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Finn and I never mention your name in our conversation. Why you are the one that feel that? :clown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cute Wolf
I am just guessing those units based on the appearance, well, I also not sure whether the answers are right or wrong:
and @ others:
a) I guess the guy in the left is Pontos Hetairoi because of purple color of the mantle, that's Pontos color...
b) The guy at right is Ptolemaioi, look at Serapis design on his shield...
c) The guy below is a variant of Parthian Cataphract in 1st cent BC, I simply googling that and found pic... I am not sure whether he is Pushtigbane or not...
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anubis88 is too paranoid
So you are onto me as well aye? You'll never get me ALIVE!! Muahahahaha *Evil dramatic laugh*Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonic
But seriously... A preview should be up any day now... I'm just waiting for someone to draw me a pretty map ;)
sorry, your mapper is still digging the catalyst resarch journal for his next researxh experiment...Quote:
Originally Posted by anubis88
Greetings Europa Barbarorum fans-
We are proud to present the third preview of our late campaing mod
Europa Barbarorum : Novus Ordo Mundi
Today we will present the
Ptolemaic Kingdom
https://i841.photobucket.com/albums/...t/bigptoly.gif
Does the symbol need an introduction? :clown:
Faction Description:
It has been almost 250 years since we Macedonians established ourselves as pharaohs in Egypt. Pharaos such as our ancestors Ptolemy Soter, Ptolemy Philadelphus and Ptolemy Epiphanes were during their reigns the strongest kings in the world, a title which only the contemporaray Seleucid Kings could challenge. The great king Epiphanes even managed to conquer Babylon, but was forced back home by uprisings. Uprisings that would shape much of our history. But our Empire was the strongest and richest in the known world, and perhaps even the borders beyond. Such was the power of the great house of Ptolemy ruling from the banks of the Nile.
Yet things have changed now.
The Ptolemaic dynasty has lost much if not all of it's former strenght. The alliance with the once strong city, now world superpower Rome, has degraded us to such a point, that the once mighty kings bow before the yearly voted consuls of the republic. The security of the state is at the mercy of the Romans, who dictate the policies of our kingdom. The once mighty state has became nothing but a breadbasket for the city of Aeneas.
Yet things can change again.
Civil strife was the main reason the Ptolemaic dynasty became so weak. The Greeks have proven they can live side by side with the natives. If this can be reached again, if the Ptolemaic kings can stop the home uprisings, then the power of the dynasty may be regained once more.
The Romans are in constant turmoil and yet they keep an eye watching over us. We can stop that. People around the Mediteranean have seen what a plague the Romans are. In the north of our lands, the mighty king Mithridates Eupator Dionysios regains his strenght even now while allied to the Mighty King of Kings Tigran, and in from the far west rumors are being whispered of a great leader who has seen the mistake in Roman ways, and has an army large enough to devastate the Republic.
But like us, the greatest fear the Romans have is that of civil strife. If a full scale civil war brakes out, that would be time to strike my pharaoh. Attack the Romans when they have no strenght to retaliate. Bring many lands to your domain which will bring with themselves many riches and soldiers to fuel your power.
Yet be warned. If you fail with your timing, the doom of our nation may be near. Even tough the Romans should be the main source of worry in the long run, at the moment there are neighbours that may not be as dangerous, yet are far closer to our homes.
But do not dispair great Pharaoh! Our kingdom is still rich and pround, and the armies an able king can recruit are still vast and well trained. Perhaps we may see the resurrection of our kingdom, as the leading power in the mediteranean, and the academic center of the world.
Perhaps...
https://i841.photobucket.com/albums/...ptolymap-1.jpg
(the map is purely WIP. The Ptolies probably won't have that much influence to the south)
The Ptolemaic Army
https://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...pantodapoi.gifhttps://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...akontistai.gifhttps://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...hendenotai.gifhttps://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...ol_toxotai.gifhttps://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...l_machimoi.gifhttps://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...halangitai.gifhttps://europabarbarorum.com/i/units..._peltastai.gifhttps://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...ureophoroi.gifhttps://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...thorakitai.gifhttps://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...oi_hippeis.gifhttps://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...nchophoroi.gifhttps://europabarbarorum.com/i/units..._cav_agema.gifhttps://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...ikon_agema.gif These are units from EB. you can see their descriptions at www.europabarbarorum.org
https://i841.photobucket.com/albums/...hureoPtoly.jpg
Thureophoroi
The Thureophoroi are the new class of infantry that was developed in the Hellenistic kingdoms. While they are not as armoured as in EB (they represent the less armoured Thureophoroi), they are still a decent line unit, but their lack of armour means they are more vulnerable than their heavier armed counterparts, the - and the Thorakitai.
They are armed with a Thureos shield, heavy javelins, a good quality spear and a helmet. They are a very mobile unit, that can be used for many tasks, altough it might crumble under severe pressure. The best use for the Thureophori is for flanikng an harrasing manouvers, but they hold their own against all but the heaviest cavalry.
https://i841.photobucket.com/albums/...oroi_Ptoly.jpg
Machairaphoroi
The Machairaphoroi are the regular sword-armed troops of the Hellenistic states. They are used both in battlefields and as a stationary police force, through the Diadochi kingdoms. They are basically thureophoroi with swords, or at least they can be used as such. These men are fairly cost efficient, and can be used in many battlefield roles, but they can't be expected to turn the tide in the thick of the battle, especially againts higher quality infantry.
Nonetheles, they are in invaluable part of the late succesor armies, and greatly complement the other mobile troops.
https://i841.photobucket.com/albums/...-tarantino.jpg
Tarantine Cavalry
Over time, the Tarentine cavalry became a sinonime to a well trained light skirmisher cavalry unit. While the ties to the city of Tarentum was lost, these men became a regular force for the Diadochoi armies. They are very well trained swift horsemen, employed especially to harass and demoralize the enemy army.
https://i841.photobucket.com/albums/...egio_ptoly.jpg
Ptolemaic cohortes Reformata/Gabiani
After the defeat of Carthage and the great Hellenistic kings Phillip V. and Antiochus III. the Great, Rome became the dominant power in the Mediteranean. The Ptolemaics were one of the first international allies of Rome, and they remained so trought their history. Once the Ptolemies were the most powerful state in the Mediteranean, but now they are almost a vassal to Rome.
Since the 2 nations were allied for almost 200 years at the start of the game, they became very close. And as such, Romans fought in the armies of the pharaoh many times; sometimes as auxiliary forces from the republic, other times as deserters, and also as a standing army of the Pharaoh. We have reports of Romans leaving their army in the service of the Ptolemaic kings (the Gabiniani), which had became over time completly allianeted with their homeland, and fiercly loyal to their new master. The Ptolemaics also welcomed any Roman that was willing to join their army, since they knew how good warriors they were.
For this reason we have decided to allow the Ptolemaics recruitment of Roman Legionaires.
Of course making this men loyal to the Pharaoh took it's toll. They were spoiled by the ruling classes, and forgo their discipline that made them the best regular infantry in the world. Yet this men are still great warriors, capable of not only holding a battle line, but to decisevely rout the enemy.
https://i841.photobucket.com/albums/..._general-1.jpg
Agema Hippeon
These men are the Agema, which means they are the elite part of any army. They are the fiercest warriors in the entire Ptolemaic kingdom, and are what enemies of the pharaoh fear most. While they may not be the same strenght as the Hetairoi of old, they are still battle winning shock troops, that can put to a bloody fight even the best cavalry in the world. Composed by various nationalities, they are loyal to the pharaoh to the death. They are armed with a stout aspis shield, a long lance, excellent quality armour and they also have a well armoured horse. If one want's to go to war with Rome, these are the men you should try to use to most, in order to bring yourself victory.
https://i841.photobucket.com/albums/...y_galatian.jpg
Galatian Heavy Swordsmen
A new version of the Galatians of EB
https://i841.photobucket.com/albums/..._cav_Ptoly.jpg
Hellenistic Skirmisher Cavalry
These are the medium skirmisher cavalry of the hellenistic kingdoms. They are decently armoured with a lynothorax, a good quality helmet and a strong aspis shield. They carry javelins and a sword? for close combat, and make a good adition to any army. They are best employed harrasing enemy troops, and striking at them, once their morale is down. They will give a good account of themselves in melee, but shouldn't be expected to fight spearmen or other heavy infantry. They are also good against cavalry.
These type of cavalrymen were common sight in late hellenistic armies. While they are far from an elite unit, they are very usefull and come in handy in many tasks. It would be wise to use them often.
Of course this is not the entire roster of the Ptolemaioi. Most of these units will be recruitable from the Ptolemaic starting domains. If a pharaoh were to expand, his armies would became much more diverse. I should also mention, that in EB NOM, the Ptolemaic Empire's color will be white.
Here's also a Sig, in order to show support for our mod:sweatdrop:
https://i841.photobucket.com/albums/...t/ptolyftw.jpg
I hope you enjoyed this mini-preview. Of course everything is WIP. Special thanks to FinnMacCumhail, who made these great units, and to LDC, who made the great looking Agema Hippeon.
NICE!
I hope I got the right vid, as I don't have sound here^^
anyway: man epic preview!! great job
First I wanted to praise your thureophoroi but then I saw that the others are awesome aswell :D
So basically the Ptolemaoi stopped using phalanxes in their armies and addopted a more Legionary/Theurophoroi approach. The combination is very interesting. But appart from Roman deserters and merc which may had their equipment similar to thier Roman cousins, I quess that Roman auxilliaries serving in the armies of the Pharoah would have had a more eastern type equipment, like scale armour instead of chainmail. Cheers.
@ Ca Putt - Thanks for the NICE! :laugh4:
@ Reno - You are right... the phalanx is definetly all but gone.
To adress the Roman question; we have proof of Romans serving the Ptolemaic pharaohs at the end. Some of them as deserters and freelancers, but the most important of all of those were the Gabiniani - They fought as regular Roman legionaires, so we depicted them as such. It would be a waste of unit slots creating multiple Roman troops for the Ptolemaics... Also these guys will be very expensive, and probably only recruitable in Alexandria under certain conditions :)
Actually, there seems to have been a mistake...the phalanx would not have been large, yet Machimoi are very cheap and designed to be recruited in large numbers....
Not only will they be expensive, they will actually be of superior quality than their counterparts, largely due to higher quality armour bestowed on them by the Ptolemaic government, and their being essentially evocati in terms of experience.
I'm amazed at the progress you guys are making. Ptolemaic fan-boys everywhere thank you!
Very nice preview, the time period definitely puts a whole new spin on the Ptoelmaic faction... I am amazed at the progress you guys are making with such a small team, your time and efforts are appreciated! :)
Oh and why was the descision made to change the Ptolies colour white?
Thanks for the words.
This is progressing well mainly i believe because we all have a serious passion for the world of Rome Total War.
About the color this is only a suposition from my part but i believe that white is the basic color used in Egypt i believe. Perhaps behind that the decisition to make the Ptolemais faction color white.
Perhaps some other preview will appear soon...
If you guys want any help on Numidia/Mauretania just send me a PM, I did a bunch of research for late era Numidia before when a previous late era mod was planned.
Actualy i do have a doubt.
In late Numidia the Garamantes and the Gaetuli provided or possessed somo cavalry unit that could perhaps be added to the roster unit of Numidia.
Also besides Hiempsal II, Juba I do you know anymore family members or sons that served Hiempsal II or Juba I? Or perhaps some notorious general.
Also about Mauretania they will not appear as a faction however they will be eleutheroi. I know that Bocchus I is the king. However do you have the names of the heirs of Bocchus I or brothers?
Answer 1: Yes, the Gaetulians provided infantry and cavalry for Jugurtha, later Numidian rulers, and even for Roman legions. The Gaetulians were renowned for their bravery and loyalty. I have done a concept for including them in EB2 but they will not be in the first release. If you ask nicely gg2 or I can send you the concept info ;). The Garamantes, meanwhile, had virtually nothing to do with Numidia or Mauritania and existed in their own little kingdom fighting only the occaisonal war, such as against Rome under Lucius Cornelius Balbus, until after the fall of the Roman empire when they expanded into a full fledged African empire that thrived until the invasion of Islam.
Answer 2: I have in my notes that Hiempsal II had a brother named Mastanabal, but I cannot find the source reference. If you can find the source that would be something. As for other Numidians, Hiarbas is a governor who started a revolt in 81 against Hiempsal II, which was ended by Pompey on Sulla's orders to restore the faithful Hiempsal. Dabar is a cousin of Hiempsal who featured in the Jugurthine war and was young then. he might still be alive. Sthembanus was the last son of Massinissa, born only a short time before he died during the third Punic war, meaning he could still be alive at 60, his father lived past 90. Jugurtha had a son named Oxynta. I think he died in the war, but I can't recall, something to look into.
Answer 3: Bocchus has three sons, Volux, Bocchus II and Bogud. Bocchus II was the last king because he killed Bogud, no one says what happens to Volux, and has no heirs. Bogud was married to Eunoë. Look through Caesar's 'African War', there are a ton of nobles and generals mentioned. I myself have only skimmed it, but it contains a lot of detail.
I am posting here to present some info on the Hashmonayim, (Hasmoneans), who 'd be the reason I am watching this mod.
Some sources.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasmonean
Their King and High Priest at the time of the beginning of the mod.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Jannaeus
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/luke/ueda-sar...nsOfLight.html
From there,
I would also advise buying,
Osprey Fortress 065 The Forts of Judaea 168 BC AD 73 From the Maccabees to The Fall of Masada.
The armies of everyone by that time were Romani like. I don't think there can be doubts about that. The very fact that Alexander Yonatan had to face civil war means that he was relying on mercs, like everyone else at that time. Mercs like the ones below.
http://www.ancientbattles.com/thureo...ureophoros.jpg
Their best troops that we know of because of Josephus are the "Ioudaioi Ekatontamachoi" or Hundred fighters, who were considered able to outfight a hundred opponents each.
http://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat/vie...p?f=19&t=28448
Other pictorial sources
[ex]
Egypt soldiers of that time,
http://s122.photobucket.com/albums/o...naSoldiers.jpg
-some pictures from here sent over to Novus Ordo Mundi dev forum-
(This post will be updated to include more information I have, which I can't access right now).
Historical helmets they 'd use.
A great depiction of a helmet worn at the time and how it was worn is the following,
https://i122.photobucket.com/albums/...ndin-nisa1.jpg
Notice the thunderbolts adorning the side guards of the helmet.
Ah, we have a use for our Spathaphoroi after all...
We're adding Euzonoi (helmet, thureos, shortsword and javelin), Thureophoroi (helmet, thureos, oh spear, and javelin)
Thureophoroi from EB are renamed to Longchephoroi, and we also have Machairophoroi (machaira/kopis, linothorax, thureos, javelin, helmet)
We will also keep the Ioudaioi Taxeis around, and have a unit we can use for the Ekatonamachoi - it was orignally going to be a heavy sword unit for the Syrian factions, but apparently it's only really historical for the Hasmoneans. It has chain mail, a Celtic sword, heavy javelins, helmet, and greaves, with a thureos for a shield.
That's good to know, thing is I have to insist on having a bronze face thureos as historically attested. I don't understand why it shouldn't since we know that the round aspis shield otherwise known as "hoplon" had bronze coating as well. It would make sense to have a bronze coated thureos for the elite troops of the Hasmonayim. Josephs' testimony makes this imperative.
This one,
https://i122.photobucket.com/albums/...dinBritain.jpg
Factions in the plural? Interesting, though I thought Tigranes' Hayastan was in control of Syria by the start date of this mod. Are you perhaps planning to represent a Seleucid rump state?Quote:
Originally Posted by gamegeek2
Tigran (usually mistakenly dubbed Tigranes as per the Greco-centrism ever-so-present in the field of history up through the 20th century) was throned ruler of Syria early during the 80s BC and had to conceded in the 60s BC. More specific dates should be easy to find for historians! hah!Quote:
Originally Posted by CaesarAugustus
What are the so-called 'Syrian factions' ?
Syrian is a broad reference to the Levant, in this context. Perhaps I should've said Levantine.
Kos, PM me and I'll give you the forum link...
Ah of course I forgot that little detail, I suppose for consistency's sake I should have said ''Tigran's Hayastan'' or ''Tigranes' Armenia''. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by vartan
Still, the only factions occupying the Levant at this time would be Hayastan, Nabatea and the Hasmoneans, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by gamegeek2
Thank's Tanit for your informations they will be kept in our mind specialy regarding the names of rulers and heirs and even generals.
About Gaetulim at the presente they are only representated as infantry however a cavalry unit will be good. I will talk with the people in our internal forums and see what can be done.
About the Garamantes they also possess cavalry?
The Ptollies had a pretty big stake in the Levant.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaesarAugustus
Except that by the time period during which the mod begins, the Ptolemaic Kingdom was pretty much a vassal of the Roman Empire.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamegeek2
EDIT: Or 'Ptolemaic Empire', if you could still call it that.
Keravnos, can you delete some PM's? Your box is full.
Will do.
Done.
Just a random word of congrats on the work done so far and for the rest of the developpment of the mod. Personally i'm very curious to see what do you have in your sleeve for SPQR, namely after the establishment of the Empire, around 20 BC. With new scripts and reforms for the romans, playing as SPQR in Novus Ordo Mundi may be an unique experience.
Cheers!
Please help my modding with a vote.
Thanks
Atra
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...-EB-time-frame
Yes, check the preview 'Native Peoples of North Africa' for EB2. The Garamantines used infantry, cavalry, chariots and archers. There is a lot of info in the unit descriptions. The archers used a simple bow, no recurve to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lionheart
A little eyecandy for the recent Preview
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1177/...63966c8638.jpg
~Jirisys (Userbar!)
So guys, what's our next preview?
soon to be determinedQuote:
Originally Posted by LDC
Actually it's determined... But i won't reveal it yet... It's a surprise... If people will ask nicely then they may see it soon... If not... Wel... :D
Please?
Aren't you part of the history team? haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tanit
Well Anubis, perhaps you have to make the preview by your own before it will be revealed out... jeng jeng jengggggg!Quote:
Originally Posted by anubis88
Nah, busy with EB2, I just offered some advice on the Numidians. Other than a specialty in North West Africa, I'm only as qualified as any other historian on other areas.Quote:
Originally Posted by vartan
Well, Tanit, if you ever feel like it to help us out in other departments, you would be more then welcome.
All I can say thus far about the preview is that it's going to be waaaaaaay better then the Ptolemaic one... Even the faction is much stronger at this point in time :clown:
A new unit was been made. A small candy for all of you before the release of a new faction.
So what unit do you believe this is?
http://i29.servimg.com/u/f29/15/49/53/87/gaetul10.jpg
Certainly light cavalry. Looks like he only has a lance. Maybe he has a sword, too? Maybe missiles (javelins) instead? And is he from Africa?
he must be light cavalry. no saddle=numidianQuote:
Originally Posted by Lionheart
looking from previous post, Gaetuli light cavalry?
Just send me a PM if you ever want me to look into anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by anubis88
As for the new unit image, hmm, maybe a Nabataean/Arabian? Or a Iudaean.
Parashim Gaetulim.
ok, I guessed before I looked at the image name, yeah, definitely gaetulian, cool.
So... about that preview...
This forum should really implement Reddit's thumbs up or down feature. CaesarAugustus: Thumbs up.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaesarAugustus
go on facebook and click on "like this post"
Very soon my friend. RL things got in a way, but since i know you guys are waiting on it i'll try to finish it today :)Quote:
Originally Posted by CaesarAugustus
No pressure, I was just worried that the thread for my favourite sub-mod seems too quiet. :) but I understand that sadly RL tends to get in the way of the good things in life.Quote:
Originally Posted by anubis88
It may take a day or two unfortunatly... But here's a sneak peak :clown:
This is a new unit for the preview... Can you guess what it is?
https://oi51.tinypic.com/14ac5ex.jpg
Don't worry my friend. There are plenty of good things in "real" life! Rest assured!Quote:
Originally Posted by CaesarAugustus
Pontus bodyguard cavalryQuote:
Originally Posted by anubis88
^^I think so too, either the bodyguard unit or some Pontic kataphract.
Close... I can tell you that the Pontic Bodyguards look even better then this unit. They are really a masterpiece... These guys are some sort of Pontic Cata's... But they will be recruitable for Parthia and Armenia as well... Does this new info help?
Cappadocian Noble Cavalry?
And we have a winner!
Nice unit guys, but right now I hate every catapracth on earth. I am having a hard time stooping their devestating charages against my legions. I am locked in a power strrugle with the Pahlava.
Cheers
Then I guess you'll really dislike the Pahlava preview :clown:
so next preview is Pahlava? Hurray!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by anubis88
Nah, it's Pontos... That's why I showed a unit nearby Pontos :)
...wait for it...wait for it...Quote:
Originally Posted by plutoboyz
...owned! mawahahah Why did you make it seem like Pahlava was gonna be next?! Ok, you didn't, but when I read, I hoped!Quote:
Originally Posted by anubis88
Well we will see. If the unis are as awsome as the ones already shown you are forgiven for the hard times.Quote:
Originally Posted by anubis88
Cheers
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reno Melitensis
I express my sincerest apologies as I laugh in your face.
I was recently at a conference regarding wronging and its the first thing that came to mind. As the theory stands, we aren't in any special standing; that is, we don't have any position or any qualification to forgive the developers. As I gather it, the developers don't owe it to us not to wrong us by not providing quicker and more frequent previews. In fact, they aren't wronging us by providing less frequent previews. As I sit here writing this text, a man in the row of computers in front of me (here at the university's primary library) is typing quickly left and right and never staying at one website for longer than 10 seconds. Literally. He is going from YouTube video to YouTube video to YouTube search to video to search...you get the point. He clicks on various points in the video, sees individual frames for no longer than half a second, and moves on. It is so unbelievably hilarious that I wish I had it on film. Anyway, nothing of seriousness. Good luck to the devs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reno Melitensis
P.S. GG2 I forget what you wanted me to do cause I don't really keep in mind anything regarding EB:NOM any more. Like, maybe I could translate some things, think of new units (I think that's what you wanted), or come up with new descriptions for buildings or units. Dude...just use generic descriptions or maintain original EB descriptions. Unless the person's interested in you-know-which faction, its buildings and its units (and its history, needless to say), then the person will not likely care or even read at all these descriptions. They will care about the stats, etc. Ya follow ?
This. Apologies are merely expressions of remorse and hence useless. It is only forgiveness by the wronged (none in this case) that allows for closure and renewed relations. Hell, Yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamegeek2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZsbnG5IiGY
Previewing the EB:NOM intro music (courtesy of GRV Music) and a few unnamed units.
It may be the music from the Starcraft 2 preview, but I like it in its new setting.
The music is from a group called GRV Music. The selection is a clip from the piece "Grand Battle"Quote:
Originally Posted by Tanit
Gamegeek2 that music is awesome, its electrifiying, and all those Cathapracts. For Jupiter Maximus.
Cheers.
That row of cataphracts was... beautiful.
Yep. We are trying to make videos and songs for introductions. I believe you will like this very much.
GG2 that was excellent you rule like i imaginated that in my head. Now i'm imagining the battles and songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZsbnG5IiGY
Here's the video link, for this page.
I finally got some time, so the preview is really really near... It's almost at a stage where I can start porting in on the forums...
I apologize for putting it off for so long, but i think you will be deligthed once you see it... Perhaps a mini-sneak peak is in order, since you will see this unit in the preview anyways :D
Try to guess which one it is, and whether it's badass or not :clown:
http://i54.tinypic.com/504ju9.jpg
Pahlavan Cataphract Horse Archers of some sort I would say
I'm going to be a **** of a forum member and say please do not use language such as ***-*** to describe the weather (although, admittedly, it was quite odd of you [Anubis] to describe the weather in such a fashion).
Great picture by the way. Who does it depict?
HAHAHA... EPIC FAIL... I agree... I didn't even see it till now :) But i won't tell you which unit this is... yet... All i can tell you is that it will be employed by Mithridates Eupator Dionisyos...Quote:
Originally Posted by vartan
Roxolana Uaezdaettae.
Βασίλειον του Πόντου - The kingdom of Pontus
The great Kingdom of Pontus has lost much it's territories after the first Mithridatic war, but your kingdom will still be one of the richest and most prosperous in the game. You'll have a great hold almost around the entire black sea and a good portion of Asia Minor.
Even tough the first war with Rome would suggest Rome was far superior, the second war showed that with good commanders at the helm, Pontos can keep the Romans at bay. Your goals should be to try and secure the lands in Asia Minor. Once that is done, you may start thinking about attacking the Romans in their heartland, like the king tried a few year ago. Of course you may also expand in other directions, but that wouldn't be as wise, since the steppes aren't nearly as rich as the Roman provinces, and attacking your friend, the great king of kings, would probably be a mistake as well. Of course attacking the Romans with them ready, and you unprepared, would be a fools erand. You should try to forge an alliance with the various parties at war with Rome, especially the formidable Roman rebel Quintus Sertorius in Hispania.
Who knows, you might even get a gift from him or two.
The upsides of playing a faction as Pontus are clear; you will probably have the most diverse army in the game, capable to fight wars with multiple enemies. From local light infatry, to greek and Roman influenced units, from the warriors of the steppes to the peoples of the sea, from chariots to local nobles, a Pontic king will be able to summon armies as specific as required for various tasks. Your starting position is very strong, yet it could prove vulnerable, since the holdings of the King are divided by the great Pontus Euxinos, a great sea, which has almost became a Pontic lake.
The downsides are pretty obvious as well. While diverse armies are great on one hand, they can prove to be of very low morale on the other, since there isn't really a true sense of unity amongst the warriors of the Pontic king.
The key will be to hold your starting territories intact, and to try to avoid a full scale with Rome unless either the King becomes stronger the before, or civil turmoil strikes in the Urbs.
Without a shadow of a doubt, Pontos will be one of the most interesting factions in EB NOM.
The Pontic Army
Like it was said before, the Pontic army will probably be the most diverse in game. You should try to use all the various fighting stiles at your disposal, and put together the best of all. The people willing to fight for you cannot be numbered; such is the sheer size of Mithridateses domain. Scythians, Sarmatians, Colchians, Thracians, Cappadocians, Galatians, Greeks are just a small part of the possibilites laying ahead of you.
Further description of these units can be found on www.europabarbarorum.org
https://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...pantodapoi.gif Pandas - low tier hellenistic infantry - once a common sight in battles, their role has diminished, but they can still prove usefull from time to time.
https://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...akontistai.gif Basic hellenistic skirmishers; they should be used... Well... For skirmishing and not much alse.
https://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...artishpada.gif Basic eastern skirmishers; they should be used... Well... For skirmishing and not much alse.
https://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...hendenotai.gif The basic slingers of the Pontic army.
https://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...bar_fradak.gif Eastern type of slinger. A solid ranged unit.
https://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...on_toxotai.gif Basic archers.
https://europabarbarorum.com/i/units..._peltastai.gif Pretty decent medium infantry; usefull for skirmishing and melee.
https://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...nchophoroi.gif Solid all round cavalry, available in most parts of your kingdom
https://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...azali_merc.gif Karian warriors; nice medium unit, tough very vulnerable to ranged troops.
https://europabarbarorum.com/i/units..._lavotuxri.gif The nobility of the Galatians; a truly awesome cavalry unit.
https://europabarbarorum.com/i/units..._kluddolon.gif Young Galatians trying to prove their worth in their society.
https://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...uarothoroi.gif Very strong, almost elite Galatian unit, well able to preform most tasks on the battlefield.
https://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...tindanotae.gif Crazy drugged naked warriors... No further explanation required
https://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...an_hillmen.gif Nice medium unit, very valuable against armoured troops.
https://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...a_zanteush.gif Nice medium unit, very effective against armoured opposition
https://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...ot_archers.gif A much improved archer unit over the regular toxotai.
https://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...i_pontikoi.gif light unit with a large shield and very long and pointy spears.
https://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...oi_toxotai.gif One of the best archers in the game. Once they run out of arrows, they can still be used as solid medium infantry. A very rare combo in the ancient world.
https://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...dirag_baex.gif Horse archers with spears. A most powerfull combination
https://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...ian_nobles.gif One of the great units available to the Pontic king. Very well armoured, and can deliver a devastating charge.
https://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...thorakitai.gif A variation of a unit intended to fight in the Roman manner, but with a lot of hellenistic influences as well.
https://europabarbarorum.com/i/units...alkaspidai.gif The last remaining unit of an era when the phalanx was the most used type of soldier around the known world.
https://i841.photobucket.com/albums/...roi_pontos.jpg The lighter version of the Thureophoroi is one of the most common units used in the late hellenistic armies. They can prove more then capable of fighting off other light infantry and cavalry, but will suffer once the opposition becomes armoured.
https://i841.photobucket.com/albums/...roi_Pontos.jpg The Machairaphoroi are a very simmilar unit to the Thureophoroi, yet they use swords instead of spears. That gives them an advantage against other infantry, but puts them in a slightly worse position against cavalry. Overall a very usefull unit for it's price.
https://i841.photobucket.com/albums/...tarantinoi.jpg the Tarantinoi have been used around the mediterranean extensively for the last 200 years. They are an excellent light cavalry, but that's all they are. Light cavalry.
https://i841.photobucket.com/albums/...medium_cav.jpg Basically a more armoured version of the Tarantinoi... Not as fast, but stronger in melee then their cousins.
http://europabarbarorum.heimstatt.ne...ythed_INFO.jpg The chariots are still to be found in the Pontic army, even tough they performed poorly against Romans in their preview incounters. They are the reason why Mithridates became strong in the first place, since their charge broke the army of the Bythinian king in the First Mithridatic war.
https://i841.photobucket.com/albums/...ata_Pontos.jpg The Cappadocians have been employed by the Kings of Pontus for a long time, and these Cappadocian Nobles are the elite of the elite from that region. Armoured from head to toe, both horse and man, they are truly awesome sight on the battlefield. We have reports of Romans not attacking Pontic armies in the third Mitrhidatic war once they knew they had Cappadocians at their side.
https://i841.photobucket.com/albums/...n_infantry.jpg These warrior hail from the other side of the Pontus Euxinus. Well armoured and disciplined, they can be an excellent medium infantry. They should be used extensively in your northern front.
https://i841.photobucket.com/albums/...roi_bareas.jpg A heavier version of the Thureophoroi mentioned before, the Thureophoroi Bareis are strong medium infantry, used best as anti-cavalry units.
https://i841.photobucket.com/albums/..._swordsman.jpg The Cholchians were, as described by Appian, the most warlike people in the armies of Mithridates. They are very well armoured, but their strenght comes from their warlike traditions and great morale. Put these men where the battle will be thickest, and you will not be sorry. While they may not be the Elite of the Elite, they wil still prove themselves in every battle you will make them fight.
https://i841.photobucket.com/albums/...athaphoroi.jpg The Spathaphoroi are another version of "immitation legionaries". Fusing what's best from the Galatians, Greeks and Romans, these men can fight against almost all opponents. They should be used whenever it's possible. However, they will not come cheap, so be ready to dig in your pockets to recruit them.
https://i841.photobucket.com/albums/...hetairoi-1.jpg It all comes down to these guys. The are the personal guard of the Pontic Royal family. These men are the best of the best of what can be found in the Kingdom of Pontus. Armoud from head to toe, they are probably the best all round Heavy cavalry in the diadochi states since the Hetairoi of Alexander himself. They were a source of worry for the Romans in their wars with Mithridates, and were fiercly loyal to the king. We have at least 2 reports of these man saving Mithridates from certain death, and of them turning the tide of the battle in the favour of the Pontic king.
I hope you liked the preview. Of course the descripitons are not final, but since i don't have much time right now, i thought it would be better to show you what we have done so far then spend more days to write the descriptions.
A special thank you goes to FinnMacCumhail and LDC who made the new units, and of course to the rest of the EB NOM team for working on the mod.
Very interesting rooster, and cool units too. Cheers.