the potential of Arthur.
The Crusade agains the heretics was ending when The One True Barbaroi gained an advantage against Jebi. The Eperiotes immediately declared war on Barbaropolis, and provided some of the pressure in Jebi's stead as he gathered his strength. However, Barbaropolis was angered by the falling of the Heretics- their fanboys and supporters. As the last of the heretic stronghold fell, Barbaropolis began to march against the Romaioktono Dominion of Aedui.
Arthur would not have that. Armed with the Bartixian death spear, he rallied and bunch of Bartix worshippers to strip naked and arm themselves. The One True Barbaroi must not be allowed to live.
Barbaropolis made many piecemeal attacks on Bononia. The failed epicly, losing many of their fanboy parody of generals to the spears of Bartix. Their mouths shall spill Pro-Roman filth no more. The war was in fact, becoming rather fun and artistic. Arthur began inventing various ways to exterminate the Heinous Romans. The war dragged onto the Winter of 225.
While the States of Italia have learned the error of their ways (either that or becoming another piece of Arthur's artwork) and pledge their effort against Barbaropolis, The Polis of the One True Barbaroi still stands. Frustrated by the playful inaction of young Arthur, Theos Basileus ton Basileon Maion Maroneios temporily took control of Arthur's body while he was asleep (he was tired from making 'Roman-Candles' for his mommy) and renewed the Crusade.
The walls of Barbaropolis was flimsy, the will of the Barbaroi was weak. Maion, the god king of kings all Romaioktonoi, saw no point in using any sophisticated strategies. He turned a few captured Philromaioi into kebab n fed them to his chickens. The cowardly romans quickly opened their gates in fear and Barbaropolis was taken.
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How shall this campaign continue? What shall be the fate of the barbaroi that dwell in Barbaropolis? How shall they be slaughtered?
Did you have to do that? It's quite familiar, maybe a page earlier? A look at your faction leader would probably be a lot more informative about your Aedui Empire.
What's with the "h", you say Rhomaioktonoi and your sig userbar says Romaioktonoi.
~Fluvius
Roma was often transliterated into Greek with a rough breathing mark, because Rhoma was the Greek word for "strength." Thus it was convenient propaganda for the Romans in the east to add a rough breathing mark to the name of their city. There were even many Easterners who worshiped the goddess Rhoma as a personification both of the city and of strength.
But I agree, that was uncalled for. -M
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Started my Macedonian campaign over a week ago and hot dam I'm having fun. I can see why people like doing AAR's with the Macedonians their RP potential is fantastic. Plus once you get the monkey off your back which are the Eperiots taking Greece is simple. First moves i did was first taking Athens then focuing all my attention on the Eperoits. I pushed them off the Greek Peninsula and isolated them on Italy. Though this lead to fears of Eperoits overtaking Rome (real fear since they had taken Capua) so i allied with Rome and took Taras from them.
They've for the last oh several decades barely have hanged onto Capua with about 6 generals and 2 butti infanty stationed there. After I took Sparte I began using it as an exclusive training ground for all Macedonian FM's building a top lvl education building there and having them all undergo the Spartan Agode. Its been real succesful in churning out quality FM's. I then took Crete, Rhodos, and killed the Hellens off for good at Peregamon. I then bribed Saradis from the Sel's who were my allies at the time. Got me a transgression message from them lol. After that Pontos seiged Byzantium several times to no avail (so much so got my FM there hating Easterners) thanks to the Phalanx street defense tactic using Levy phalanx's.
I then killed Pontos off by sending off two Royal Imperial Armies using the Commander shown here and my Faction Leader afterwards we took Salamis and Alexandreia from the Ptolomies using the Royal Imperial Armies (basically of similair compositon each though my Faction leader has less Heavy Pelasti and a 1 talen seige engine. I made the Royal Imperial Armies trying to cut down my massive surplus which i mainly got from my lvl 2 Mines I've built across Asia Minor and the ones i got in Rhegion, and upper territories of Macedonia. Been thinking of claiming that last Indepdent City that lies between me and Getai but having mustered the proper force yet to take and hold the city.
Also if your wondering how Rome got so much money I purhcased Taras from them for intial payment of 20,000 and regular tribute of 2,500 each turn for the next 10 years. (yes im generous I want those dam Romans to survive and build a dam Huge city already... I want my reformed Phalanxes :( ) So im at war with Egypt, Carthage, high tensions with Sel due to their two stacks as seen at Salamis, and allied with Haydasan, Rome, and ironically also allied with the Iberians.
lulz right after i posted my pic and status update things changed drastically in my game. Basically Carthage, Sel and Egypt have all allied to wage war against me more effectively they think :). So i got the entire African continent plus the Sel Empire into a Allied Coalition force against me. I feel special.
Then show them wt the sons of Megas ALexandros are made of! TO WAR!!! ALL HAIL MAKEDONIA!!!!
Also, NEVER EVER turn your back from Barbaropolis. Those fiends will always bite you in the ass. Best you exterminate them before they pour into gaul, or else 50 years from now you'll be fighting stack after stack of.....Vigiles.
No... NOOOOOOO Vigiles everywhere... make them go awaaaayyyyy. Now that I kicked those barbaroi out of barbaropolis, they're confined to Taras and sicily, and I receive stack after stack of... Akonkistai... and couples of levy hoplite... what a challenge. but I can' get rid of 'em as my war against those spaniards drain my coffers... bloody bastards
I'm keeping the Romans alive merely to get the Time of March event triggered to get my reforms. Once thats done I'm going to get rid of them. Taras itself is protected by 4 Levy Phalanx, 4 Krete Archers, 4 Sammite Heavy Infantry and 2 Campain Calvary (Relatively the same in Syracousi and Rhegion).
Ptolemaioi has already suffered the warth of Leonidos Argeades commander of the 2nd Royal Imperial Army near Heirosylma their new Capital in a stunning victory which only cost 13 Macedonian lives for almost 2500 of Ptolemaioi. It showed Macedonian supremacy of arms. (their army mostly composed of several Hellenic Medium Phallanx, several Heavy Pelasti, and native hellenic spearmen)
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Your army is of very good quality! No wonder those Ptolemaioi were destroyed so easily!
~Fluvius
That's what you call an unbeatable army... Is it even fun playing with all hugely experienced units, most of them even elites? You can practicaly conquer half the world with such a stack and a good doctor as a commander, without even a sweat :)
I've gotten pretty much a Macedonian ironclad defense for my walled cities that border my rivals. Its a two teir defense.
1st Defense Tier (Walls themselves)
Stationed Units: 4 Heavy Infantry/Hellenic Spearmen, 4 Archer units
2nd Defense Teir: (2-4 Main Street pathways)
4 Phalanx units
Basically even if they manage to take the walls ill still have the phalanxes in the streets for them to contend with. Havnt had a chance to really put it to the test yet but its basically a combo of two of proven defense stradegies.
Yes lol the Macedonians are richer than the 4 major factions combined so they can afford it. My navy also has already 4 units of those huge hellenic ships. I got three royal armies now all of which have similiar compositions with minor differences in supporting light-heavy infantry to the Elite phalanx.Quote:
Your army is of very good quality! No wonder those Ptolemaioi were destroyed so easily!
This mite sound noob but, how do u get the full map option? i.e. so its all explored for you. Also if you use this option do u get ton revert back to normal with the shroud?
Iv always explored my maps but i would like to try it on this one campaign i have :)
He means the "toggle_fow" cheat, which shows you all the map. I use it, when I want to post screenshots here
I use my starting spies and diplomats to explore the whole world (map information, exploring).
After that you can always right click the territory to see who really is the owner.
~Fluvius
Yes.. Yes it is. I'm having fun using the Hellenistic model army. As much as I like Rome i've grown to dislike their overly simplistic army of Heavy Infantry....Besides the AI never beats me in combat on land anyways unless they attack a vulnerable stack of about 1-2 units that i sent out to mobilize with the rest of my army.
I could conquer all the world if i wanted though wont be able to have the FM's and garrison troops to keep it lol. Trying to restrict my conquest speed by always having +2 FM's than the number of settlements i own.
Try fighting using accurate Roman legions then. It involves far more skirmishers and lighter-armed hastati. If you're interested, Quintus Sertorius' guide provides details on accurate Roman combat. https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...ntus+Sertorius -M
Wow.. this thread has grown to be quite popular, with 352 posts and 11 000 views.. Keep up the good work everyone! :thumbsup:
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Hayasdan campaign
After withstanding the AS attacks for ten years, they just died down on me.
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Epeiros campaign
Owning SPQR in the old sweat and blood style.
I did use historically accurate im talking about when you hit Marian Reforms.
Sure you can use allies to fill in the ranks of... almost everything else you need besides Heavy Infantry but meh i got tired of exporting large quanties of needing auxilaries to the needed theaters of war from across the world over....
Agreed - it's one of those little details that makes the game come alive and feel like the real classical world. But to each his own. -M
This is Glorious day!
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thank to some weird bug. I was just playing with my diplomat. I've take everything from Hayasdan. I Kill their faction heirs, faction leader take all settlement and left Armavir with its king alone. then I open diplomatic scroll and offer: phraaspa, karbala and Mtskheta and accept or we will attack. then they just became my protectorate. mwahahahaha!
WOW NICE!
Very well done Plutoboyz, that is a nice Saka empire! I see you resolved the money issue too!
~Fluvius
Capturing a couple more Middle Eastern territories and giving up Asodat would make you the EB-map portion of the Mongol Empire:skull:
Congrats, Plutoboyz! Nice empire. -M
well, actually I have more evil plan. My force are divided into 2 division. north and south.
The north will capture most balkan, then devide into two. north1 will go to west conquer Germanic, Celtic and Iberian. north2 will go capture Ilyria then Raze italy then wait for south2.
The south will be devided into two south1 will dominate anatolia and then greece, south2 will devastate arabia, then Egypt. after that join with North2 for Carthage.
thanks, and beware! my forces already in Balkan. >:D
Real nice Saka empire Pluto! May your enemies shiver in fear. :P
If you're planning on building the ships in the Baltic, have fun with the pirates.... In my Sweboz campaign my invasion of Britian is indefinitely stalled because there are two full stacks of pirates, as well as 5 or 6 mini stacks with only 3-4 ships running around. I can handle the little stacks, but the two full stacks are pretty much impossible because they always sit right next to each other, which means that if I attack them they reinforce each other and I'm facing 40+ ships at once. I certainly don't have the money for 40+ ships of my own...
When I conquered the world with Baktria, those fullstack pirates went all the way to Rhodes, I amassed a fleet there (A LOT ships and scored double heroic victories, because I had them attack me!)
But thats with sturdy Hellene ships, not with Sweboz, that would be very hard!
~Fluvius
for my invasion of britain as Sweboz, I embarked my full stack on two ships, merged together, at Bacagos (the ships of corse have been attacked by pirates, but they didn't sank and escaped near the coast of britain, with 8 men still alife on them...) at bacagos, a waiting army embarked, I disembarked them on britain, and the next turn my flotilla was sunked, so my army was standing without any back up on unfriendly territory, after several heroic victory, i managed to conquered (and destroy) casse, with the same army, same general... He had 10 stars (at the end of the conquest)...
I finally got it to work! :cry:
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Nice to know that you finally got that screenshot capturing thing to work, Madoushi. Nice Makedonian empire, that faction is really quite something.
Here is a brief summary on my empire, with a lot of info I haven't shared with you guys before. I've lost all savegames up to 193 BC, that's why I lack pictures in this entry.
The Antigonid ΒΑΣΕΛΕΙΣ ΤΟΝ ΑΡΧΕ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΕ (and other noteworthy members of the Antigonid line):
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1. ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ ΑΝΤΙΓΟΝΟΣ ΓΟΝΑΤΑΣ: (Reign 272 - 259 BC), it was he who defended the Makedonian homelands from ΠΥΡΡὉΣ, ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ ΤΟΝ ΕΠΕΙΡΟΣ and conquered the southern Hellenic City states, Athenai and Sparte. Before his death he launched an invasion of Epeiros, but succumbed to a fever before any decisive battles were fought.
2. ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ ΑΛΚΥΟΝΕΟΣ ΝΙΚΑΤΟΡ: (Reign 259 - 228 BC) In his youth he conquered Dardonia as well as the islands of Crete and Rhodos. Later when his father died it was who he took command of the royal forces and defeated ΠΥΡΡὉΣ and thus put an end to the Epeirot threat to Makedonia. Rather than establishing a Satrapy he integrated Epeiros directly into the Makedonian homelands and many Epeirots were given Makedonian citizenship, which ensured their loyalty. When the Ptolemaio attacked the Arche Seleukeia and conquered most of their western holdings, ΑΛΚΥΟΝΕΟΣ responded quickly. By 232 BC he had conquered all of Asia Minor and the Levantine. When he entered Hierosolyma he made sure his army made as little damage as possible, and he allowed the Ioudaioi to practise their own religion and all temples devoted to another god than the Judean one were banned within the city walls. The Ioudaioi were even allowed to keep their independence and would only have to form a strong alliance with the Makedones and the Ioudaioi hailed ΑΛΚΥΟΝΕΟΣ as a grand saviour. One day when ΑΛΚΥΟΝΕΟΣ was going for a walk a young man walked up to him with a dagger in his hand. He stabbed him 12 times in the chest, surprised, with his dying breath ΑΛΚΥΟΝΕΟΣ said: “What was it all for?” The young man was a poor junior officer from Athenai who was enraged by the lack of loot during the conquest of Hierosolyma and whose parents back in Hellas depended on the money he sent them. In a matter of seconds after the Basileus’s death the murderer was cut down by the Hypaspistai Royal corps.
3. ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ ΠΕΡΣΕΥΣ (Reign 228 – 212 BC) When his father battled the Ptolemaio in Minor Asia and the Levant, ΠΕΡΣΕΥΣ “took the fight” to the enemy’s “homeland”, Aigyptos.
The Ptolemaio did not suspect this and was forced to flee to Meroe while Makedonia conquered all of their other holdings. Later after the death of ΑΛΚΥΟΝΕΟΣ they were forced to sign a very humiliating peace treaty with the ΑΡΧΕ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΕ.
When ΠΕΡΣΕΥΣ was crowned ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ the ΑΡΧΕ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΕ entered a period of peace and prosperity one that would last until the betrayal of the Arche Seleukeia in 216 BC.
A long and bitter war between the former allies was at hand, one that ended in Makedonian victory and the inclusion of Hayasdan and Babylonia in the ΑΡΧΕ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΕ.
In the spring of 214 BC the forces of Kart-Hadast without a warning or declaration of war, invaded Aigyptos. ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ ΠΕΡΣΕΥΣ rode out to meet them and won many a heroic victories. But at the end there were too many of them and he and his mobile forces were annihilated by the sons of Baal-Hammon, and thus he perished in 212 BC, leaving the throne to his second son ΣΕΛΕΦΚΟΣ aged only 17 years old.
4. ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ ΣΕΛΕΦΚΟΣ (Reign 212 – 195)
When ΣΕΛΕΦΚΟΣ arrived in Aigyptos he pushed the Kart-Hadastei out of there with great difficulty. He conquered Kyrene and seized the site of the Oracle of Ammon known as Ammonion. A prophesy was offered to him by the Oracle, though being an ignorant and anti-religious, inbreed buffoon, he rejected the offer and went further westwards, towards Kart-Hadast. News arrived that the ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ’s son had died under suspicious circumstances, and because of these turn of events the ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ fell into a deep depression, one that interfered with his “work”.
For a short period of time he held the city in his grasp, but was in 198 BC forced to fall back towards Aigyptos. The Kart-Hadastei was impressed by his prowess in combat and so they wanted the war to come to an end. Neither side hade anything to win on prolonged conflict, for both the ΑΡΧΕ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΕ and the Safot Softim biQarthadast, had lost many men and mnai. So in 197 BC there was at last peace between the two rival nations. On his return to Aigyptos in 195 BC he was assassinated, by a robed figure, seemingly of Makedonian origin. He was able to escape but, he dropped an important piece of evidence, the signet ring of ΠΕΡΔΙΚΚΑΣ (Perdikkas), the corrupt and selfish brother of the Basileus. He himself claimed that the assassin was of Punic origin, sent from Kart-Hadast. He had planed to proclaim himself as ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ and his son ΕΥΒΟΥΛΙΔΕΣ as his heir, currently being in Syria. The popular Strategos ΙΣΟΔΟΡΙΑΝΟΣ and his family however decided to stand against this great injustice for the greater good of the ΑΡΧΕ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΕ. With no ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ ruling the ΑΡΧΕ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΕ at the moment, civil war seemed inevitable.
Alexandros, his family and the ΒΑΣΕΛΕΙΣ of the Alexandrid line:
(Since I’ve already written about many of these things this part is a bit short)
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ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, the nephew of ΑΝΤΙΓΟΝΟΣ ΓΟΝΑΤΑΣ were put in charge of an army and was to Illyria, a lawless region from which many pirates hailed from. The intent of this trip was to stop the constant pirate raids on Makedonia, and to hopefully subjugate the people of the land. Before travelling to Illyria however he married an Epeirote princess named Chryse. She was the only surviving member of the Aeacid dynasty and daughter of ΠΥΡΡὉΣ ΤΟΝ ΕΠΕΙΡΟΣ and the marriage was to cement the relations between the two families. Thus the family of ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ and ΠΥΡΡὉΣ ΤΟΝ ΕΠΕΙΡΟΣ was forged into one and all children of ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ could claim descent from ΠΥΡΡὉΣ and even ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ (!)
ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ nevertheless dealt with the pirate problem and he and his descendants were to govern Illyria and eventually further even regions further westwards.
In 265 BC the First Romaioi war brook out, and ΑΓΙΣ, first born son of ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ led the Makedonian forces in opposition. The war ended with Makedonian triumph and the Romaioi were forced to part with northern Italia, a region the ΑΡΧΕ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΕ gave to their keltoi allies, the Arveni to act as a buffer.
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1. ΜΕΓΑΣ ΙΣΟΔΟΡΙΑΝΟΣ (Born 235 BC) (Reign 193- 173 BC)
When the Second Romaioi war broke out ΙΣΟΔΟΡΙΑΝΟΣ was given command of the makedonian forces. During his campaign, he was fascinated by the road systems of the Romaioi and also their military composition. After barely surviving an ambush by the flexible forces of the SPQR, he decided that a Makedonian version of these troops would be useful, and thus the Makedonian Thorakitai was born.
After the Romaioi was properly subjugated by his forces he left his uncle in charge of Italia, and set sail towards Makedonia. For Civil War seemed inevitable and ΙΣΟΔΟΡΙΑΝΟΣ, being an unselfish person could not let this tyrant impostor take the throne of Makedonia in his filthy hands.
ΙΣΟΔΟΡΙΑΝΟΣ was crowned ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ in the winter of 193 BC, and left for the Syria where ΠΕΡΔΙΚΚΑΣ and his few supporters were. When he arrived he fought a fierce battle against the forces of ΠΕΡΔΙΚΚΑΣ . In the end his veterans easily defeated the forces of the impostor. ΠΕΡΔΙΚΚΑΣ son was spared, for he was too young to be put to blame for his father’s crimes, this choice was questioned by many however. ΙΣΟΔΟΡΙΑΝΟΣ were able to return to Pella the next spring. During the following years he made radical military reforms, completely replacing the phalangitai with Thorakitai as the new rank and file soldiers.
Vast building projects across Makedonia were being erected, among those romaioi styled roads, which would help the armies of Makedonia to quickly reach their destination.
When the Second Kart-Hadstei War began in 173 BC ΙΣΟΔΟΡΙΑΝΟΣ sent his son ΝΕΙΚΩΝ, a man destined for greatness, to Africa.
ΙΣΟΔΟΡΙΑΝΟΣ pasted away quietly in his sleep a week after his son’s departure, knowing that for the time being the ΑΡΧΕ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΕ was safe.
2. ΝΕΙΚΩΝ ΝΙΚΑΤΩΡ (Reign 173- 144 BC) (I’m going through this quickly since I’ve already written about it some pages back) ΝΕΙΚΩΝ ΝΙΚΑΤΩΡ won many heroic victories against the Kart-Hadast and conquered all their lands. He even conquered all of Iberia and started training Thorakitai from amongst the Libikoi and Keltoi as a sort of auxiliary force, the Thorakitai’s training and equipment were also to be financed by the state after ΝΕΙΚΩΝ ΝΙΚΑΤΩΡ’s refoms.
ΝΕΙΚΩΝ ΝΙΚΑΤΩΡ also gave Makedonian citizenship to all Hellenes within the ΑΡΧΕ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΕ, and financed major art projects around the ΑΡΧΕ. Hellenic culture flourished under his rule and all of mainland Hellas was included directly into the Makedonian homelands.
He just like his father died quietly in his sleep in the capital aged 75.
3. ΜΕΓΑΣ ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΔΕΣ ΝΙΚΑΤΩΡ ΣΟΤΕΡ (Reign 144 - ? BC)
Explanation of Greek names:
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Comments are appreciated. :P
@Arthur
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That was a fine read! I always like the story telling from the point of the ruler's reign, wether it is about the actions of a historical ruler in a history book or a fictional one like in this mini aar, I really liked reading it. The details like the Thorakitai reform and the Roman road adaption made it even better. You also spiced things up with some good old Hellenic palace intrigue. If I were to report my campaigns like this it wouldnt be much fun because it would only be about succes and the conqueror of this or that. Yours has more roleplaying and some setbacks.
Keep it up!
~Fluvius
Nice Story Arthur. Why not making an official AAR ?
Wow thanks guys! Tell you what, since I got so nice comments/feedback from you two I actually might start an official AAR :2thumbsup:. Though it probably not be updated too often and will take a while until I start doing the AAR. And I already have some things planned for the ΑΡΧH ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚH, hopefully things that will be interesting/surprising etc.
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The Aedui confederation was almost broken. Dariortum had fallen to the troops of Caesar Gallicus, and the only city remaining was Lemonum. In the time it took the Proconsul to establish order in Dariortum and march south, however, Aedui supporters within the city of Avaricum staged a revolt that expelled the peaceful Arverni ruler from the city. Apart from Burdigala, the entirety of Aquitania was in armed revolt. Caesar knew that the revolt had to be put down quickly, lest the surrounding provinces, now at peace with Rome, take the insurrection as inspiration to create trouble. With that in mind, he assigned his lieutenant, A. Scipio to attack Avaricum with two legions while he himself took on the larger Gallic army at Lemonum. As he approached the city, Caesar's scouts reported that the Gallic army had drawn up and was prepared for battle. The enemy was numerous, but largely composed of raw recruits, no match for Caesar's veterans. After a brief battle they routed, and the city surrendered itself to the Proconsul, who duly spared them the shame of slavery. A few days later, news arrived that Scipio had encountered even less resistance and had taken few casualties at Lemonum. Breathing a sigh of relief, Caesar took up the quill and sent a dispatch to the Senate: "gallia est pacata."
News of Caesar's victory was well-received by all in the Senate, although each faction had its different reasons. Associates and Political Allies of the Proconsul lauded his victory and immediately began to speak of awarding a triumph. The moderates offered praise to the gods that at least the war was over, while the conservatives crowed that any pretext for prolonging Caesar's consulship had died with the war. Once Caesar laid down his Imperium, he would be fair game in the courts. This inconvenience was not overlooked either by Caesar or the Populares. Thus, the tribune D. Sempronius Gracchus called together the popular assembly and delivered a motion that Caesar be allowed to run for a second consulship in absentia. The motion passed overwhelmingly. The Senate was in uproar. Even the moderates protested this break with constitutional government, and when Caesar won the consulship of 125, tension turned into violence. The Senate voted to declare Caesar an enemy of the Res Publica, but Gracchus issued his veto. The Senate ignored this gesture and sent the Consular D. Cornelius Arvina north to confront the Proconsul. Meanwhile they sent Caesar's new colleague, a conservative named Cn. Valerius Flaccus across the Adriatic to take command of the legions of Macedonia and Illyricum and bring them back to Italy for the defense of the Capital.
In early spring of 125, the forces of Caesar and Arvina met in Etruria.
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Fighting was harsh, as eight well-disciplined and experienced legions struggled against each other.
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Caesar's right wing hovered on the brink of defeat for almost an hour, enduring a withering attack from the forces of the Senate.
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The left wing and center were faring much better, however, and soon the majority of the Republican forces were routing.
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With more of his men freed up, Caesar flanked the forces battering his right wing and completed his victory. As his soldiers were picking through the dead, they found Arvina, still alive, trapped underneath the weight of his dead horse. As per orders, they brought him to their Imperator. Arvina offered Caesar his surrender, and with a kiss on the cheek, the Consul pardoned him and tasked him with returning to Rome with his instructions for the Senate: in this state of emergency they were to pass the Senatus Consultum Ultimum and start drawing up plans to allocate land for his veterans. Meanwhile the Consul began to prepare to cross to Greece and face his colleague.
This was never to come to pass, however, for before long, information began to trickle in about what had occurred in Greece. Flaccus had made his way to Macedonia to pick up the two legions stationed there, and at the same time sent a message to the propraetor of Illyricum, C. Claudius Pulcher, with instructions to meet him at Ambrakia with the two legions allotted to his province. Pulcher was an old Aristocrat who had long been a member of the Optimates and was thus considered trustworthy. Among his friends, however, he had frequently voiced monarchic sentiments, and he was very ambitious. Seeing the possibilities of Civil Conflict, he disobeyed Flaccus' instructions and marched east. In the mountains dividing Macedonia from Epeiros, he ambushed the Consul and his two legions.
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Flaccus was caught off-guard by this betrayal and thus, his forces were quickly routed by Pulcher's men. In the wake of this disaster, Flaccus presented himself to the Propraetor and offered unconditional surrender. Pulcher had him executed. He then made preparations to send his two legions to guard Macedonia while he traveled alone with his bodyguard to Rome.
Caesar received his new ally with open arms, praising him for bringing a swift end to the conflict and supporting the rights of the Consul, though he took care not to mention Pulcher's treatment of the other Consul for that year. The Senate began to go through the process of selecting a replacement for his colleague, but Caesar demurred. He told them he would serve the remainder of his term sine collega. Disgruntled, but happy that there was to be no further violence, the Senate accepted and, on the urging of the populares, awarded Caesar a triumph, which he celebrated in fall of the same year.
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Wow, so the Romaioi are deploying Legiones Sacae to fight Caesar?:clown:
Other way around :yes: Caesar is deploying Legiones Sacae to defeat the Senate. :clown: Speaking of which, I just want to offer my thanks to Arthur, for helping me to mod EB so that I could have the legiones sacae. -M
Nice and interesting read.
Maybe you should have switched banners of though :clown:
I would have, except I don't know how. Any advice? -M
Open your RTW-EBmap, open the EB-map in it, open the Preferences-map in that one, and you should find a txt-file named 'preferences'. Mine has a line "SHOW_BANNERS:FALSE" in it. I guess yours has a "SHOW_BANNERS:TRUE". Just change it.
kind regards,
Andy
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This is the first time when I managed to play beyond 200 BC! Though my campaign is still far from completion.
It's 199 BC, EB on Alx.exe, Atraphoenix legions mod with some changes to the EDU (-4 to attack for all spearmen and some minor changes). The question is - what faction am I controlling? (hint - it's not Casse)
Averni?
rome, trying to follow a near accurate conquest timeline...?
Arverni because they always loose against aedui....Only hold gergovia
Hehe... It's Koinon Hellenon
I was going to say that Kyrene rebels to the AS and not the KH, so you were most likely them.
That map is pretty good for 199, usually by that time on my games, AS or Ptolemy are gone and the other one controls like half the map. It looks like the Ptolemies have the upper hand, but AS isn't done yet. Luso are also usually well into Gaul by that time.
I conquered Kyrene by myself and at the same time lost Trapezous to AS and Chersonesos to Eleutheroi
AS and Ptolemaioi are concentrated on me and therefore last 30 years or so ) Though recently I run short of money (no more than 30-35000 mnai) and accepted Ptolemaioi offer of protectorate. SPQR also made Aedui their protectorate so they are expanding northwest VERY slowly. Lusotannan almost lost a war agaist Qarthadastim but then I gave them loads of money and they started counter-offensive. Saka and Baktria look like fightimg AS together so Seleukeia is having trouble subjugating Baktria even after they had knocked out Pahlava
Thanks for the advice, Andy, I'll be sure to do that for the next battles I post.
Nice Empire, Skuda - maybe if you take Sardis from the AS, they could be persuaded to make peace with you - generally speaking, the AI only desires a state of war if they have a border with you. Eliminate that border and they'll give you peace. -M
Sounds like a plan :thumbsup: -M
Yeah nice empire Skuda.
(shameless bump)
There you go:
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This is my current Macedonian Campaign. I've been trying to pace myself, by playing a global police force and making sure no faction got too powerful. For example, I re-conquered most of Italy for my Roman allies, after Karthadast sacked Roma. Unfortunately I failed miserably in establishing a balance of power in the east, because I underestimated the Ptolemaioi and actually helped them take some AS settlements :disappointed: So now I am fighting off 2 stacks, full of Elite Phalanx units each turn, which is already getting a little old. The only way I even managed to take those two levant cities, was by sneaking a spy in there and then launching a naval attack, after he opened the gates... but now the reinforcements come knocking on my door every turn....
That's some Yellow Death you've got there... I don't envy you having to deal with all those phalangites:no:
Here's the Sweboz expansion, behold the mighty Germanic Kingdom, might ye all shiver in front of our gods!
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Ha, the year is 198 BC, and the formerly Makedonian imigrations have, finally, been repealed by Persians... I'm fighting on two fronts, Repelling stack after stack from Lusotan (blistering barnacle of bloody battles, fortunatly, with my bodyguard being the only one wearing effective armour, i can laugh at their AP weapons! MOUHAHAHAHAHA!) and fighting the Epeirotes on my eastern flank... my north east is.... COMPLETLY SECURE the AI having time to built stack after stack of triple gold chevron armies, and there's NO WAY I'll go play there... one problem, after gawjam-bastarnoz (my last settlement in order to fulfill my campaing requirement) revolted to me, a fullstack of horse archer took it almost free of casualty while decimating my whole army..., and there's a wall of fullstacks of Bionic AI soldiers under 10 stars generals wich effectively block my way till that last settlement... and I realise with.... pitty... that I'll have to carve my way threw epeirote, Sarmate, and Dacia, before reaching it from the south... many years of campaining in perspective...
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The finished product of my Ptolemaioi campaign. The last thing I did was conquer Pella from Epirus, leaving me with a severely depleted royal army.
I wish I could keep playing, but after I bought Lepki from Kart-Hadast the game no longer loaded my save games. :bigcry:
Did you change your faction color? It looks like the Seleukids were the ones to conquer all that...
Yeah, I changed it after I conquered the Seleukid lands. By that point it felt like I was playing a different faction, so I switched to that gray color. I'm not a big fan of it myself, so I'm still looking for a new one.
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My Eporite empire at Winter 200BC. Its been a fun campaign so far. Makedonia was the first to be wiped out, after taking Demetrias off of them their remaining two towns revolted (Korinth was taken by KH). So I was left to fight KH, it went on for a while, after taking Athens, Korinth and Sparte off them, their remaining two settlements rebelled. I found it amusing that both of those factions got wiped out by settlements revolting haha.
Now I'm just toying with the Romans, I'm not going to bother trying to destroy them, I'm just going to take Segestica and Patavium off of them and leave it to the Aedui to take Mediolanum, since they are my allies and don't show any signs of betraying me. I'm also having an on and off war with the Seleucids. I have an alliance with Pontos but it seems like they're going to betray me soon. They won't be too hard to deal with though I'm sure, they're pretty weak in the grand scheme of things at the moment.
Nice empire, it guess the Sweboz will attack you after defeating the Romans. Are the Getai your allies? If you play on VH you will propably have a lot of enemies soon.
Did they really rebel? That's unlikly to happen I would say. Where they destroyed right after you took Demetrias/Sparte? They often run out of family members, especially the KH when only rhodes is left.
Sweboz and Getai are my allies as well, I'm preparing for them, I don't think they're going to betray me quite yet. As for Makedonia and KH, that could have been that case of them having no family members left now that you bring it up, I didn't think of that and it does actually make sense.